BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - - - - - - - Part 33

[The Shield]

Round 1 goes to BatFleck. Next up is Arkham City Batman.

The Fleck look takes this one for me too.

 

[The Shield]

Fanboys take a dump on the previous incarnation as their way of showing excitement over the current one.

Nolan fans did this to Burton when Batman Begins first came out, and it'll probably happen to Batfleck when the next Batman comes around.

I still love Burtman over Nolan. Just my preference. No dis.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Fanboys take a dump on the previous incarnation as their way of showing excitement over the current one.

Nolan fans did this to Burton/Keaton when Batman Begins first came out, and it'll probably happen to Batfleck when the next Batman comes around.

Disagree. 90% of the crap talking Begins fans did was against the Schumacher films and they arguably deserved it especially the last film.

The Nolan films however were actually good and played a role really to get to the place where we are now with the DCCU.

I agree with your first part though.

I'm just waiting for people to start trashing Ledger and playing up Leto before I'm probably out of here.

 

[Travesty]

Disagree. 90% of the crap talking Begins fans did was against the Schumacher films and they arguably deserved it especially the last film.

The Nolan films however were actually good and played a role really to get to the place where we are now with the DCCU.

I agree with your first part though.

I'm just waiting for people to start trashing Ledger and playing up Leto before I'm probably out of here.

Dude, I was there for the lead up and during the premiere of BB, and there was a LOT of **** talk towards the Burton movies.

 

[The Batman]

Yup. I remember those Nolanite/Burtonite wars vividly.

 

[Travesty]

Yup. I remember those Nolanite/Burtonite wars vividly.

They were vicious. It's actually a lot more calm this go around.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

It doesn't really seem like people are bashing the nolan movie moreso than just criticizing the costume and voice, which people had always done.

 

[I Am The Knight]

It doesn't really seem like people are bashing the nolan movie moreso than just criticizing the costume and voice, which people had always done.

Exactly.

 

[BattleAngel]

King23DC

It's not retroactive nothing, I've always been somewhat disappointed with Bale's Batman, especially since I liked the casting choice quite much and that he is known for playing dark and intense characters well, so I was hoping that he'll bring more of that into the character. Unfortunately, he didn't. And I find that particular growl to be limiting his performance on more than one occasion. Anyway, that's my impression, and no one was able to change it since "The Dark Knight", so we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Again, I love those films, but I have always found Bale's Batman to be lacking in few departments.

Also agreed. I didn't and don't hate the movies, but the problems I had then are the ones I had now. Bruce Wayne kills at least a dozen people in the first picture alone, then spends the rest of the trilogy dwelling on the 'one rule,' only to kill Thalia with guns. The dialogue for every character is terrible, and the Rachel character is the very definition of bland. The continuity is hilariously bad. The costumes are awful, and Bane is a total joke. Robin John Blake? Jesus. Nolan lets the hype go to his head. The music, on the whole, defines everything that is wrong with modern scores. On the plus side, Heath Ledger and Michael Caine are genuinely brilliant and reinvent their roles, the Tumbler is awesome, Cillian Murphy is fun in all three movies, and Christian Bale totally commits, even though his character is totally two dimensional.

None of this has anything to do with my expectations for BvS, although on that score, the latest trailer has me scared s***less that it's going to suck hard despite being hyped for it for the last two years. I think Affleck could kill it in his solo Batman but I have a feeling BvS is going to be completely graceless. I really hope I'm wrong. The trailer sucked on the computer, but watching it before TFA... the whole audience laughed, and not in a good way. The music is an absolute embarrassment and I don't think they felt that way.

 

[BattleAngel]

The Fleck look takes this one for me too.

No doubt Fleck wins that particular shoot out, but if we're getting the natural eye look, I really wish they made the mask hew closer to his eyes instead of the eye makeup (which for my sanity, I have to imagine is the kind of electrically charged paint that a previous poster linked to) - I just can't stand that Raccoon eye aesthetic. The Arkham shot on the right is a good example of how a closer fitting mask makes the uncovered eyes just as unnerving as my well-documented preference

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Ehh its probably really hard to get the mask like that. Its just unrealistic for a real life mask.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

None of this has anything to do with my expectations for BvS, although on that score, the latest trailer has me scared s***less that it's going to suck hard despite being hyped for it for the last two years.

The generic music used for that trailer is not from the score.

I think Affleck could kill it in his solo Batman but I have a feeling BvS is going to be completely graceless. I really hope I'm wrong. The trailer sucked on the computer, but watching it before TFA... the whole audience laughed, and not in a good way. The music is an absolute embarrassment and I don't think they felt that way.

I don't believe you.

Ehh its probably really hard to get the mask like that. Its just unrealistic for a real life mask.

Not to mention unnecessary. It looks astounding how it is! I'd also like to point out that this already is the closest they've gotten the cowl to the actor's eyes in any iteration.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Yeah having the mask right on the eyelids is like the unrealistic deadpool style white eyes, its just not necessary.

I got the bvs trailer in front of star wars and it just got a couple woahs and some murmering, only laugh was at the "thought she was with you?" line.

 

[craigaat]

The people complaining about the eye make up need to have a look at themselves because it's just not worth commenting on. You can't suspend your disbelief for the duration of a movie?

"thought she was with you" is clearly intended to get a chuckle out of the audience. Also not worth complaining about.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

Yeah having the mask right on the eyelids is like the unrealistic deadpool style white eyes, its just not necessary.

I got the bvs trailer in front of star wars and it just got a couple woahs and some murmering, only laugh was at the "thought she was with you?" line.

That's pretty much the reaction I would expect.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

The people complaining about the eye make up need to have a look at themselves because it's just not worth commenting on. You can't suspend your disbelief for the duration of a movie?

"thought she was with you" is clearly intended to get a chuckle out of the audience. Also not worth complaining about.

Yeah i wasnt complaining. Just making a general statement. Of course its to get laughs.

 

[The Shape]

It doesn't really seem like people are bashing the nolan movie moreso than just criticizing the costume and voice, which people had always done.

Yeah, pretty much.

I've never been ashamed to say that I like the TDK/R Batsuit, but it's also pretty fair to say that both the suit and voice have always been points of contention among fans. It's not something new that's come about all of a sudden since Batfleck came on the scene.

 

[Tvar10]

Does anyone else but me with there was some sort of bat logo on the mech suit? I feel like its missing something

 

[Gamma Goliath]

The bat logo isn't on the mech suit DKR, Snyder/Wilkinson almost Directly lifted it from comics. that means no bat logo, and the clipped ears. The childrens toys have the logo on them i guess.

 

[Guts]

In regards to the costume? Yes his is more comic accurate but that doesn't make it better. Bale was still identifiable Batman.

And imo as it was show cased on film, even in harsh lighting is a better suit. And looked more believable as actual paramilitary or swat like real world armor. Modern knight like ... yet still retained the exact essence of Batman. He also looked quite intimidating.


The latter requires more atmospheric lighting for suspension of disbelief. Bale's given the use of more rigid and plated materials on the armor and cowl ... looks like actual armor.

Nolan went for more plausible.
Snyder went for more mythological.

Nolan's Batman looks like a practical warrior. Snyder's looks like an organic, living gargoyle ... with a textured suit that resembles Kevlar with armor underneath. But it definitely needs to be accentuated by atmospheric lighting or setting compared to Nolan's take.

Since when has batman ever tried the swat or paramilitary look in the comics? "Criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot so I better make them think I work for the military."

 

[morningmimosa]

Baleman's more rigid armor that could be penetrated by dog teeth and knifes.

 

[NateHevens]

Hot Toys figures juxtaposed

You know, this really puts the TDK suit in context... and I loved the TDK/R suit, but here... yeah... the Batfleck cowl alone looks much better.

At least in the Hot Toys scult, Bale's cowl looks... off. Maybe it's the duck lips, but also... is it just me, or does the Bale sculpt look... crosseyed?

 

[Astro13Zombie]

You know, this really puts the TDK suit in context... and I loved the TDK/R suit, but here... yeah... the Batfleck cowl alone looks much better.

At least in the Hot Toys scult, Bale's cowl looks... off. Maybe it's the duck lips, but also... is it just me, or does the Bale sculpt look... crosseyed?

It has moveable eyes.
They sometimes end up looking like that.

 

[NateHevens]

It has moveable eyes.
They sometimes end up looking like that.

Oh I didn't know that! I have so many Hot Toys figures in a wishlist, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to afford them...

Otherwise I would have bought all the Batmen Hot Toys has put out...

 

[Black Narcissus]

You know, this really puts the TDK suit in context... and I loved the TDK/R suit, but here... yeah... the Batfleck cowl alone looks much better.

At least in the Hot Toys scult, Bale's cowl looks... off. Maybe it's the duck lips, but also... is it just me, or does the Bale sculpt look... crosseyed?

Careful, you will be labeled a Nolan hater now.

lol