The Daily Planet - Superman News and Speculation Thread (🚨TAG SPOILERS🚨)

[Gamma Goliath]

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Maybe a trailer?

That'd be ideal, but I certainly wouldn't hold my breath for it.

 

[GreenKToo]

I can see how Gunn's track record might be a comfort for some, but it's still going to be an uphill battle for Superman and the DCU in general. I'm hoping for the best, though.

I've said it before but I'll say it again. I think we may see a batman begins type of situation here.
A lower than hoped B.O. but really positive reviews, and the audience embraces it after the fact.
As of now, I think this does around 650 to 720 million. Lower than the suits probably want, but it will ( hopefully ) be a critical hit with critics and audiences as well, you know, the critics that actually matter.

We shall see. It may do worse, or maybe even much better than I think.
The next trailer will give us a better idea.
They gotta bring it in that trailer tho, and really bring it hard.

 

[TheGDBatman]

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That'd be ideal, but I certainly wouldn't hold my breath for it.

I still feel like Cinema Con is the best bet... unless they're planning on showing a scene or something there instead.

If something is coming, we'll likely get a tease today indicating that's the case.

 

[GreenKToo]

I get the why, but I still think it was a mistake to not cast a couple of big names in the smaller roles, ie, the Kent's and Els.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I've said it before but I'll say it again. I think we may see a batman begins type of situation here.
A lower than hoped B.O. but really positive reviews, and the audience embraces it after the fact.
As of now, I think this does around 650 to 720 million. Lower than the suits probably want, but it will ( hopefully ) be a critical hit with critics and audiences as well, the critics that matter.

We shall see. It may do worse, or maybe even much better. The next trailer will give us a better idea.

I think Superman can have a significantly bigger opening than Batman Begins had provided that the studio does a good job of marketing it (which I highly assume that they will) and the reviews are mostly positive. Batman Begins was released at a time when superhero films weren't as popular as they are today. And, while the marketing push for that film was clearly effective, I think WB can go even further to promote Superman with such a lively cast as David, Rachel, Maria, et al. Having them appear on some of the major morning talk shows feels like a no-brainer. The Today Show, in particular, tends to go all out for these kinds of things. Theoretically, a marketing blitz combined with strong reviews should easily generate larger numbers for opening weekend. Beyond that, all you can do is hope that the general audience has an appetite for whatever it is that Gunn cooked up with this film. I know I say this all the time, but I'm still concerned about The Fantastic Four and, to a lesser extent, Jurassic World. I get that Gunn is sticking to the July 11 release date out of sentimentality, but I really think his father would sympathize, especially since he's no longer sentient. On the same token, putting Superman up against such potentially fierce competition shows that the studio believes in it. You certainly can't say the same for Marvel and Captain America 4. So, I suppose there is that.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

That'd be ideal, but I certainly wouldn't hold my breath for it.

What else could it be?

 

[Gamma Goliath]

What else could it be?

I'm not sure what it could be, I feel like if we were getting a trailer we'd get another lead up or announcement. And I don't think the DC japan page would be leading the marketing for that. Maybe some promo stuff will drop.

 

[TheGDBatman]

I'm not sure what it could be, I feel like if we were getting a trailer we'd get another lead up or announcement. And I don't think the DC japan page would be leading the marketing for that. Maybe some promo stuff will drop.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a poster or something.

 

[Stringer]

Sinners comes out in a month. It's R-rated but a major WB release. I could see a new trailer being attached to that.

 

[DCDAVE]

You guys fear of a July 11 release is comical. WB knows what it has in Superman. The middle of the Summer is a big box office time because kids are out of school and it is hot as hell. No it shouldn’t release in June or any other time. Superman is the movie event of the Summer not Jurassic World or Fantastic 4. Joker 2 and Captain America had no competition. Wicked had to deal with Moana and Gladiator. If it is a good movie it will excel.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I’m sorry, this movie could very easily be a hit but if you don’t think F4 and ESPECIALLY Jurassic World are huge threats to it you are kidding yourself. Even if ultimately winds up coming out on top, from a present day POV Jurassic World is objectively a more important and well proven IP from a box office perspective than Superman.

 

[Adrian Chase]

Sinners comes out in a month. It's R-rated but a major WB release. I could see a new trailer being attached to that.

Minecraft better

 

[DCDAVE]

I’m sorry, this movie could very easily be a hit but if you don’t think F4 and ESPECIALLY Jurassic World are huge threats to it you are kidding yourself. Even if ultimately winds up coming out on top, from a present day POV Jurassic World is objectively a more important and well proven IP from a box office perspective than Superman.

Gladiator and Moana vs Wicked. All three did well. Game, set, and match. Joker 2 lost to Terier 2 or whatever and Captain America will not out gross Aquaman 2 which was basically a throw away movie.

 

[TheGDBatman]

I think it’s hard to deny that Jurassic World won’t eat into Superman’s box office potential.

I could see JW having a stronger opening weekend, but ultimately having weaker legs (assuming Superman has positive WOM/reviews and JW is as bland as it looks).

I’m generally a Jurassic World apologist, but the last movie really killed the hype for me. Anecdotally, I know a few people who feel the exact same way.

 

[jokesonm3]

I think it’s hard to deny that Jurassic World won’t eat into Superman’s box office potential.

I could see JW having a stronger opening weekend, but ultimately having weaker legs (assuming Superman has positive WOM/reviews and JW is as bland as it looks).

I’m generally a Jurassic World apologist, but the last movie really killed the hype for me. Anecdotally, I know a few people who feel the exact same way.

In Superman's defence, Jurassic World Dominion did have a 59.2% drop on it's second week with it's only competition being the opening week of Lightyear, if the hype is there (which i believe is) JW:R's gonna have a huge 2nd week drop.

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[Karelia]

Just have a good feeling about Superman....

 

[flickchick85]

It's weird because all 3 of these July flicks have a "wilcard" quality to me, where they could each go either way. I could buy any one of them just completely falling off a cliff just as easily as I could buy any one of them wildly overperforming. But if I'm being honest with my actual prediction, I think IF all 3 are at least decent, they will all do well, while maybe not quite as well as their respective fans are expecting.

The JWorld franchise a textbook example of diminishing returns while still being successful, so I'm sure it will bring in big bucks, just not quite as big as its predecessor, and it's a franchise with big 2nd weekend drops, so I doubt it will hurt Superman too much unless it has amazing WOM. F4 is an IP the general audience doesn't give a s*** about, but the movie looks different enough from Marvel's recent failed efforts to bring people out for it that didn't come out for those, and GotG proved pre-existing interest in the IP doesn't matter so much with Marvel. The IP is Marvel itself, and GA interest is gauged by how it looks compared to other Marvel stuff. So I think barring a terrible misfire, it will have a respectable run. Superman is an IP the general audience cares for more than F4, but less than Jurassic, and the GA have also been onboard with Gunn's previous family-friendly fare, so I think - especially with Krypto in the mix - this one will have the biggest appeal to families of the 3, so it should also have a solid leggy performance if Gunn delivers on the level of the Guardians flicks or better.

I kinda expect all 3 of these movies to end up somewhere between $650-925 million each, with Jurassic being the highest unless it royally sucks. And if Superman falls anywhere in that range while getting good critic/audience scores, that's more than good enough for a sequel and a solid start to the DCU.

 

[emielaen]

I think every studio with a July release knows it'll be an uphill battle. Of course they want profit but reception will be big here too.

 

[DCDAVE]

It's weird because all 3 of these July flicks have a "wilcard" quality to me, where they could each go either way. I could buy any one of them just completely falling off a cliff just as easily as I could buy any one of them wildly overperforming. But if I'm being honest with my actual prediction, I think IF all 3 are at least decent, they will all do well, while maybe not quite as well as their respective fans are expecting.

The JWorld franchise a textbook example of diminishing returns while still being successful, so I'm sure it will bring in big bucks, just not quite as big as it's predecessor, and it's a franchise with big 2nd weekend drops, so I doubt it will hurt Superman too much unless it has amazing WOM. F4 is an IP the general audience doesn't give a s*** about, but the movie looks different enough from Marvel's recent failed efforts to bring people out for it that didn't come out for those, and GotG proved pre-existing interest in the IP doesn't matter so much with Marvel. The IP is Marvel itself, and GA interest is gauged by how it looks compared to other Marvel stuff. So I think barring a terrible misfire, it will have a respectable run. Superman is an IP the general audience cares for more than F4, but less than Jurassic, and the GA have also been onboard with Gunn's previous family-friendly fare, so I think - especially with Krypto in the mix - this one will have the biggest appeal to families of the 3, so it should also have a solid leggy performance if Gunn delivers on the level of the Guardians flicks or better.

I kinda expect all 3 of these movies to end up somewhere between $650-925 million each, with Jurassic being the highest unless it royally sucks. And if Superman falls anywhere in that range while getting good critic/audience scores, that's more than good enough for a sequel and a solid start to the DCU.

You it hit on the head with your last paragraph. All three can do well. I just believe Superman has the highest ceiling and if any of the three break out to a billion it will be Superman in my opinion. Jurassic has the highest floor because of its IP and star power with Scarlet and Ali.

 

[Chris B]

You it hit on the head with your last paragraph. All three can do well. I just believe Superman has the highest ceiling and if any of the three break out to a billion it will be Superman in my opinion. Jurassic has the highest floor because of its IP and star power with Scarlet and Ali.

I have to agree. I think all three do well at the end of the day, but Superman just seems like the kind of feel good movie people need right now. If Gunn delivers the goods, I'm confident audiences will turn out.

Jurassic World is probably the main competition as its another iconic IP and there being only a one-week separating it from Supes isn't ideal.

My gut feeling is that Fantastic Four will be one of Marvel's stronger post-Endgame performers. The two-week gap i think keeps it from stepping on Superman's toes too much.

 

[Tra-El]

I'm kind of worried for Superman, but only because it's nearing crunch time and that I'm a Superman fan that wants to see the character excel and flourish on the big screen. Always have; always will. Add in the known pressure the film has on it to perform for DC to have a resemblance of a last chance, and things get even more cloudy.

The way I see it, Marvel is the brand for F4, and audiences will automatically swarm to that brand out of any of the three if it is indeed good (regardless of their recent misfires and failures).

Jurassic World is also an IP that can carry itself from the title alone, so that movie will automatically steal as much of the audience that it can respectfully muster.

Superman is the biggest wildcard out of the bunch and is banking squarely off of Gunn's ability to have the best story and feel-good movie out of the three, thus, predicting that its legs and WOM will be needed the most. It's on Gunn to make up-commers and no-names in the film a name squarely on his directional performance and ability to make the audience FEEL. Superman is not only a reboot of a troubled and battered studio, but also in direct competition with the MCU without a handful of A-listers that general audience sometimes cling onto to atleast get their interests tingling.

It's almost unpredictable to predict. Either result won't surprise me at this stage. Some days I think it will exceed expectations (and then-some) and others that feeling of failure slaps. The two tug of war thought processes have led me to one mindset and one mindset only: JUST GIVE US A GOOD SUPERMAN FILM. It starts and ends there with me. Everything else will sort itself out.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

So this DC Japan Twitter post about "tomorrow". Time wise when should we expect to know about what it is exactly?. Is there any sort of time given to watch out for?.

 

[flickchick85]

So this DC Japan Twitter post about "tomorrow". Time wise when should we expect to know about what it is exactly?. Is there any sort of time given to watch out for?.

I think it already happened - it was just an announcement that Japan is getting the movie on July 11th with the rest of the world instead of the usual delay.

 

[MAN O STEEL]

I think it already happened - it was just an announcement that Japan is getting the movie on July 11th with the rest of the world instead of the usual delay.

So they write "tomorrow", like it's some big thing happening, just for it to be confirmation of a release date, when they just could have used that tweet to tell of the release date to begin with?. Okie dokie then. Well that was lame. Was hoping for another shot of supermans feet or another guy Gardner parting his hair with his finger clip or something. Way she blows

 

[flickchick85]

Well I think they also released the official Japanese poster (with said release date) and trailer, but they're the same as ours, so that's pretty much the gist, yeah. I think it was just marking the beginning of the film's promo in Japan.