The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Scene Gwen Stacey Died - Part 2

[Picard Sisko]

But it's also night time in both scenes isn't it?.

Yeah, but every day turns into night, so that still doesn't confirm much.

 

[Airnick]

Yeah, but every day turns into night, so that still doesn't confirm much.

True lol.

 

[GuestStar2004]

The TV screen has to do with Times Square…

The background matches the rhino scene and the crowd is around in the rhino set pictures so its very likely the news report isn't related to that footage

 

[sl500jazz]

Most people tend to wear the same coat each day though, so that doesn't really confirm anything.

But the same scarf and the same hairstyle when Gwen goes through umpteen different outfits in one movie? The girl has like an infinite collection of coats. IMO those scenes are definitely related.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Seven Web Head's latest video about Gwen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8pVd0WafcE&feature=youtu.be

 

[Naite22]

He's also just revealed that a 3'rd trailer (running at 2:23 minutes) will soon be released. I still say it's gonna be with Cap-A 2 in mid-march

 

[UltimateWebhead]

He's also just revealed that a 3'rd trailer (running at 2:23 minutes) will soon be released. I still say it's gonna be with Cap-A 2 in mid-march

Honestly, I hope this is the case.

 

[Super Jim]

There is almost no doubt that the date scene leads directly to the Time's Square scene. The fact that Gwen and Peter notice something off in the distance and then Gwen, wearing the exact same outfit from the date (scarf and all), mouthing the whole Max thing, substantiates this.

So, we know this...

- Max's Accident
- Date Scene
- Time's Square

We can also surmise that both the elevator scene and the Aleskei chase scene (where Max gets saved) happen prior, though we're not 100% sure which is first. It does make more sense that Max is saved during the Aleskei car chase scene first, and then the elevator scene happens, which likely leads to his accident.

So, that would make it:

- Aleskei Armored Car Chase Scene
- Gwen/Max Elevator Scene
- Max's Accident
- Date Scene
- Time's Square

So the only real question we have pertaining to this is whether Aleskei/Rhino is one longer scene, or two scenes. For it to be one scene he would need to be pulled from the armored car, shoot at Spidey, get webbed and embarrased, get free from the web somehow, get to the mech, and create mayham.

The two scene scenerio, which seems to make a little more sense, would have his scene stop after Spidey webs him and embarrases him. He would likely end up in Ravenscroft. Then later in the movie he would need to escape, or be freed, and then get to the mech and start the second scene of mayham.

So, can we use the pictures to determine if it's one scene or two?

So, with the shot of the Rhino Mech and Spidey using the man hole cover, is that Oscorp in the background?

Got to admit, the one thing that bugs me is the scene where Max is at home with all of the pics of Spiderman on his wall. Assuming this fascination happened after he met Spiderman (Spidey saved his life), then the timing does become difficult.

We know the Gwen/Max elevator scene happens prior to his accident, which likely happens after the armored car chase scene, so when would this at home scene happen?...

 

[Picard Sisko]

I'm assuming the elevator scene happens shortly after Max gets saved… and sometime afterwards he grows an "obsession" and we see him putting Spider-Man clippings on his wall.

 

[Super Jim]

Ok, so could it be like this...

- Aleskei Armored Car Chase Scene (Max gets saved)
- Elevator Scene (are they going up or down? - meaning to work, or home?)
- The laundry and/or chimney scene
- Max's House Scene (with the Spidey pictures on the wall)
- Max's Accident Scene
- The Date Scene
- Time's Square

So, would Max be at his house and something causes him to go back to work, which leads to the accident.

I put the laundry and/or chimney scene between the elevator and the Max's apartment as we would need some sort of break inbetween. I guess it could be the Harry Osborn stuff at this point, since I have a feeling that it (and possibly him confronting Aunt May and finding Dad's Lair) comes before Max's accident. Maybe not, but I just have that feeling since everything post Time's Square seems darker...

 

[Airnick]

When do you think the rhino fight will happen Super Jim?.

 

[Super Jim]

I definitely feel that the armored car chase scene will happen early in the movie. It may even be one of the first scenes.

What I'm caught on is whether there will be two Rhino scenes, or one extended one. Meaning, after we see Aleskei webbed with his pants down, does he escape, grab a power cell (my belief is that he stole the power cell to fuel his mech suit), get to his mech, and then reattack Spiderman et al? Or, does Aleskei get hauled off to jail or Ravenscroft (if he's just a thug, as it appears, why would they put him in Ravenscroft?), the movie goes on, and then at some point mid-movie he escapes, gets to his mech, and causes mayham. I can see the pros and cons of both of these, so I'm torn...

 

[Super Jim]

Also in this regard, since we know we'll see Ranvenscroft in this movie, will we go there with Aleskei or Max?

It could be that Spidey ends up taking Electro down during the Time's Square scene, which ends up with him in Ravenscroft (a regular jail cell wouldn't be able to handle Electro). He ends up escaping and somehow ends up with Harry, either at Oscorp or at Ravenscroft (Oscorp makes more sense), which is where his power gets amped and he gets his suit. Once the amping process is complete, Electro leaves (somehow Harry gets hurt in the process) which leads to the bridge and/or power facility scenes. My best guess is that Harry is convinced by his father to get Electro all amped up, and when Electro revolts (for lack of a better term) it leads to Harry undergoing the Goblin process, as he wants to get Electro back, needs power, and is worried about disappointing his father.

Lots of speculation.

But again, the mech scene and whether it is separate or not is really bugging me!

 

[Picard Sisko]

The chase sequence and Rhino battles are not the same scenes, I can tell you that much. He gets caught at the end of the chase sequence, so he more than likely gets taken away to prison.

 

[Super Jim]

I tend to agree with you, but something to think about...

Spiderman saves Max from a flying yellow taxi cab. Then in the scene where we see the missle (that must have come from the Rhino mech) we see an upturned yellow taxi car. Also, at time 0:43 in the sizzle, when Spidey and Max are having the whole "you're my eyes and ears" dialog, you can see a yellow taxi behind Spidey that is upside down.

Spidey does swing away, and an upturned cab isn't a major piece of evidence, but it is the first thing that I have found that could tie the armored car scene and the Rhino mech scene together.

When Max is saved he is wearing a brown jacket with his gray uniform under.

In the elevator scene Max is wearing a grayish-blueish shirt with a dark gray vest. This does seem to suggest that the elevator is from a different day than the armored car chase. Also, Gwen is wearing her yellow jacket with a blue and white striped shirt.

And the scene where Max has his accident he appears to be wearing the same clothes that he was in the elevator, with the addition of a gray or tan Oscorp jacket. It is likely that the elevator scene and the accident scene are from the same day.

 

[Picard Sisko]

No. The scene with the missile is clearly Park Avenue and 52nd.

Max gets saved in front of Oscorp by Columbus Circle. These two scenes are in different locations.

 

[GuestStar2004]

the chase scene and rhino scene are likely to be somewhat close together, could be like a 8 minute break before the rhino fight, its likely before max becomes electro and the crowd are cheering for him after the rhino fight

 

[Airnick]

I am truly confused about when the rhino fight will take place now.

 

[Picard Sisko]

the chase scene and rhino scene are likely to be somewhat close together, could be like a 8 minute break before the rhino fight, its likely before max becomes electro and the crowd are cheering for him after the rhino fight

Wait what? Aleksei isn't going to get captured by Spider-Man and suddenly 8 minutes later come back with a Rhino suit. lol

 

[GuestStar2004]

Wait what? Aleksei isn't going to get captured by Spider-Man and suddenly 8 minutes later come back with a Rhino suit. lol

I can see it working with creative writing, I don't think he will appear at the end after gwens death so I'm sure it happens some point early on

 

[Airnick]

I can see it working with creative writing, I don't think he will appear at the end after gwens death so I'm sure it happens some point early on

I don't think him appearing after Gwen's death would be a good idea.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I don't think him appearing after Gwen's death would be a good idea.

It would be a very watered down ending after a tragic death

Rhinos fight is likely early on, he is in the promotions so it would be cheap if it was another One of them build ups that don't pay off, many moaned that the parents plot was so hyped up and nothing was done with it, and they already said rhino was at start of film and that it was meant to have a fun feel, it all points to being early on

 

[Picard Sisko]

I can see it working with creative writing, I don't think he will appear at the end after gwens death so I'm sure it happens some point early on

With that argument, you can say that Rhino appearing after Gwen's death could work with "creative writing." Heck, ANYTHING could work with creative writing.

 

[Picard Sisko]

It would be a very watered down ending after a tragic death

Rhinos fight is likely early on, he is in the promotions so it would be cheap if it was another One of them build ups that don't pay off, many moaned that the parents plot was so hyped up and nothing was done with it, and they already said rhino was at start of film and that it was meant to have a fun feel, it all points to being early on

I don't think people are super hyped just to see Rhino. He isn't supposed to be a major part of the film, and Marc already said he is literally a tease. People are going to moan no matter what.

 

[Airnick]

It would be a very watered down ending after a tragic death

Rhinos fight is likely early on, he is in the promotions so it would be cheap if it was another One of them build ups that don't pay off, many moaned that the parents plot was so hyped up and nothing was done with it, and they already said rhino was at start of film and that it was meant to have a fun feel, it all points to being early on

Agreed. Thinking about it from the GA prespitive, are they supposed to be all sad after Gwen's death and then good 10 minutes later expected to laugh as spidey is throwing jokes at rhino?.