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The Relationship Thread: Because Superhero Forums are Full of Sexperts! - - - - - - - - Part 27

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So my girlfriend is pregnant. Totally unexpected, came out of no where. At a bad time, shes just finishing up school and wants to do things, I'm still in school, and are in no time to raise a child. She's going to get an abortion, does anyone have experience with this? I don't want her to hjave more stress.
 
There's no way of avoiding her having stress from the situation at this stage. It's happened, and it's going to be an emotional roller coaster.

All you can do is truly be there for her 100% and support her.
 
It's just odd. Kinda. She never wanted kids, and I did. we are 22 years old, and I was always worried that the difference in choice for kids would create further issues. But my feelings grow and I learned more about myself so I told myself to just enjoy the relationship. Now after this, she told me that this whole thing made her want kids.

It's just wild
 
I was going to post how s**t things are going for me at the moment, but after reading Hopeful's post? I didn't want to bring the mood down...
I think the natural mood for this thread is cranky, so spill away. :funny:

Starting to wonder if I'm even capable of being mature enough for a relationship. I can't wait for therapy. My issues go way beyond alcoholism.
Alcoholism is a big sign of what your problems might be, so at least that'd be one big thing tackled once you start working on it. You don't have to be perfect to be in a relationship, but you do have to think beyond yourself.

You can get there. You gotta try, at least.

So my girlfriend is pregnant. Totally unexpected, came out of no where. At a bad time, shes just finishing up school and wants to do things, I'm still in school, and are in no time to raise a child. She's going to get an abortion, does anyone have experience with this? I don't want her to hjave more stress.
TLS had a gf who had an abortion when it was his baby, but I don't think you want to emulate any of his decisions lately. :o They broke up and she moved on, it was messy.

It's just odd. Kinda. She never wanted kids, and I did. we are 22 years old, and I was always worried that the difference in choice for kids would create further issues. But my feelings grow and I learned more about myself so I told myself to just enjoy the relationship. Now after this, she told me that this whole thing made her want kids.

It's just wild
People do change. Sometimes it just isn't the right time. But I have one extremely accomplished friend (who got her BS, MS, PhD, and now she's in med school) while she was raising 2 children, and now 3. Her life is HARD, I will not lie. She's the strongest person I know. But it isn't impossible.

I don't think anyone's truly "ready" for parenthood. Nothing will ever be perfect, which is why I think we'll never have kids, because my husband will never think things are perfect enough. :funny: You are just forced to adjust, from what I've heard from parents.

And yeah, hopeful is right - there's gonna be stress and there's nothing you can do about that. All you can do is try your best and be understanding and supportive.
 
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So, I may be about to start something with a guy I've been friends with for a very long time but I'm really scared about how things will end up (for our friendship). We aren't officially in a relationship yet and I'm still starting to get worried about things like rejection and little things he does (like not showing enthusiasm in a casual conversation). I know these are silly things to worry about but does the fact that I'm this insecure already suggest that maybe I shouldn't get into a relationship just yet? I do really like him and I have no doubts about actually being with him.
 
Isn't casual conversation like a major building block for a relationship though? I'm not trying to be funny, perhaps it's different for different people but won't it make the whole relationship more tricky if talking in general doesn't come naturally?
 
So, I may be about to start something with a guy I've been friends with for a very long time but I'm really scared about how things will end up (for our friendship). We aren't officially in a relationship yet and I'm still starting to get worried about things like rejection and little things he does (like not showing enthusiasm in a casual conversation). I know these are silly things to worry about but does the fact that I'm this insecure already suggest that maybe I shouldn't get into a relationship just yet? I do really like him and I have no doubts about actually being with him.
Has he always been like that around everyone, or just with you?

Cause God knows my husband is like, the least enthusiastic, least social person ever, but I wouldn't want him to pretend for me. That's just the way he is, and it's something you have to accept if you know that's just the way he is. How your partner acts around other people isn't a reflection of you, unless he's a total a-hole or abuses you in public. Obviously those are no-nos, but they're also more like, reasons why you shouldn't be with a guy like that in the first place, rather than how he makes you look to other people. :oldrazz:

I don't know if anyone knows if they're ready for a relationship until they get in one. I thought I'd always be a jealous b***h in relationships due to my first experience, but I was wrong. My husband made me feel very safe from the very first date, and I was more mature then too. I knew that even if it didn't work out, it wasn't the end of the world. Fear of rejection is very powerful in most people though.

Just be aware of your insecurities, let him know that you're working on them, and then take it from there.
 
Isn't casual conversation like a major building block for a relationship though? I'm not trying to be funny, perhaps it's different for different people but won't it make the whole relationship more tricky if talking in general doesn't come naturally?
Some people just don't like to talk when they first meet you, and have their guard up more. My husband is one of them. I just liked being around him - sometimes I don't like to talk either. Introverts, you know. :oldrazz: So it depends on the person.

He never stayed quiet when it was important though. I trusted that if he had a problem, he'd tell me. And he's always, always been verbally supportive when I needed it. But he's not big on "casual conversation" most of the time. I've learned about him in bits and pieces through the years.

He's relaxed around each me quite a bit over the years. What we have now, after 5 years together, is TOTALLY DIFFERENT than how we were even 2 years in.




But since they're already friends, maybe they don't need to do the "casual conversation" thing that marks most early relationships? She didn't say "participation," she said "enthusiasm." Which I interpreted to mean that he's checked out emotionally of small talk.
 
Has he always been like that around everyone, or just with you?

Cause God knows my husband is like, the least enthusiastic, least social person ever, but I wouldn't want him to pretend for me. That's just the way he is, and it's something you have to accept if you know that's just the way he is. How your partner acts around other people isn't a reflection of you, unless he's a total a-hole or abuses you in public. Obviously those are no-nos, but they're also more like, reasons why you shouldn't be with a guy like that in the first place, rather than how he makes you look to other people. :oldrazz:

I don't know if anyone knows if they're ready for a relationship until they get in one. I thought I'd always be a jealous b***h in relationships due to my first experience, but I was wrong. My husband made me feel very safe from the very first date, and I was more mature then too. I knew that even if it didn't work out, it wasn't the end of the world. Fear of rejection is very powerful in most people though.

Just be aware of your insecurities, let him know that you're working on them, and then take it from there.

Yeah he has moments like that a lot, I just notice it a lot more now and it actually bothers me all of a sudden. :funny:

Yeah I should really work on my insecurities, I think I'm just worried that he's having second thoughts or something. I've always been like this but I kind of hoped the deep fear of rejection and insecurities would wear off as I got older, I'm 19 now so I know I still have a while to go. :oldrazz:
 
Some people just don't like to talk when they first meet you, and have their guard up more. My husband is one of them. I just liked being around him - sometimes I don't like to talk either. Introverts, you know. :oldrazz: So it depends on the person.

He never stayed quiet when it was important though. I trusted that if he had a problem, he'd tell me. And he's always, always been verbally supportive when I needed it. But he's not big on "casual conversation" most of the time. I've learned about him in bits and pieces through the years.

He's relaxed around each me quite a bit over the years. What we have now, after 5 years together, is TOTALLY DIFFERENT than how we were even 2 years in.




But since they're already friends, maybe they don't need to do the "casual conversation" thing that marks most early relationships? She didn't say "participation," she said "enthusiasm." Which I interpreted to mean that he's checked out emotionally of small talk.

Basically, yeah.
 
Yeah he has moments like that a lot, I just notice it a lot more now and it actually bothers me all of a sudden. :funny:

Yeah I should really work on my insecurities, I think I'm just worried that he's having second thoughts or something. I've always been like this but I kind of hoped the deep fear of rejection and insecurities would wear off as I got older, I'm 19 now so I know I still have a while to go. :oldrazz:
Hmm, do you have an idea of why it bothers you? Did you have an image of what you wanted your boyfriend to be like and he doesn't meet that?

Also, relationships are built on trust. You have to trust that when he says he wants to be with you (or says anything, really), that he's telling the truth. Honesty is always the best policy, because if he starts lying to make you feel better, you NEVER know whether he's with you because he really wants to.

Yeah, you still have a while to go. :funny: My first relationship was from 19-21ish and as I said, I'm not shy about admitting I was a jealous b****h then. I wanted to slap my younger self for being so immature.

I met my husband when I was 25 and it was like night and day, so you have a ton of growing to do in the years to come. :yay:
 
Some people just don't like to talk when they first meet you, and have their guard up more. My husband is one of them. I just liked being around him - sometimes I don't like to talk either. Introverts, you know. :oldrazz: So it depends on the person.

He never stayed quiet when it was important though. I trusted that if he had a problem, he'd tell me. And he's always, always been verbally supportive when I needed it. But he's not big on "casual conversation" most of the time. I've learned about him in bits and pieces through the years.

He's relaxed around each me quite a bit over the years. What we have now, after 5 years together, is TOTALLY DIFFERENT than how we were even 2 years in.

Yeah, that's fair, and I understand that because I'm definitely not that extroverted and most people I know or am close with aren't either. I mean more in the sense that once you've crossed the "familiarity" boundary and it's getting closer to something more serious it's important to have easily flowing conversation? I mean it obviously varies among people (I have very little formal relationship experience so I may be off too) but communication between the people in a relationship should be smooth and easy, right?

I dunno maybe it's personal and has to do with how I was raised and how I am with those close to me but it's crucial for me to be able to just talk to my loved ones, whatever it may be about.

But since they're already friends, maybe they don't need to do the "casual conversation" thing that marks most early relationships? She didn't say "participation," she said "enthusiasm." Which I interpreted to mean that he's checked out emotionally of small talk.

Yeah, true. I dunno, for me though the closer I am to people the more I tend to talk and engage. It's probably just an indicator of relationships I've seen growing up from my folks, grandparents and whatnot that's informing my opinion though. Like getting into everyone's head so I understand how they feel about situations and just as a method of engagement in general. It's quite paradoxical, I love my own time and being alone for large parts of the day, but when I'm with friends and family and it's time to be social I really like being talkative. Different strokes and all that I suppose
 
Basically, yeah.
Does he look like he wants to shoot himself when he's in a situation he doesn't want to be in? :funny: That's my husband for you! It's why I don't invite him to go to museums or movies or concerts or whatever anymore - it's so obvious that he's miserable, and I don't like making him feel that way!
 
Hmm, do you have an idea of why it bothers you? Did you have an image of what you wanted your boyfriend to be like and he doesn't meet that?

Also, relationships are built on trust. You have to trust that when he says he wants to be with you (or says anything, really), that he's telling the truth. Honesty is always the best policy, because if he starts lying to make you feel better, you NEVER know whether he's with you because he really wants to.

Yeah, you still have a while to go. :funny: My first relationship was from 19-21ish and as I said, I'm not shy about admitting I was a jealous b****h then. I wanted to slap my younger self for being so immature.

I met my husband when I was 25 and it was like night and day, so you have a ton of growing to do in the years to come. :yay:

I think that's part of what it is, I assumed that the way we interact would change all of a sudden. I guess it was quite unrealistic to think that though.

The thing is he has never given me reason not to trust him but I still keep wondering if he actually means what he says which I think is mainly down to my insecurities.
 
Yeah, that's fair, and I understand that because I'm definitely not that extroverted and most people I know or am close with aren't either. I mean more in the sense that once you've crossed the "familiarity" boundary and it's getting closer to something more serious it's important to have easily flowing conversation? I mean it obviously varies among people (I have very little formal relationship experience so I may be off too) but communication between the people in a relationship should be smooth and easy, right?

I dunno maybe it's personal and has to do with how I was raised and how I am with those close to me but it's crucial for me to be able to just talk to my loved ones, whatever it may be about.
My husband and I have never had a fight. We clear the air all the time. If I sense there's something bothering him, I ask him about it. When he's doing something that bothers me, I tell him, and vice versa. When he thinks he's doing something that bothers me, he mentions it too. :funny: Our communication is probably as smooth as it will ever get in a relationship sense.

It's just that we don't fill empty air with gossip or discussion about movies or whatever. He's just not big on that. Small talk. Nope, doesn't do it.
 
I think that's part of what it is, I assumed that the way we interact would change all of a sudden. I guess it was quite unrealistic to think that though.

The thing is he has never given me reason not to trust him but I still keep wondering if he actually means what he says which I think is mainly down to my insecurities.
Well, he should be more intimate with you (emotionally and physically), but his general interactions won't change, no.

Yeah, if you just don't trust someone, that's on you to figure it out. It may have nothing to do with him, but also on how you see yourself as a person.

I think I got over my fear of rejection when I realized there was nothing to be afraid of regarding rejection. If I get rejected, so what? Just meant we were incompatible for whatever reason. It doesn't mean I'm a failure of a woman because I couldn't "keep him." That's an unhealthy way of thinking about relationships, that you weren't "good enough" for him or assigning a numeric value to yourself or other people.
 
To be fair a lot of the "lacking in enthusiasm" tends to occur over text, he's (slightly) better in person. :oldrazz:
 
Well, he should be more intimate with you (emotionally and physically), but his general interactions won't change, no.

Yeah, if you just don't trust someone, that's on you to figure it out. It may have nothing to do with him, but also on how you see yourself as a person.

I think I got over my fear of rejection when I realized there was nothing to be afraid of regarding rejection. If I get rejected, so what? Just meant we were incompatible for whatever reason. It doesn't mean I'm a failure of a woman because I couldn't "keep him." That's an unhealthy way of thinking about relationships, that you weren't "good enough" for him or assigning a numeric value to yourself or other people.

Yeah whenever things don't work out I always put the blame on myself and start to think negatively about myself for a while, whether it was truly my fault or not. Most of this was while I was 15-17 so I pegged it down to immaturity. Not that I'm mature now, but I'd hope I'd take things better now than I would have before.
 
Basically, we were at my birthday bash (which was just so incredible btw) and we got talking about that conversation and he said he's felt weird about things ever since... and I was just like 'Oh thank god it's not just me, that WAS a crappy conversation, right?'

I asked him if he thought maybe we were just playing relationship chicken, and he agreed, so I asked if he wanted to just cut the ******** and make it official and exclusive... and he said that he'd like that.

So since, he's made a point of mentioning the word boyfriend in conversation a couple of times, and even came back from seeing a friend saying 'I told him I had to go see my girlfriend'... and he tells me this with a big smile on his face and gives me a kiss, so I take is a sign he is actually into this and not just going along with it cause I want it.

So yeah... I guess... I have a boyfriend! Yay me!



I think this one has happened because i've been really patient and accepting of whatever really. I mean, I have no idea where it's going or whether it'll even work...

But the nice thing is, he's such an easy person to spend time with.

I mean, I spent the day with him and about 15 other friends on Saturday. Then went back to mine with him and a friend who was staying with me Sat night. Then the three of us lay around watching films Sunday till 4pm... then after that, me and him just didn't seem to want to part. So I ended up going to his and doing pretty much the same thing until 3pm Monday :funny:

It helps that we just have such similar taste in everything.

Found out yesterday that we both have the same number one favorite film (Donnie Darko) and generally just like the same kinds of films and tv. We like the same kind of music. We both grew up a bit unpopular and got into metal and weed etc.

It makes it so much easier to spend a lot of time with someone doing 'nothing' if your versions of nothing are the same.
Congratulations on achieving I have a boyfriendness!
I hope you guys are happy for a very long time.
 
i'm finally caught up in this thread.

congrats to hopeful
 
Just broke up with my girlfriend. I told her we should take a break and do that trial separation thing, but I don't see us ever getting back together. A series of insurmountable problems led to this. She didn't respect me and she doesn't respect herself, which would lead to daily fights. She would regularly mishear things I said and start a fight over them. I just couldn't do it anymore.
 
Just broke up with my girlfriend. I told her we should take a break and do that trial separation thing, but I don't see us ever getting back together. A series of insurmountable problems led to this. She didn't respect me and she doesn't respect herself, which would lead to daily fights. She would regularly mishear things I said and start a fight over them. I just couldn't do it anymore.
Sounds like a reasonable thing to do. She has to want to change before she can actually change, and nobody needs to spend all day fighting about miscommunication.
 
Sounds like a reasonable thing to do. She has to want to change before she can actually change, and nobody needs to spend all day fighting about miscommunication.

That's why I backed out. Our last fight wasn't big either. I didn't engage. Just told her I couldn't do it anymore. I'm heartbroken, as is she, but things just don't work out.

She was angry with me for not being physically affectionate anymore, but she had stopped caring about her appearance altogether. No more shaving, she stopped doing anything with her hair and only wears baggy mens t-shirts, even when we go out for dinner. I just couldn't be with someone who didn't care about themselves.
 
That's why I backed out. Our last fight wasn't big either. I didn't engage. Just told her I couldn't do it anymore. I'm heartbroken, as is she, but things just don't work out.

She was angry with me for not being physically affectionate anymore, but she had stopped caring about her appearance altogether. No more shaving, she stopped doing anything with her hair and only wears baggy mens t-shirts, even when we go out for dinner. I just couldn't be with someone who didn't care about themselves.
That...pretty much describes me, since I've never had a job that required me do anything with my hair or wear nice clothes. :oldrazz: Since we work from home, both of us mostly spend most of the day in our PJs. :funny: We care more about the status of our minds than the status of our bodies.

I guess my husband "tolerates" it since I'm easy-going and I let him do whatever. And I think I actually look pretty decent even when I've just rolled out of bed, but he's also honestly not that picky about grooming. -shrug- I guess I should count myself lucky then, that personality counts more with him than appearance does?

I still choose to believe that it was her misunderstandings and your financial issues that were more at play, more than her appearance. You don't suddenly turn off your physical affections "because" she's stopped shaving. (You CHOOSE not to hug her when you could have.) You were upset with her before, and the laziness just added to the list.

Otherwise you look like a jerk who broke up with your gf because she wasn't meticulously groomed enough for you anymore. :o
 
Congratulations on achieving I have a boyfriendness!
I hope you guys are happy for a very long time.

i'm finally caught up in this thread.
congrats to hopeful

Thanks :)

Though it's weird... I don't feel like congrats are in order.

TBH, I still feel single. I'm not convinced this is going to develop into much more than it is... I just didn't want to call it 'friends' for once. So i'm happy I at least get to add someone to my list of ACTUAL boyfriends instead of just guys I was sleeping with.

But the enthusiasm is still pretty low from me on the inside.

Just broke up with my girlfriend. I told her we should take a break and do that trial separation thing, but I don't see us ever getting back together. A series of insurmountable problems led to this. She didn't respect me and she doesn't respect herself, which would lead to daily fights. She would regularly mishear things I said and start a fight over them. I just couldn't do it anymore.

That's why I backed out. Our last fight wasn't big either. I didn't engage. Just told her I couldn't do it anymore. I'm heartbroken, as is she, but things just don't work out.

She was angry with me for not being physically affectionate anymore, but she had stopped caring about her appearance altogether. No more shaving, she stopped doing anything with her hair and only wears baggy mens t-shirts, even when we go out for dinner. I just couldn't be with someone who didn't care about themselves.

Sorry to hear that :(

Definitely sounds like she was unhappy, and that it's more her issues that are causing that.

Do you think she is depressed?
 
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