The Flash The Flash season 2 episode 13 "Welcome to Earth-2"

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This may be my favorite episode of the season.
 
E2 Henry Allen isn't Zoom. That was pretty unequivocally established by the episode.
 
E2 Henry Allen isn't Zoom. That was pretty unequivocally established by the episode.
Was it? Do we really know that? I'm not saying he is, but do we know unequivocally that? It doesn't seem confirmed. Personally I'm waiting for it to either be Eddie or that somehow it's either Hunter Zolomon or something.

God bless you! God bless everyone!
 
E2 Barry has an ongoing and stable relationship with his parents, as evidenced by the fact that he has them on speed dial.

As smart as E2 Barry is given what we saw of him, he'd easily be able to figure out if his father were the metahuman psychopath who's been terrorizing Earth-2 for two years, and he would've told Iris if he had.

E2 Henry Allen clearly isn't in jail, so he's clearly not Zoom.
 
They killed a lot of zoom theories tonight. Was Deathstorm just Ronnie or was stein in there as well and evil?

Ronnie alluded that he hasn't let the Dr out in a long while, so it is not just him, supposedly.

I liked the episode but if you step back, and io9 wrote the perfect article about it.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/i-have-never-seen-a-superhero-act-stupider-than-on-last-1758248188

Barry did some of the dumbest things ever and was responsible for all the deaths that happened.

Looking at the phone easter egg, are we to believe that Earth 2 Barry is also the Flash???? That doesn't make sense but it seems like lots of dopplegangers have the same powers.
 
Earth 2 Barry can't be a meta human, because Earth 2 Iris would know with her watch/alarm.
 
There's no reason why E2 Barry can't be friends with the E2 versions of Hal Jordan, Bruce Wayne, and Princess Diana even if they're heroes and he isn't.
 
The symbol in his chest looked different, too.

Its the same emblem, only flipped right to left as opposed to left to right - kinda like, I dunno Reverse Flash or..........ZOOM? Has to be intentional as it would seem odd for them to unintentionally use a flipped image without realising what that would do to the emblem. Ooh, what if 90s TV show Barry has evolved into Zoom? :ilv:
 
Zoom is an Earth-2 native. People keep seeming to forget that fact in their speculation as to who he might be.
 
This episode was awesome. The Earth-2 adventure was fun, exciting, intense, suspenseful, and bizarre. The look of Earth-2 was cool, and all the actors were on top of their game. Can't wait to see how they escape Earth-2 next week.
 
I say Zoom is Earth-2 Joe and the death scene was a mis-direct by the writers and Zoom. How else could he know Barry and Iris are chasing down Deathstorm and Killer Frost.
 
Perhaps the name "Bruce" being on earth 2 barrys phone is not a confirmation batman exists in earth 2. Maybe in this world, Bruce's parents were not murdered, therefore he didn't become the batman.
 
E2 Barry has an ongoing and stable relationship with his parents, as evidenced by the fact that he has them on speed dial.

As smart as E2 Barry is given what we saw of him, he'd easily be able to figure out if his father were the metahuman psychopath who's been terrorizing Earth-2 for two years, and he would've told Iris if he had.

E2 Henry Allen clearly isn't in jail, so he's clearly not Zoom.
How smart is Earth-2 Barry? We don't get an indication of his intelligence really. Either way, I don't see how he would be able to figure out that a super fast, completely covered, monster is his dad? Henry not being in jail and them having a stable relationship doesn't come off as a confirmation either to me. I'm still not trying to say that he is, but there isn't any real confirmation that he isn't.

God bless you! God bless everyone!
 
Perhaps the name "Bruce" being on earth 2 barrys phone is not a confirmation batman exists in earth 2. Maybe in this world, Bruce's parents were not murdered, therefore he didn't become the batman.

Barry's mom was, it could be.
 
Ronnie alluded that he hasn't let the Dr out in a long while, so it is not just him, supposedly.

I liked the episode but if you step back, and io9 wrote the perfect article about it.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/i-have-never-seen-a-superhero-act-stupider-than-on-last-1758248188

Barry did some of the dumbest things ever and was responsible for all the deaths that happened.

Looking at the phone easter egg, are we to believe that Earth 2 Barry is also the Flash???? That doesn't make sense but it seems like lots of dopplegangers have the same powers.

If anything, the writer of the article is an insufferable *******. Yeah, what Barry did might've been dumb or irresponsible, but it was also human and relatable. If anyone had the idealized version of their lives in front of them, within their grasp, I doubt that they wouldn't at least be tempted to take it for a test drive. Unless you're a super stoic robot without feelz and such. If anything this dumbass is expecting a character in a story to have the same amount if not more genre savvy than the audience. This ain't Deadpool fam. Save the 4th wall breaking for that movie.
 
Its the same emblem, only flipped right to left as opposed to left to right - kinda like, I dunno Reverse Flash or..........ZOOM?

I knew it was flipped, but I thought I'd seen an outline around the white circle. Upon closer inspection, though, there's no outline.
 
Did anyone else laugh when Jay said, "You don't want to see the best I have to offer," (or whatever) and then promptly fell over? What does he offer this team exactly? I feel kinda sorry for the actor portraying him.

That part where he claimed Velocity 6 stole his speed felt a bit like a retcon. It reminded me of the way Patty was written out of the story.
 
There's no reason why E2 Barry can't be friends with the E2 versions of Hal Jordan, Bruce Wayne, and Princess Diana even if they're heroes and he isn't.

I enjoyed that moment for what it was, i.e., a cool nod. I'll just give them the benefit of the doubt and believe Bruce, Diana and Hal are just depowered versions of themselves on E-2.

Otherwise it's hard to explain how Zoom has been able to terrorise a city to the extent he has when Green Latern, Wonder Woman and Batman exist alongside The Flash.
 
Amazing episode! Earth 2 was awesome. Earth 2 Iris :hmr: and Zoom is B.A. Can't wait until next weeks episode! Not really sure what to make of Barry having, basically the entire, Justice League on speed dial though...
 
Iris is just hot altogether. E1 or E2, they're all hot. :hehe:
 
I think it might actually be Earth 2 Wally.

Yes a thought I also had but could also be Eddie Thawne. If it isn't Tony Todd if & when the mask does come off then I will be disappointed.
 
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