BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - - - - - - - - Part 34

[Lencho01]

Does that muscle suit put the bed that this "fabric" suit is somehow less restrictive than the rubber ones? I never thought the begins or TDK suits were hampering Bale's movement, just that Nolan wasn't great at filming fight scenes.

This suit is a WHOLE lot of rubber. It's almost the exact same construction as the suits from 1989-2005, just with an extra layer of fabric on top. It's pretty much the 89 suit with a fabric skin.

The Schumacher films showed Batman and Robin fighting in a pretty flashy style to fit with their films.

 

[Tvar10]

Haha, I doubt they'd be able to get away with that.

There is a guy who makes a fairly good facsimile of the fabric suit itself - obviously you'd need a muscle suit underneath it (which can be bought also). But it's the closest I've seen to the real thing so far.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/270194201/batman-dawn-of-justice-bat-suit?ref=shop_home_active_1

Awesome. I see they sell a leather version of the suit at udreplicas.com. Looks pretty awesome. But pricey

 

[Saint]

Does that muscle suit put the bed that this "fabric" suit is somehow less restrictive than the rubber ones? I never thought the begins or TDK suits were hampering Bale's movement, just that Nolan wasn't great at filming fight scenes.

This suit is a WHOLE lot of rubber. It's almost the exact same construction as the suits from 1989-2005, just with an extra layer of fabric on top. It's pretty much the 89 suit with a fabric skin.

Yep. This suit definitely looks the part, but honestly I thought we had left over the top muscle suits behind before MOS came along. I would prefer something else.

The leaner sculpt is definitely more my speed, though it would still be the same construction.

 

[Boom]

Leaner would be good. No argument there.

 

[SheldonLevene]

I guess my question is, if the sculpt is based off a real, living breathing person that is in peak physical condition - how is that over the top for Batman?

 

[Lencho01]

I guess my question is, if the sculpt is based off a real, living breathing person that is in peak physical condition - how is that over the top for Batman?

Doesn't sound too hard. Make whatever body they want on the outside and make sure the actor can fit into it on the inside. Just like what they did with Jor-El and Zod to give them bodies they didn't have.

Dude who claims to be the basis of the Batsuit...

Meet The Man Who Played Ben Affleck's Batman Body

 

[hafizbat]

I definitely think they should tone it down if there are sequels.

As much as I love this batsuit, it is kinda ridiculous how much of a body sculpt it looks like. Doesn't really seem like a Batman thing to do, making his suit look so sculpted. Not to mention it's nowhere near Affleck's real physique.

It's like Snyder looked at comic books and saw the "body paint" look of the characters, and tried to directly transfer that on the screen without thinking about how well it translates.

To me, proportions are more important than muscle definition when it comes to superhero suits. It's why Cap, Daredevil, and Deadpool look very aesthetic without much muscle definition, if any. Batfleck has all the muscles and striations, but is lacking in the proportions aspect.

It's like Snyder took the wrong thing from comic pages.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I strongly disagree. I love that his suit is so big and sculpted. It gives the illusion that he superhuman imo.

 

[Lencho01]

I definitely think they should tone it down if there are sequels.

As much as I love this batsuit, it is kinda ridiculous how much of a body sculpt it looks like. Doesn't really seem like a Batman thing to do, making his suit look so sculpted. Not to mention it's nowhere near Affleck's real physique.

It's like Snyder looked at comic books and saw the "body paint" look of the characters, and tried to directly transfer that on the screen without thinking about how well it translates.

To me, proportions are more important than muscle definition when it comes to superhero suits. It's why Cap, Daredevil, and Deadpool look very aesthetic without much muscle definition, if any. Batfleck has all the muscles and striations, but is lacking in the proportions aspect.

It's like Snyder took the wrong thing from comic pages.

It's why I was saying months ago, Snyder suits just remind me of Schumacher ones, just a slightly different approach.

 

[The Shape]

I guess my question is, if the sculpt is based off a real, living breathing person that is in peak physical condition - how is that over the top for Batman?

It's not. Bruce Wayne himself was shown to be pretty big and ripped in BVS -- not at all ridiculously far off from the size and sculpt of the Batsuit itself. It's not as if we're talking about a guy with the physique of Jim Parsons inside a hulking Batsuit.

Plus, in the film itself, the Batsuit never really looked overly huge, fat, or puffy. The mass and sculpt of the suit is more jarring when seen in various still photos and promo images (some of which are truly unflattering), which most of us pored over and studied for years before the film came out.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

If the Batman incarnation was as faithful as its suit, I wouldn't have a problem.

 

[lujho]

Yep. This suit definitely looks the part, but honestly I thought we had left over the top muscle suits behind before MOS came along. I would prefer something else.

The leaner sculpt is definitely more my speed, though it would still be the same construction.

The fabric skin of the suit is presumably glued into the crevices between the muscles, showing all that definition. For a sleeker look, they could just not do that (combines with a slimmer sculpt)

 

[lujho]

It's like Snyder looked at comic books and saw the "body paint" look of the characters, and tried to directly transfer that on the screen without thinking about how well it translates.

True, but honestly to me, it translates a whole lot better than I would have expected. I NEVER wanted the "bodypaint" or "naked man" look, but this suit manages to pull it off without it looking completely silly - I guess it's the fabric texture and creases that makes it work. Without those, it would just look like 89/Forever/& Robin.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I definitely think they should tone it down if there are sequels.

As much as I love this batsuit, it is kinda ridiculous how much of a body sculpt it looks like. Doesn't really seem like a Batman thing to do, making his suit look so sculpted. Not to mention it's nowhere near Affleck's real physique.

It's like Snyder looked at comic books and saw the "body paint" look of the characters, and tried to directly transfer that on the screen without thinking about how well it translates.

To me, proportions are more important than muscle definition when it comes to superhero suits. It's why Cap, Daredevil, and Deadpool look very aesthetic without much muscle definition, if any. Batfleck has all the muscles and striations, but is lacking in the proportions aspect.

It's like Snyder took the wrong thing from comic pages.

Totally agree.

Not a fan of the body-builder look for someone who should be a stealth ninja. Even most MMA guys are leaner and less sculpted in look.

 

[lujho]

And I want to see at some point what's under the fabric skin. I want to see what the armour looks like.

 

[Verick808]

What I know is I want my white lenses. I recall several scenes where he would have been fare more intimidating with glowing white eyes. I wouldn't mind an Earth One costume either. I'd like to move away from Miller. It was never a good idea to piece together the DCEU in the background of a Miller inspired story.

 

[lujho]

What I know is I want my white lenses. I recall several scenes where he would have been fare more intimidating with glowing white eyes. I wouldn't mind an Earth One costume either. I'd like to move away from Miller. It was never a good idea to piece together the DCEU in the background of a Miller inspired story.

They don't even have to be white. They can just be clear, like the lenses in the tech cowl that never played a part in the movie (the tech cowl may technically have been under the regular cowl, but the lenses definitely didn't come into play).

If the lenses are clear, you can show Ben's real eyes in close-ups for "acting", but the fact that they're there means you have something to reflect light off when you want to show him looking supernatural or whatever - even if you have to cheat it a little digitally.

 

[AvegningSpider]

What I know is I want my white lenses. I recall several scenes where he would have been fare more intimidating with glowing white eyes. I wouldn't mind an Earth One costume either. I'd like to move away from Miller. It was never a good idea to piece together the DCEU in the background of a Miller inspired story.

They could play it as Bruce using White Contact Lenses to further cause fear on supersticious and cowardly criminals...

 

[Corko]

The suit looked so much better than I thought it would in the movie. I imagine they'll keep the same bulk especially with Mamoa coming in.

 

[Mr.?]

I hope they keep this suit for solo movies but maybe with the JL they can try out the dark blue batsuit? No? ok then

 

[matt47]

If they do give us a different suit I wonder if they'll explain it in the movie. From the looks of it, Bats has had this suit for over 10 years, considering that Robin's suit is exactly like it and Snyder said he died 10 years ago. And I don't see function-wise why he would need a new suit, I mean, this one stops point blank shots to the HEAD!


Btw, I hope the BTS features so in depth on materials that can stop bullets like that.

 

[The Guard]

If he gets a new suit, I think they'll explain it as a rebirth of his character in some fashion.

This Batman wars his battle scars on his suit. He hasn't changed into a new one.

I could see a pristine new suit eventually to reflect a rededication to his mission and a new, more hopeful outlook.

 

[hafizbat]

They don't even have to be white. They can just be clear, like the lenses in the tech cowl that never played a part in the movie (the tech cowl may technically have been under the regular cowl, but the lenses definitely didn't come into play).

If the lenses are clear, you can show Ben's real eyes in close-ups for "acting", but the fact that they're there means you have something to reflect light off when you want to show him looking supernatural or whatever - even if you have to cheat it a little digitally.

I don't know if Batfleck will ever have lenses, but it's definitely the #1 thing on my wishlist for a future Batsuit. With Deadpool, Daredevil, and Black Panther all rocking the lenses, I don't see why Batman can't. Others may disagree, but I think it would be a big improvement. And there's always room for innovation, like Marvel did with Spidey's squinting lenses to cover a range of eye shapes (brilliant!).

This looks SO DAMN GOOD.

And yeah, after seeing the Schumaker comparisons I can't help but see the similarities in the Batfleck suit. It's undoubtedly a monumental step away from the black rubber days, but there is still room for improvement.

 

[hafizbat]

And I want to see at some point what's under the fabric skin. I want to see what the armour looks like.

Same. I've always loved the way it looked here.

 

[storyteller]

If they do give us a different suit I wonder if they'll explain it in the movie. From the looks of it, Bats has had this suit for over 10 years, considering that Robin's suit is exactly like it and Snyder said he died 10 years ago. And I don't see function-wise why he would need a new suit, I mean, this one stops point blank shots to the HEAD!


Btw, I hope the BTS features so in depth on materials that can stop bullets like that.

Well just because it can stop bullets doesn't mean it will maintain the same strength after repeated hits. The suit does look pretty beat up. Wouldn't be a stretch for him to get a new one because he's going up a new series of threats.

That being said, I would love if in Justice League, we see the suit get torn up to the point where yeah he needs to bust out a new suit. The most damage we've ever seen the suit take is when Keaton ripped the cowl off in Returns and Banes breaking the cowl. The body of the suit has always stood up.