The Rebooted "Keep Hope Alive" (that the rights can revert back to Marvel) Thread - - - - - - Part 15

[Iceman]

Isaac and RDJ interacting on something important would be amazing.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Isaac and RDJ interacting on something important would be amazing.

This is where actors like John Krasinski don't do it for me. Isaac feels much more "Reed" to me and I feel like he could hold his own better than some names that have been suggested.

 

[Spider-Fan]

See, when Krasinski was suggested for Cap, I didn't see it. You suggest him for Reed, I see it. I think he would be a fine Reed.

 

[Marvel united]

See, when Krasinski was suggested for Cap, I didn't see it. You suggest him for Reed, I see it. I think he would be a fine Reed.

Well, Krasinski made it to the shortlist If I remember correctly

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well, Krasinski made it to the shortlist If I remember correctly

He was the early favorite until the Marvel guys decided to look at Chris Evans. I remember the shortlist and when they said that Krasinski was almost a done deal, and I was very meh to it. As soon as Evans was suggested as a possible choice, I was all in. Glad I was right

But Krasinski I can see as Reed. Especially now.

 

[Dark Raven]

I would be fine with Krasinski as Reed. I think Reed needs a bit of Cap in him. He needs to have those same kinds of leadership qualities that people would follow him.

 

[Iceman]

This is where actors like John Krasinski don't do it for me. Isaac feels much more "Reed" to me and I feel like he could hold his own better than some names that have been suggested.

I haven’t seen what he’s done recently so don’t want to completely write him off (like I did for Cap), but if I had to choose here it would definitely be Oscar. I think he has a similar X-factor to RDJ and can bring it out in a Reed-appropriate way.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I would be fine with Krasinski as Reed. I think Reed needs a bit of Cap in him. He needs to have those same kinds of leadership qualities that people would follow him.

To me, Krasinski is a bit too 'nice', and I think that works with Cap, but Reed has always been a bit of a jerk in my mind. He says things like "Ben you fool!" when Ben is, admittedly, being a fool, and I think that arrogance and impatience sets him apart from some other characters.

I like the idea that the smartest guy in the universe is going to be a little impatient and frustrated with how stupid other people can be.

 

[Marvel united]

He was the early favorite until the Marvel guys decided to look at Chris Evans. I remember the shortlist and when they said that Krasinski was almost a done deal, and I was very meh to it. As soon as Evans was suggested as a possible choice, I was all in. Glad I was right

But Krasinski I can see as Reed. Especially now.

I agree, I was in the same boat back then about Evans when his name popped up. Marvel really wanted him and I'm soo glad it payed off in the end. But I was open to Krasinski at the time too, he got pretty close to nabbing the role so they must've saw something in him. Krasinski has been in my mind for Reed since I saw him in 13 Hours. Which sold me on the idea that he could play a confident, arrogant, strong character who can be take charge whenever he needs to.

 

[Iceman]

To me, Krasinski is a bit too 'nice', and I think that works with Cap, but Reed has always been a bit of a jerk in my mind. He says things like "Ben you fool!" when Ben is, admittedly, being a fool, and I think that arrogance and impatience sets him apart from some other characters.

I like the idea that the smartest guy in the universe is going to be a little impatient and frustrated with how stupid other people can be.

I would love for Doom to come across the non-Reed MCU superbrains and dismiss them as average while only attempting to outdo Reed, considering him to be his only competition.

 

[Marvel united]

To me, Krasinski is a bit too 'nice', and I think that works with Cap, but Reed has always been a bit of a jerk in my mind. He says things like "Ben you fool!" when Ben is, admittedly, being a fool, and I think that arrogance and impatience sets him apart from some other characters.

I like the idea that the smartest guy in the universe is going to be a little impatient and frustrated with how stupid other people can be.

Too nice? You should check out Krasinski in 13 Hours:

Spoiler

He's not a "nice" character in that movie at all.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Too nice? You should check out Krasinski in 13 Hours:

Spoiler

He's not a "nice" character in that movie at all.

I haven't seen that. It might change my mind. And I think for almost anybody I'd be willing to say: "Give them a screen test and let's see what they can do." I'm just looking at everyone very broadly based on what I know of them.

 

[Detective Conan]

Marvel Studios Concept Artist Andy Park reacts to the Fox Sony Deal:

"There’s nothing really to say yet. At least beyond, ‘Wow.’ That whole Disney buying Fox deal is – none of us saw that coming, and we’re amazed and excited, because we always dreamed of having the X-Men and Fantastic Four in the MCU, but nothing’s actually been decided or announced. So, I have nothing to spill, ’cause I don’t even know what the future is. The only thing I’ve read… these thing are going to take at least 12 months to 18 months for something to even happen."

To those hoping to see Wolverine making a cameo in the post credit scene in any of the upcoming MCU films then I've got bad news for ya':"If people are expecting to see them in one of our near upcoming films like they might be disappointed," I don’t know. I would love to see them, too, but I have no idea when they’re actually going to come out, but I’m excited for the future. I can’t wait to find out."

 

[wobbly]

I would love for Doom to come across the non-Reed MCU superbrains and dismiss them as average while only attempting to outdo Reed, considering him to be his only competition.

I remember the Iron-Man comics back in the 80's where Stark & Doom are sent back in time to King Arthur's Court and to get back to the present they have to work together stripping bits off thier armours to make a working one shot time machine.

Says a lot for what Doom thought of Stark back then. A clever underling

 

[galmorzu]

He was the early favorite until the Marvel guys decided to look at Chris Evans. I remember the shortlist and when they said that Krasinski was almost a done deal, and I was very meh to it. As soon as Evans was suggested as a possible choice, I was all in. Glad I was right.

When Evans was announced I had already seen Sunshine and he made a HUGE impression on me from that. It was that movie alone that had me crossing all my fingers hoping he would get the role of Cap just to see him apply that kind of seriousness and determination to that character, and man oh man did he deliver.

And I love the idea of Isaac as Reed. That guy has an amazing acting voice. I could just listen to him science the hell out of stuff all day in a F4 movie.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Says a lot for what Doom thought of Stark back then. A clever underling

That’s an interesting point. At first glance, I would have thought Doom was pretty impressed, but you’re right. He’s saying: ‘This guy is pretty smart, so Stark must be a genius.’ He’s not saying ‘Wow! This guy is a genius.’

 

[Dark Raven]

That’s an interesting point. At first glance, I would have thought Doom was pretty impressed, but you’re right. He’s saying: ‘This guy is pretty smart, so Stark must be a genius.’ He’s not saying ‘Wow! This guy is a genius.’

Doom should've been able to figure out that Iron Man was Tony Stark.

Imagine if you go for a job at Stark Industries and you hold several advanced degrees in science and engineering and are hoping to work in Stark's science division creating new technologies. And then all Stark does is put you to work as his bodyguard.

That's like some physics professor working as the university janitor, using all his years of studies and research to mop floors. To be just a bodyguard (which is like working in security) would you really need all this advanced knowledge?

So Doom should've been able to figure that one out.

 

[wobbly]

Doom should've been able to figure out that Iron Man was Tony Stark.

Imagine if you go for a job at Stark Industries and you hold several advanced degrees in science and engineering and are hoping to work in Stark's science division creating new technologies. And then all Stark does is put you to work as his bodyguard.

That's like some physics professor working as the university janitor, using all his years of studies and research to mop floors. To be just a bodyguard (which is like working in security) would you really need all this advanced knowledge?

So Doom should've been able to figure that one out.

Suspension of disbelief. Most superhero secret identities would not bear up well to any kind of real world scrutiny, investigation or even basic observation in some cases (...Superman ). All those half masks like Batman, even less coverage with domino masks, etc, offer no good disguise at all. With other factors, like Batman's obvious access to considerable wealth for example, Bruce Wayne's childhood tragedy etc, it would not take a genius in the real world to connect the dots with him. Even someone covered fully like Spider-Man could be figured out pretty easy when you think about it.

For Iron-Man, before he went public, I just figured it kinda makes sense that whoever everyone else thinks Tony would put in the armour should have some decent knowledge of how it works, if only for the on the fly repairs & maintenance. Dooms surprise in the story above lay in IM being smarter than he would have presumed,...but still not all that great, lol

 

[wobbly]

That sounds an awful lot like Sheldon Lee Cooper

Do you want Reed Richards modeled after the main character from The Big Bang Theory ?

Being "a little impatient and frustrated with how stupid other people can be" is not an uncommon trait (hell I get that at times and I aint no Reed Richards), and its certainly not exclusive to a sit-com character.

When thinking of Reed simply jumping to current geeky pop culture geniuses like those in 'the Big Bang Theory' is the wrong way to go about it. Personality wise Reed has far more in common with someone like Doc Savage than he does Sheldon Cooper.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

That sounds an awful lot like Sheldon Lee Cooper

Do you want Reed Richards modeled after the main character from The Big Bang Theory ?

No.

Doesn't my description also sound a lot like Don Draper? How similar are Don Draper and Sheldon Cooper? Reed should be a lot closer to Don Draper.

 

[Orba]

Suspension of disbelief. Most superhero secret identities would not bear up well to any kind of real world scrutiny, investigation or even basic observation in some cases (...Superman ). All those half masks like Batman, even less coverage with domino masks, etc, offer no good disguise at all. With other factors, like Batman's obvious access to considerable wealth for example, Bruce Wayne's childhood tragedy etc, it would not take a genius in the real world to connect the dots with him. Even someone covered fully like Spider-Man could be figured out pretty easy when you think about it.

There is a lot of suspension of disbelief but one of the reasons I am fond of Christopher Reeves's performance was that he did try to make the two personalities different. He seemed to gain a couple of inches when he took off the glasses.

 

[Dark Raven]

No.

Doesn't my description also sound a lot like Don Draper? How similar are Don Draper and Sheldon Cooper? Reed should be a lot closer to Don Draper.

It sounded like Don "Sheldon Cooper" Draper. And if we get Jim Parsons as Reed now, I blame you.

From Miles Teller to Jim Parsons.... what a revoltin' development!

 

[Spider-Fan83]

I'd say more like Mycroft from Sherlock...

(maybe just a bit less evil lol)

See, when Krasinski was suggested for Cap, I didn't see it. You suggest him for Reed, I see it. I think he would be a fine Reed.

kinda feel like people are still picturing Krasinski as skinny/nerdy Jim from the office... looking at him now, I say he'd be a better fit for Ben, if anyone in the F4

tho, I've also considered him for Beast in X-men?

 

[DawnWarrior]

^That sounds more like Dr. Doom, tbh.

 

[Crimz]

kinda feel like people are still picturing Krasinski as skinny/nerdy Jim from the office... looking at him now, I say he'd be a better fit for Ben, if anyone in the F4

tho, I've also considered him for Beast in X-men?

I personally don't want Reed to be that scrawny stereotype that Hollywood has of geniuses. Lee and Kirby originally envisioned him to look like a Hollywood leading man at the time and some comic book runs use that interpretation.

He's not ripped like Captain America, but he isn't meant to look skinny. Which is why Krasinski isn't a bad choice (though I personally prefer Oscar Isaac over him).