Then I hope no girl ever does that to you.
Seriously, what are you guys expecting? That a girl do you a favour, then thoroughly brush her teeth before you continue on?
I mean... at least pop a breath mint?
I'm just not used to this. Most the guys I know (and most the porn i've watched/read) treat tastes as arousing. Both hers, and even your own on her lips.
I get grossed out when I watch a porn and the dude kisses the girl after his stuff has been in her mouth. I'm just like DUUUUDDDEEE!!! NOOO!!!!!
But like I said, maybe where I'm in the situation where she... gives me a favor... I won't care as much? It's easy to say something when I've never been in the situation.
that's pretty harsh. I'd never let a guy do me a favour and refuse to do him one back
Yea, it was the 19 year old that I hooked up with at the end of last year.
Admittedly it wasn't ALL just her being a selfish trick...
See... I don't know if I've told the story on here or not of why I didn't get laid that night. I know Erz tried to get it out of me for quite some time and I never told because I was embarrassed. Still am. But it's like... 9 months after the fact now (crap I can't believe it's been that long already).
After the whole... as my friend put it... "verbal foreplay" between us, giving each other the verbal jabs back and forth, and after it became clear that her and I both wanted it to happen and I made my move, we obviously started fooling around and I went down on her. While I was doing the deed, but before I went "all in", I noticed blood on her sheets. And then I noticed some of it on her leg. And just after I noticed it, she noticed it.
See... what had happened was...
I texted her that afternoon, and after a bit of text flirting, she told me she had to go to work... but wanted to know what I was doing later that night, and maybe I could come over. So unlike the first time she asked me over, I say yes this time... cuz... well as non-decent a person as this makes me out to be, I regretted not going to her place the first time when I turned her down cuz of the whole boyfriend ordeal.
But while I was waiting for her to text me to come over, I decided to do some dishes. And I started scrubbing a glass. And while I was scrubbing said glass, I heard a "pop", and immediately watched as the water started running red.
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Well in typical Nell fashion, my first response wasn't "ow, there's a shard of glass that has just ripped open my flesh", my first response was "crap... I'm not gonna get laid tonight."
Well sure enough... I didn't get laid that night. With all the friction of her and I fooling around, my wound ripped back open and started bleeding all over the place. Not just a little blood. Like... full on bleeding all over her sheets, and yes, on her as well.
Obviously, blood and an open wound is a no go for sex, so both her and I were like "done!", she put her clothes back on and cleaned me up, and we spent the rest of our time just laying sorta cuddling on her bed until I went home.
It was the next time I went over to her place like the next weekend, where she told me I wasn't going to get any that night (because she was on her period), but that her and I would get together later in the week for sex (which never happened) that she told me how much she loved giving beejers, and I said even though she's on her period, she could do that for me, but she said no she wasn't going to do that that night either. Instead, we cuddled, made out, and groped around for a bit, but she never went down on me
But unfortunately, I still have the scar on my hand to always remind me for the rest of my life of the night I didn't get laid
And now I've told the story, and I'm totally embarrassed
I figure once your in a loving relationship, that's when you can actually start talking about how you really like things.
Yea. Although, even though her and I never had sex, I still wonder if me trying to talk to my ex-girlfriend about sex, and wanting to progress the relationship physically, put too much pressure on her and led to the breakup.
But then at the same time, I was very specific to tell her and show her that I wanted to be with her for more than just sex, and that the relationship was much more than just sex for me. So if she thought I was just pressing to get sex out of her, then that's probably her own issue.
I'm just going to say it, not you're not a decent person. You're also not a true friend, saying you aren't interested in her is just you lying to yourself. Going out with her and her boyfriend and thinking it's awesome how jealous he is and that he thinks of you as a threat means you're not a decent person. You're really only being nice to her and being her "friend" because you want to get in her pants. You're in high school, find someone else, someone who isn't taken already. Don't try and become friends, go straight into trying to date. I know you'll say I'm wrong and you and your situation is different, but it's really not. Until you're interested in someone else romantically, you're not a true friend to this girl, just a guy waiting and hoping she'll one day let you in her pants.
I don't necessarily think AF is off base.
I mean webhead seems to be back and forth saying "I need to move on" and then say, "she hasn't realized her true feelings yet".
I know what it's like to have unrequited love and settling for friendship. I mean it's high school but still, he still has an ulterior motive and he hasn't moved past that. Does that make him human, of course. Does that make him a decent guy? Not so much.
And this is the kind of stuff I'm talking about; vilifying a guy because god forbid he have feelings for a girl he knows and has a friendship with.