The Relationship Thread: Because Superhero Forums are Full of Sexperts! - - - - - - - - - Part 28

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Also, you explained what happened during sex, I didn't see you explain what you were doing to help him get up sexually. It was all work from his part. What he was doing to you. You could do stuff to him until he gets up.

Whenever I initiate, I initiate with giving head first. And considering that I initiate almost all of the sexual encounters, that's plenty.

He wanted sex, he was horny after making me come. But his body wasn't doing what he wanted it to.

I said 'Is there anything I can do?', and he said 'Not now, maybe in a while' so it was clear to me that any attempt to try and MAKE his body respond would only lead to more pressure on him and more of a feeling of failure.

It is most definitely not my fault that he is having erection problems :whatever:
 
But literally... what do you say?

'So, do you have a low sex drive?'

'So... how come we don't have sex more?'

What answer can he give to that?

Surely those questions don't have simple answers and would therefore just create an uncomfortable and awkward lack of conversation with empty reassurances and excuses.

Really tricky situation. Because I guess the fear is that talking about it makes it worse.
 
Whenever I initiate, I initiate with giving head first. And considering that I initiate almost all of the sexual encounters, that's plenty.

He wanted sex, he was horny after making me come. But his body wasn't doing what he wanted it to.

I said 'Is there anything I can do?', and he said 'Not now, maybe in a while' so it was clear to me that any attempt to try and MAKE his body respond would only lead to more pressure on him and more of a feeling of failure.

It is most definitely not my fault that he is having erection problems :whatever:

Sounds like you are doing everything you can. Forgive me as a newcomer, how long have you been together?
 
I mean, he never tells me I look nice. Never tells me i'm beautiful or sexy. He has once said he loves my eyes, but only when ASKED.

And I don't mind that neccesarily.

Mmmm, yeah you do. Everyone minds that.

It plain old sounds like you two are both not communicating very well and not very sexually compatible. It might not even be a personal slight against you. Some people just have a low libido, or NO libido. If the infrequency of sex is a problem, you have to lay it on the table. It might cause things to blow up, but if it's not going to work, then it's not going to work and it might as well end anyway. Of course, go the positive language route first, but if that doesn't work, if that doesn't make him snap to how important this is to you, you have to buck up and be honest that this is a relationship ending level issue. Better to potentially end it now than wake up in 5 years and you're having sex like 3 times a year.
 
Well he initiated sex last night, which at least tells me that he DID know what was going on the night before, and he wanted to make up for it.

However, he got really stoned before working up the courage to do it. And then couldn't get a full erection... I mean, he gave me head so it's not like it was a total wasted effort :funny:, but I think it's upsetting him more and more each time something like this happens... and I just don't know what to do about it.

I'm not sure if he was even aware of it at first cause he just carried on like normal, but because it wasn't fully hard it was kind of uncomfortable. Then eventually he completely lost it anyway.
I actually have experience with this, because for the first month or so (yes, month) that we tried to have sex, my husband would have this problem. He would try to have a bit of wine (not much so I don't think it was the alcohol) to take the edge off before we would try, and it wouldn't help. He was just putting too much pressure on himself.

What you do, is that you DO NOT make it a big deal. I didn't pout that he didn't think I was hot, I didn't act disappointed, I didn't laugh at him. Even "How can I help?" is putting pressure on him, because you're implying that something's wrong with him and you need to fix it.

I was just like, "Let's just enjoy being together then, we have plenty of time to figure this out." And eventually he got comfortable around me and he very rarely has this issue now. One month of patience and understanding, in exchange for 5 years of an extremely supportive partner who always aims to please me, I think that's a good deal. :word:

I like to think that I was the most awesome woman he had ever been with, and that's why he was so nervous at first. :awesome: Even though I was a virgin so it wasn't like I would have known anything else. :funny:

Women do not have to "perform" with something during sex that is completely unconscious on their part. So you have to start with his stress level and general mentality. If he KNOWS that you are not happy with the way sex is going lately, that is a negative feedback loop he can't get out of. When he tries to have sex with you, he can't perform. So he tries/initiates sex rarely, because he doesn't want that reminder. Then you're upset you don't have sex, then it's more pressure on him every time you DO have sex, then he can't get it up...repeat ad nauseum. I'm not surprised at all that he's having trouble and avoiding sex, if that is how it usually goes. So you guys have to break that loop.

It will take patience, and it will take understanding. Maybe it will take more patience than you have, but my experience is, it's possible to work through this, and it's up to you decide whether he's worth the effort to you.

I think making effort with physical appearance and hygiene DOES make a difference. Because it makes a difference to me for sure.

If someone's breath smells or they have BO it's a turn off. If someone's hair is greasy, it's a turn off. If someone just throws on clothes with holes in or clothes that could do with a wash cause they don't really care what they look like... it's a turn off.

And I think I can be guilt of not making enough effort in that department sometimes, so i'm gonna make sure I at least always have clean hair, brushed teeth, nice (or at least clean) clothes and a bit of make up on my face so I don't look like a tired wreck.
Different strokes for different folks, really. For my husband, nothing seems to stop him once I get his imagination going. It doesn't matter what I wear, what my state of grooming is. I tell him what I want us to do....then that's it. :jedi

Whereas for me, anything with unhygienic bodily fluids is gross (and I'm not talking about sweat here...) and I don't want anything to do with that. And if I pounce on him in the morning and his breath is bad, I just don't kiss him. :oldrazz:

And I actually want to avoid makeup during the deed, because I do pass out afterwards and then the pillow is a huge mess. :funny:

You do want to find out what gets HIM going, not necessarily what gets you going. Because that may be different, and you want to make sure whatever you're doing will have the most bang for your buck.
 
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trust me if the man wants it bad enough he'll make sure he gets it. They have pills at the corner store for 5 bucks and trust me those things work.so I mean there are other ways to make sure that you get up for the occasion and you don't have to take them every single time you could just take them once and then once you get the nervousness out of your system you should be ok to perform whenever you want after that, at least for my experience
 
At my bachelor party, the women did a lot more than I remembered. But let's say the "assertive stuff" wasn't the turn on but when they worked the ear or neck area.
 
Mmmm, yeah you do. Everyone minds that.

No it's honestly something I can live without.

For instance, I dyed my hair last night right in front of him, got out of the shower, dryed it, and then kept fluffing it up and looking at him suggestively - to which he was completely oblivious. So I said 'well, what do you think' and he's like 'yeah, looks alright, can't really see much difference in this light' so I laughed, shook my head and said 'you're really not good with compliments are you' and he said 'yeah, sorry, i'm a bit of a compliment ******'.

That's fine. It fits with what I know about him.

But on the other hand, he is, in emotional situations, capable of giving great compliments.

When I was crying because of the death of yet another friend and the people from my home town are just so messed up - he comforted me by telling me that where I come from and the fact that I made it out, showed just how strong I was.

That compliment he MEANT.

And I find that much more important that the every day 'you look nice in that dress' comments.

It plain old sounds like you two are both not communicating very well and not very sexually compatible. It might not even be a personal slight against you. Some people just have a low libido, or NO libido. If the infrequency of sex is a problem, you have to lay it on the table. It might cause things to blow up, but if it's not going to work, then it's not going to work and it might as well end anyway. Of course, go the positive language route first, but if that doesn't work, if that doesn't make him snap to how important this is to you, you have to buck up and be honest that this is a relationship ending level issue. Better to potentially end it now than wake up in 5 years and you're having sex like 3 times a year.

I think the problem is that we are too similar.

We both have the same level of experience in this area and are therefore both needing improved confidence... but are kind of incapable of giving this to each other.

I mean, if I was with a more sexually aggressive person, i'd be more confident about exploring all sorts of things. But because he seems kind of unsure about things himself, i'm less confident about suggestions.

I actually have experience with this, because for the first month or so (yes, month) that we tried to have sex, my husband would have this problem. He would try to have a bit of wine (not much so I don't think it was the alcohol) to take the edge off before we would try, and it wouldn't help. He was just putting too much pressure on himself.

What you do, is that you DO NOT make it a big deal. I didn't pout that he didn't think I was hot, I didn't act disappointed, I didn't laugh at him. Even "How can I help?" is putting pressure on him, because you're implying that something's wrong with him and you need to fix it.

I was just like, "Let's just enjoy being together then, we have plenty of time to figure this out." And eventually he got comfortable around me and he very rarely has this issue now. One month of patience and understanding, in exchange for 5 years of an extremely supportive partner who always aims to please me, I think that's a good deal. :word:

Oh I definitely already do this.

I didn't say 'how can I help?' just like that. He apologizes a lot and I always tell him 'No, that was great, don't worry about it/don't be silly'. He was obviously bothered by it, he was laying with his head on my chest and repeated for a second time 'well at least you enjoyed it' as though he was trying to console himself. And I just said 'Oh I wish I could help' because I just feel so helpless about it.

But i've never tried to put his issues down to lack of attraction to me, i've never acted disappointed or laughed at him (who would do that? :hehe:).

I've had too much experience of sleeping with medicated people in the past to be that bothered by erection issues myself, especially if it's not ALL the time.

I mean, we've had plenty of successful sex.

I like to think that I was the most awesome woman he had ever been with, and that's why he was so nervous at first. :awesome: Even though I was a virgin so it wasn't like I would have known anything else. :funny:

Women do not have to "perform" with something during sex that is completely unconscious on their part. So you have to start with his stress level and general mentality. If he KNOWS that you are not happy with the way sex is going lately, that is a negative feedback loop he can't get out of. When he tries to have sex with you, he can't perform. So he tries/initiates sex rarely, because he doesn't want that reminder. Then you're upset you don't have sex, then it's more pressure on him every time you DO have sex, then he can't get it up...repeat ad nauseum. I'm not surprised at all that he's having trouble and avoiding sex, if that is how it usually goes. So you guys have to break that loop.

It will take patience, and it will take understanding. Maybe it will take more patience than you have, but my experience is, it's possible to work through this, and it's up to you decide whether he's worth the effort to you.

That's exactly why I don't want to have a conversation about the issue unless I absolutely have to.

Cause it'll just cause more problems in that area.

Different strokes for different folks, really. For my husband, nothing seems to stop him once I get his imagination going. It doesn't matter what I wear, what my state of grooming is. I tell him what I want us to do....then that's it. :jedi

Whereas for me, anything with unhygienic bodily fluids is gross (and I'm not talking about sweat here...) and I don't want anything to do with that. And if I pounce on him in the morning and his breath is bad, I just don't kiss him. :oldrazz:

And I actually want to avoid makeup during the deed, because I do pass out afterwards and then the pillow is a huge mess. :funny:

You do want to find out what gets HIM going, not necessarily what gets you going. Because that may be different, and you want to make sure whatever you're doing will have the most bang for your buck.

Yeah, that's definitely something I will try and bring up when I have a bit of dutch courage in my system at some point.

Maybe if I can find out a bit more about what he'd like to try and do it, he'll start being more confident in doing the things i've discussed. And I think the more we're doing that a sex becomes better, the more interested in it he'll be.

I mean, at the moment, the sex is just kind of bog standard and even a bit lazy. So maybe that's why he can take it or leave it.

Trust me if the man wants it bad enough he'll make sure he gets it. They have pills at the corner store for 5 bucks and trust me those things work.so I mean there are other ways to make sure that you get up for the occasion and you don't have to take them every single time you could just take them once and then once you get the nervousness out of your system you should be ok to perform whenever you want after that, at least for my experience

I really don't want him to get viagra...
 
I think the problem is that we are too similar.

We both have the same level of experience in this area and are therefore both needing improved confidence... but are kind of incapable of giving this to each other.

I mean, if I was with a more sexually aggressive person, i'd be more confident about exploring all sorts of things. But because he seems kind of unsure about things himself, i'm less confident about suggestions.
I think you're actually insecure about different things, but it manifests into the same issue - hangups about sex.

He seems to be insecure about making you happy, while you seem to be insecure about how sexy you are or if what you're doing is normal or....something of that like.

Oh I definitely already do this.

I didn't say 'how can I help?' just like that. He apologizes a lot and I always tell him 'No, that was great, don't worry about it/don't be silly'. He was obviously bothered by it, he was laying with his head on my chest and repeated for a second time 'well at least you enjoyed it' as though he was trying to console himself. And I just said 'Oh I wish I could help' because I just feel so helpless about it.

But i've never tried to put his issues down to lack of attraction to me, i've never acted disappointed or laughed at him (who would do that? :hehe:).

I've had too much experience of sleeping with medicated people in the past to be that bothered by erection issues myself, especially if it's not ALL the time.

I mean, we've had plenty of successful sex.


That's exactly why I don't want to have a conversation about the issue unless I absolutely have to.

Cause it'll just cause more problems in that area.
Well the sex itself isn't the underlying issue - it's the insecurity. You can certainly talk about that. At least let each other know you're aware of each other's insecurities and you're okay with it. That helps a lot, actually, letting each other know you're aware. It helps to let each other be open and understanding.
 
After my last date failed I'm taking a break from dating. I'm back to trucking and working out after. I will be sober because i would never truck drunk. I see now if I build myself, the right woman will come along, but for now it's time to work and workout.
 
What happened to joining the military?
 
My girlfriend really wants me to have a career... or rather a back up career. Because shes concerned that when we get married, have kids, buy a house ect. We wont be able to live the life she wants to. (Which is essentially NOT pay cheque to pay cheque)

So, I started to consider possibly becoming a fire fighter, and going back to school for Pre-Service fire fighting training. I joined a forum for fire fighters and got advice, read some of their stories and examples and I'm still interested but not completely convinced its what I want to do with my life, despite the fact that it would make her happy.

On the flip side, I really am happy with my current job as a window cleaner. I make good money, I'm very close with my bosses, and I enjoy it.

She says she'd be fine if I kept my current job, but I don't actually think she means it. And its kind of stressful to me to constantly be trying to think up another career that would require me to go back to school.

Is it unfair of her to ask this of me? Without actually having the knowledge of what we would need financially for our hypothetical future?
 
How old are you and is there room for advancement as a window cleaner?
 
I'm in a weird place where I have a crush on a guy in my class and we somehow became great friends, but I can't help but flirt. Must control impulses.
 
How old are you and is there room for advancement as a window cleaner?


I'm twenty-five, I'm now old enough to be insured as company driver, so that should result in a raise. On average though, we get anywhere from .50 cents to dollar raise each year.
 
Do you see yourself as a 45 year old window cleaner?

I understand not necessarily agree with your gf. She's looking for some sort of security. Probably, benefits and retirement plan.
 
I'm twenty-five, I'm now old enough to be insured as company driver, so that should result in a raise. On average though, we get anywhere from .50 cents to dollar raise each year.


What province do you live in?

Also, when you talk about the life that your girlfriend wants to live, what does that mean exactly? Is she looking to go on vacations a lot and get a fancy, expensive engagement ring?

As for buying a house, I don't know a single person that was able to do it without borrowing money from their parents. Paying the mortgage is fine, but coming up with a $30,000-$60,000 downpayment is not easy and it takes a lot of time. What kind of support do you and your girlfriend have? Would any of your parents be willing to lend you some cash?

Do you make enough money in your current job to afford a mortgage? Say about $2000-$2500 a month with taxes and utilities?
 
Do you see yourself as a 45 year old window cleaner?

I understand not necessarily agree with your gf. She's looking for some sort of security. Probably, benefits and retirement plan.

We're both covered by here benefits, and as far was retirement I've been paying into a pension plan since I was 17, and my work has a RRSP where my employer matches what we put into it each pay.

Though, I agree I don't necessarily want to stay a window cleaner. I just don't know what else I really want to do. All my interest and skills don't really leaned themselves to many careers.



What province do you live in?

Ontario.

Also, when you talk about the life that your girlfriend wants to live, what does that mean exactly? Is she looking to go on vacations a lot and get a fancy, expensive engagement ring?

She's really just worried about not living pay by pay, like many of our friends and family. But she does want to be able to afford a house, have maybe two children, and go on the occasional family vacation.

She has no bases to think we'd be able to afford other wise, considering the examples she has used to make herself worried, consist of alcoholics, single income families, cash wasters.

Between the two of us, I think we average about 70,000 a year.

As for buying a house, I don't know a single person that was able to do it without borrowing money from their parents. Paying the mortgage is fine, but coming up with a $30,000-$60,000 downpayment is not easy and it takes a lot of time. What kind of support do you and your girlfriend have? Would any of your parents be willing to lend you some cash?

She'd have better support from her parents then I would from mine. They could potentially aid us in the down payment.


Do you make enough money in your current job to afford a mortgage? Say about $2000-$2500 a month with taxes and utilities?

When we lived in Toronto, and I was making minimum wage, our rent was near $1800 and we were living comfortably. But that was without utilities, or land taxes.
 
It'd be a lot harder doing a career change when you have a mortgage.
 
Ideally, you'd have a job that would be able to account for both.
 
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