BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - - - - - - Part 32

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Not better than discussions about Batfleck's chin fat tho. :o

Of course it's not. Especially since fat chin discussions usually lead into pizza discussions. And everybody likes pizza discussions. :o
 
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Of course it's not. Especially since fat chin discussions usually lead into pizza discussions. And everybody likes pizza discussions. :o

When do you imagine the marketing campaign will start to pick up? We're almost four months away.
 

:funny: Rare situation when I actually like a commercial.

When do you imagine the marketing campaign will start to pick up? We're almost four months away.

I haven't got the slightest idea. I assume they'll start hitting hard either in December or early to mid January. February's too late, November might be too soon. At least that's mine conclusion.
 
I haven't got the slightest idea. I assume they'll start hitting hard either in December or early to mid January. February's too late, November might be too soon. At least that's mine conclusion.

December wouldn't be too bad. I suppose I could manage to survive until then. Maybe.
 
December wouldn't be too bad. I suppose I could manage to survive until then. Maybe.

:hehe: Hold on. It's not that far away.

And, with some luck, we might get some set photos from "Wonder Woman" solo by the end of this month.
 
:hehe: Hold on. It's not that far away.

And, with some luck, we might get some set photos from "Wonder Woman" solo by the end of this month.

True. I've heard very good things about Netflix's Jessica Jones as well. Perhaps that will sustain me for the time being.

If interested (and especially if Daredevil was to your liking), here's a spoiler-free review of JJ, courtesy of RadioTimes' Jonathan Holmes.

"There’s always a detective, there’s always a dangerous man in an impeccable suit, there’s always untrustworthy clients and lucky left hooks, and there’s always a dame, right at the centre of it all. Cherchez la femme fatale, as fancy waiters say.

(Not that you’d call her that. Not unless you want to eat your meals from a sippy cup.)

Marvel’s Jessica Jones begins as a love letter to film noir that verges on pastiche. The private eye swigs bourbon in her grubby office, talks wise, cases joints. Saxophones wail, people die and the city shrugs its shoulders to shake off the rain. You expect Humphrey Bogart to wander in, except Bogey never looked so swell in jeans.

This is the least superheroic (Marvellous?) of Marvel’s output – despite its grim grittiness, Daredevil spent a lot of time zooming into Matt Murdock’s supernostrils and fighting ninjas.

Jones has perfunctory superpowers, but they’re treated in a matter of fact way, a tool of the trade, like the long zoom lens she uses to snap pictures of cheating husbands. Jessica is decidedly not a superhero. Unlike the Hulk, the damage at the heart of the character isn’t her powers, but her past.

(Lock the door twice, say a dozen Hail Marys and sleep with a gun under your pillow, it doesn’t matter. Your past is always waiting.)

Krysten Ritter is superb as an indestructible woman who’s broken inside, hiding from her history. (None of which we’ll spoil here.) Funny, foulmouthed, brittle and ballsy, Jones feels like the role the Breaking Bad actress has been waiting for. The superstrength is almost a distraction; she’s at her best simply playing a shopworn gumshoe in the big city.

Jessica Jones comes close to exposing the limits of Marvels ‘every genre… and superheroes’ method by being too good at the genre part. Often you’ll wish there were no superpowers at all.

But then there’s Kilgrave.

David Tennant plays one of the most loathsome villains of recent years. Like Vincent D’Onofrio in Daredevil, Kilgrave gets a long build-up, but from his first rumblings he is all you can think about. Appropriate, given his ability is to control people’s minds.

Tennant allows himself to be utterly vile. Adopting that familiar posh English accent, he takes glee in stamping all over memories of Doctor Who. You don’t love to hate him, you simply hate him. He is every abusive spouse and controlling boyfriend you’ve ever had, the ones who made you not yourself, the ones you can’t escape.

It’s for this reason that Jessica Jones is ultimately a more successful merging of genres than most of the Marvel films. Daredevil’s adult tone sat uneasily with its four colour origins – brutal violence followed by lighthearted banter in the office. Jessica Jones has fun smashing the clichés of comic books and film noir into each other, but more than that it finds their shared heart. These are superpowers as metaphor, and noir is a form of modern legend.

Noir is dark – hell, it’s in the name – but for all the unhappy endings, the genre is compassionate at heart. No, wait, that's going too far; it understands why we can’t help being bad.

The scummy people who live in its midnight bars and alleyways are trapped by their needs; whether that’s the greed of money or lust, or the cynical detective who knows better than to get involved, but can’t help doing the right thing. Just like superhero comics, the best noir runs on hope, the drive to be better – it’s just that hope can be a cruel ***** sometimes, and we’re not always good enough.

That’s why this harrowing series is both more accessible for non-superhero fans and can exist in the same world as Thor and that purple android. For some people, being a hero means flying through the clouds. For others, it's pulling yourself out of the gutter, spitting the blood down the drain, and taking the next punch."
 
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True. I've heard very good things about Netflix's Jessica Jones as well. Perhaps that will sustain me for the time being.

If interested (and especially if Daredevil was to your liking), here's a spoiler-free review of JJ, courtesy of RadioTimes' Jonathan Holmes.

Hmm... thanks for sharing. :up:

I did like "Daredevil" and I'll probably give it a try, though I didn't like what I saw in the trailer. It's indeed noticeable that they tried to catch Daredevil's vibe, but it kinda felt a bit forced to me and the show also reminded me of those late 90's early 2000's crappy comic book TV series like "Witchblade" and such, for some reason. I know... I can't put my finger on it, but that's the impression I got.

It seems that they've been going for noirish vibe more heavily than I initially thought, though... and I do like noir genre a lot, so for that reason alone, I'll give it a try at some point.
 
This is Snyder that we are talking about! Ya'll think he really didn't try the white lenses? I betcha anything he did, but it just didn't work for him. I trust him on that.
 
This is Snyder that we are talking about! Ya'll think he really didn't try the white lenses? I betcha anything he did, but it just didn't work for him. I trust him on that.

From the looks of it (meaning, concept art), it would seem that they tried to go for white contacts and decided not to (thankfully). It's quite possible that they didn't try lenses with the regular cowl.
 
I'm not convinced you could get the animated effect with the lenses and it not look cartoonish. Batman has to have angular, pointy sort of eyes for it to work... not round ones like Deadpool. And they've got to be expressive and squint and stuff. I'm just not sure how it would work. I'm not against it, I don't even really care much... I just don't see how it would work.

As long as we don't have those weird light bulb eyes from TDK though I'm good.
 
Well that's the thing, I don't think they should be expressive. Ones on mech-suit aren't and I personally don't see anything being lost because of it.
 
I'd prefer them to be expressive. They are in the comics and in animation.

The mech ones aren't which is okay for that one scene, but I wouldn't want him walking around like that all the time.
 
I'd prefer them to be expressive. They are in the comics and in animation.

The mech ones aren't which is okay for that one scene, but I wouldn't want him walking around like that all the time.

That is true. It's just that it would most probably look cartoony, as you said. It works for Deadpool, because he is supposed to be a silly character, but probably wouldn't for Batman.

Know what? I can't entirely form an opinion regarding the white eyes on mech-suit and whether I'd like something like that for entire time or not. I think we'll return to this conversation after we see more scenes. Or entire film. :cwink:
 
If there's going to be a war it will be about the rights for OMAC theory.

Seriously though, I don't think this is anything worthy of heated argument.

Some people don't like the look - I am completely fine with that. Some people think it is too limiting to actor's performance or is detaching the audience - I understand where they're coming from, but I don't find that to be much of a problem. And some people think it wouldn't work in live action as it would look silly - I disagree and am pretty sure that if they were to see a good execution of the look, most of them would change their minds.

In third case, I just like to point out the fact that we never really got a good execution of white lenses in the regular cowl so that it shouldn't be dismissed so easily. I might be wrong and narrow, angular snake-slit look might indeed end up looking bad, but we can't know for sure until we get to see it, that's all I'm saying.
Which is the exact same argument a lot of folks were making about the un-armorish looking Grey/black color combo.
 
Which is the exact same argument a lot of folks were making about the un-armorish looking Grey/black color combo.

Really? Was it a majority or what? Grey/black has always been a bat fans big wet dream for yrs or maybe just mine. Heh.
 
I think the more live-action-y a depiction of Batman the more the tendency to go with visible eyes.

In the Arkham video game series they've gone with the visible eye look for the most part

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White eyes look great in comic art but would probably at most look okay in live action.
 
That is true. It's just that it would most probably look cartoony, as you said. It works for Deadpool, because he is supposed to be a silly character, but probably wouldn't for Batman.

Know what? I can't entirely form an opinion regarding the white eyes on mech-suit and whether I'd like something like that for entire time or not. I think we'll return to this conversation after we see more scenes. Or entire film. :cwink:

Also, Deadpool has his entire face covered up. You don't need to see his mouth moving etc.
 
Which is the exact same argument a lot of folks were making about the un-armorish looking Grey/black color combo.

Yup.

I guess this is the new "grey suit" argument. Until they actually see it, people will continue to claim that it wouldn't work in live action.


Also, Deadpool has his entire face covered up. You don't need to see his mouth moving etc.

True.

This is 2015. If we can make a talking raccoon look real, Batman's eyes should be a piece of cake.

Could be. I personally wouldn't go for animated white eyes either way though.
 
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