The Relationship Thread: Because Superhero Forums are Full of Sexperts!

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Let me rephrase: Most of the guys that I asked.

Eh, the point still remains. If you're willing to "do the equivalent" for her, this shouldn't be a big deal. It's just skin and flesh. The other for her is much less sanitary. It's a mental thing that some guys need to just get over.
 
I guess it depends on the guy, most of the guys I know say they think it's gross.
And some guys don't care if things are somewhat gross in the heat of the moment. As long as you don't remind them later. :funny:
 
I haven't been active in years and was not that good to begin with. I'm worried when I am again that it's totally bad and I'm laughed at. I guess I have to start somewhere. lol.
 
It's not like people are born with that kind of talent. :oldrazz: And it's not even practice either - it's mostly being attuned to what your partner likes. You can even tell them what you like or ask them what they like. It isn't rocket science.
 
It's not like people are born with that kind of talent. :oldrazz: And it's not even practice either - it's mostly being attuned to what your partner likes. You can even tell them what you like or ask them what they like. It isn't rocket science.

Yea but most girls expect you to know, and if you do ask, then they see that as you sucking.

And not the pleasurable sort of sucking.
 
That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm trying to find a quiet librarian type of woman with little experience like myself, who sex might not be as big a deal.
 
I realized today that I want someone who adores me as much as I adore her. Unless her feelings REALLY change, I'm done. She's my best friend, but, nothing more. Now granted I'm sixteen and in a week I could be whining about it again, but even so. For now, I'm uninterested unless she really realizes what I could be for her and falls in love with me. Because, I'm actually a pretty decent person. Somewhere out there there's a girl that can make me as happy as she does AND be made happy by being my girlfriend. And, she'll always be around as my best friend. Maybe that's enough for me.

I'm just going to say it, not you're not a decent person. You're also not a true friend, saying you aren't interested in her is just you lying to yourself. Going out with her and her boyfriend and thinking it's awesome how jealous he is and that he thinks of you as a threat means you're not a decent person. You're really only being nice to her and being her "friend" because you want to get in her pants. You're in high school, find someone else, someone who isn't taken already. Don't try and become friends, go straight into trying to date. I know you'll say I'm wrong and you and your situation is different, but it's really not. Until you're interested in someone else romantically, you're not a true friend to this girl, just a guy waiting and hoping she'll one day let you in her pants.
 
I'm just going to say it, not you're not a decent person. You're also not a true friend, saying you aren't interested in her is just you lying to yourself. Going out with her and her boyfriend and thinking it's awesome how jealous he is and that he thinks of you as a threat means you're not a decent person. You're really only being nice to her and being her "friend" because you want to get in her pants. You're in high school, find someone else, someone who isn't taken already. Don't try and become friends, go straight into trying to date. I know you'll say I'm wrong and you and your situation is different, but it's really not. Until you're interested in someone else romantically, you're not a true friend to this girl, just a guy waiting and hoping she'll one day let you in her pants.
Yeah, that.
 
I'm just going to say it, not you're not a decent person. You're also not a true friend, saying you aren't interested in her is just you lying to yourself. Going out with her and her boyfriend and thinking it's awesome how jealous he is and that he thinks of you as a threat means you're not a decent person. You're really only being nice to her and being her "friend" because you want to get in her pants. You're in high school, find someone else, someone who isn't taken already. Don't try and become friends, go straight into trying to date. I know you'll say I'm wrong and you and your situation is different, but it's really not. Until you're interested in someone else romantically, you're not a true friend to this girl, just a guy waiting and hoping she'll one day let you in her pants.

Did I mention I'm waiting til marriage to have sex?..:dry: And did you see the part where I said we've been best friends for four years? What kind of desperate crazy person would stick around for four years if he was only in the friendship for potential physicality and all he wanted was to get in her pants? I don't know anyone like that, and especially not me.

And now your argument is invalid, but I appreciate your concern and constructive criticism. Cool username btw.
 
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Wait... You guys think it's gross to kiss a girl who's just 'done you a favour'?

I do. My friends disagree.

I've never come across that before. Seriously. Especially when half the time, favours come as a pre cursor to the final act, and you can't have a final act without some good kisses.

I wouldn't want her to kiss me in that situation, but if she was alright with me kissing her after I'd done the deed, I wouldn't have a problem with it.
 
Everyone saying they do would be the first person to kiss afterwards.
 
I haven't been active in years and was not that good to begin with. I'm worried when I am again that it's totally bad and I'm laughed at. I guess I have to start somewhere. lol.

It's not like people are born with that kind of talent. :oldrazz: And it's not even practice either - it's mostly being attuned to what your partner likes. You can even tell them what you like or ask them what they like. It isn't rocket science.

Yea but most girls expect you to know, and if you do ask, then they see that as you sucking.

And not the pleasurable sort of sucking.

That's what I'm saying. That's why I'm trying to find a quiet librarian type of woman with little experience like myself, who sex might not be as big a deal.

Pay attention to her and read her body language. If you are kissing her neck and she keeps pulling away, move on to another body part.

If you touch her a certain way and her breathing changes or she gasps or grabs you in a good way, keep going.
 
Pay attention to her and read her body language. If you are kissing her neck and she keeps pulling away, move on to another body part.

If you touch her a certain way and her breathing changes or she gasps or grabs you in a good way, keep going.
Seriously. It's really just as simple as that.
 
You can add verbal to that and it works both ways. Does that feel good? I like that. Softer. Harder.
 
Yeah, she's not your hand fellas, you gotta pay attention.
 
I think it's gross. :barf::barf::barf:

I don't think I could kiss a girl after she's done that to me. Especially if... well... you know.

Then I hope no girl ever does that to you.

Seriously, what are you guys expecting? That a girl do you a favour, then thoroughly brush her teeth before you continue on?

Or just continue on but keep that smelly mouth away from me!

:funny:

I'm just not used to this. Most the guys I know (and most the porn i've watched/read) treat tastes as arousing. Both hers, and even your own on her lips.

But of course, I've never had it happen to me before, so I've never been in the situation :( I had a girl tell me she enjoyed doing said act, and I asked her to do it to me, but she didn't.

Even worse was the fact that I had done the equivalent act on her but she never returned the favor :(

Yeah that's pretty harsh. I'd never let a guy do me a favour and refuse to do him one back :csad:

Eh, the point still remains. If you're willing to "do the equivalent" for her, this shouldn't be a big deal. It's just skin and flesh. The other for her is much less sanitary. It's a mental thing that some guys need to just get over.

I used to have a mental thing against someone doing me a favour, because it seemed so gross to me. It took me a while to accept that a lot of guys really like doing it and find that part of the body sexy.

And some guys don't care if things are somewhat gross in the heat of the moment. As long as you don't remind them later. :funny:

Yup. And there are WAYYYYYYY grosser things that can happen in sex than kissing after a favour :hehe:

Yea but most girls expect you to know, and if you do ask, then they see that as you sucking.

And not the pleasurable sort of sucking.

I figure once your in a loving relationship, that's when you can actually start talking about how you really like things.

But I think making someone feel like they are doing it wrong the first time is probably a bad idea, yeah.

I'm just going to say it, not you're not a decent person. You're also not a true friend, saying you aren't interested in her is just you lying to yourself. Going out with her and her boyfriend and thinking it's awesome how jealous he is and that he thinks of you as a threat means you're not a decent person. You're really only being nice to her and being her "friend" because you want to get in her pants. You're in high school, find someone else, someone who isn't taken already. Don't try and become friends, go straight into trying to date. I know you'll say I'm wrong and you and your situation is different, but it's really not. Until you're interested in someone else romantically, you're not a true friend to this girl, just a guy waiting and hoping she'll one day let you in her pants.

I think that's bull.

Admitting to a moment of 'weakness' where you did enjoy getting a little rise out of her boyfriend who you don't particularly like, does NOT make you a bad person.

It just makes you human.

I don't know the first thing about their friendship, but I know that no one in their right mind sticks around for 4 years JUST because they 'want to get in their pants'. They do it because they like spending time with that person, have a real friendship with them and truly care about them enough to wanna be around even when sex isn't on the table.

F**kin' prudes. :o

Innit!

Pay attention to her and read her body language. If you are kissing her neck and she keeps pulling away, move on to another body part.

If you touch her a certain way and her breathing changes or she gasps or grabs you in a good way, keep going.

Seriously. It's really just as simple as that.

Unless you fake it.

I know it's totally pointless, and I don't know why I do it. But sometimes, fake noises just come out because I find I can be pretty numb/unreactive and I think that must be such a turn off that I try and make noises at what I think are the right times to please the guy.
 
I think that's bull.

Admitting to a moment of 'weakness' where you did enjoy getting a little rise out of her boyfriend who you don't particularly like, does NOT make you a bad person.

It just makes you human.

I don't know the first thing about their friendship, but I know that no one in their right mind sticks around for 4 years JUST because they 'want to get in their pants'. They do it because they like spending time with that person, have a real friendship with them and truly care about them enough to wanna be around even when sex isn't on the table.

You weren't kidding when you said you'd defend me if someone gave me jip! :woot:


Best friend!:hrt: :oldrazz:
 
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