The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Scene Gwen Stacey Died - Part 2

[Repulsor Blast]

i still find it really peculiar that spider-man's suit isn't damaged in the shot where he shoots the web line down. i wouldn't be surprised if it was created specifically for the trailer... but that would be pretty dastardly marketing.

 

[Picard Sisko]

It could be a continuity error.

 

[ever tim]

Yeah, really don't think it's a shot just for the trailer lol.

Could be a continuity error like Picard said, effects might not have been completed in that shot... etc.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Do we know how damaged Spider-Man's suit will be after the times square battle?

 

[DigificWriter]

I just don't think it's gonna go down that way.

The evidence we have suggests that it is going to go down that way.

 

[Repulsor Blast]

it looks a-okay in all the pics and footage, even after he gets blasted into the cop car.

 

[Airnick]

The evidence we have suggests that it is going to go down that way.

What evidence do we have exactly that suggest that she'll fall to her death?.

 

[Repulsor Blast]

the neck snap could happen, then goblin and spider-man on the gear, then the web line snaps and gwen goes tumbling down. could be unknown whether it was the snap or the thud that killed her.

i don't think this will happen, just spit ballin' a way for both the fall and the neck snap to be involved.

i definitely foresee a large number of detractors come release if there is no neck snap element. i'm not 100% sure this version of spider-man needs it, given that he already has the guilt element via captain stacy.

 

[DigificWriter]

What evidence do we have exactly that suggest that she'll fall to her death?.

The fact that we see her alive and holding on to a web line after she's clearly fallen and been rescued by Pete once already while they're inside the clock tower and he's fighting Goblin Harry, and the fact that we see Pete crying in a location that looks like it's on solid, level ground flooring.

 

[Airnick]

The fact that we see her alive and holding on to a web line after she's clearly fallen and been rescued by Pete once already while they're inside the clock tower and he's fighting Goblin Harry, and the fact that we see Pete crying in a location that looks like it's on solid, level ground flooring.

Ok I guess, I still don't think I'll call that "evidence" that she falls to her death. But I'm fine if it does happen that way.

 

[sl500jazz]

Did anyone else notice that in the new footage the...

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...cog that Peter lands on and webs down from suddenly has holes in it when it didn't have them before ? So either it is the same cog that Gwen was on or the marketing people just really love messing with us. lol

 

[sl500jazz]

Anyway, (unless some of the footage we've seen is not in the actual film) it looks like...

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She's dropped over the tower. Spidey saves her and places her on a cog. She's falls off of the cog. Spidey saves her with his webbing. Spidey is tackled by the Goblin, the webbing is cut (or she loses her grip), and Spidey manages to escape from the Goblin and jumps after her? Isn't that overkill? Lol.

 

[Airnick]

Did anyone else notice that in the new footage the...

Spoiler

...cog that Peter lands on and webs down from suddenly has holes in it when it didn't have them before ? So either it is the same cog that Gwen was on or the marketing people just really love messing with us. lol

Huh, your right interesting.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Did anyone else notice that in the new footage the...

Spoiler

...cog that Peter lands on and webs down from suddenly has holes in it when it didn't have them before ? So either it is the same cog that Gwen was on or the marketing people just really love messing with us. lol

Yes they added holes to the cog, as well as damage to his suit! (Repulsor)

 

[Repulsor Blast]

Yes they added holes to the cog, as well as damage to his suit! (Repulsor)

could you give me a time code of the shot of him shooting the web line down so i can avoid the rest of the video still? be much appreciated.

 

[Naite22]

This all reeks of the end of Gwen. She'll 90% bite the dust in this one.

I don't know why, but I have a strong feeling that Gwen could deliver a powerful speech during the graduation, that'll be very significant for the underlying themes within the movie it self (including her own doom). We've already seen through set-videos that she is the class' valedictorian. It would be a great way to start building an unpleasant underlying tension, hinting at the dark path which is inevitably lying ahead. You know, just like when Harvey Dent in TDK talks about the sacrifices of victory. What's necessary. What are the risks (You either die a hero - or you live long enough to see your self become the villain). So, the idea of Gwen to hold a speech in a way that fits the situation in TASM2 could definitely work out. On the surface it'll come off as positive and inspirational. But there will be hints to certain doom here and there. If done right, it would work wonders. It could all be centered around what it means to take chances in life. To follow your dreams. The risk of failure, or success. What it means to live, daring to follow ones path. The little things which could switch our lives in to a whole other/different direction. Gwen is accepted in to Oxford. Will Peter let her go? In the end will she want to go, or will her strong love for Peter make her stay? Live or die? Consequences, consequences. Oh, I can see it now, and it could be "operatic"

 

[DigificWriter]

Ok I guess, I still don't think I'll call that "evidence" that she falls to her death. But I'm fine if it does happen that way.

It's pretty much a certainty at this point that she dies and since we know that Pete successfully catches her with a web line and she's still alive, how else do you think she'll die if she doesn't fall based solely on what we know?

I can't fault you for wanting her to die from whiplash, but at this point it doesn't make sense based on what we currently know about the circumstances under which her death occurs for you to keep holding out for that to happen.

 

[ever tim]

The weird slow mo moment of Gwen she's looking up at Spidey when she's hanging onto the webline makes me think that something'll happen to her at that moment. I think the new diving shot of Spidey is from when she's actually falling to her death. It's certainly not immediately after they come crashing through as the way Spidey's landing on the cog and the way he's diving don't match up.

 

[Picard Sisko]

It's pretty much a certainty at this point that she dies and since we know that Pete successfully catches her with a web line and she's still alive, how else do you think she'll die if she doesn't fall based solely on what we know?

I can't fault you for wanting her to die from whiplash, but at this point it doesn't make sense based on what we currently know about the circumstances under which her death occurs for you to keep holding out for that to happen.

What if Gwen is falling and then Peter shoots a web down to catch her?

 

[ever tim]

Assuming she gets knocked off the webline she's hanging onto, Spidey could shoot out a second one which catches her leg and results in... well, y'know. Especially considering how Gwen's falling here.

That^ and this:

Are not from the same part. He saves her the first time (second pic), her neck snaps when he shoots a webline at her leg the second time (first pic).

 

[DigificWriter]

Based on everything we know at this point, I'm convinced that Pete dispatches Goblin Harry and goes looking for Gwen, finding her lifeless body after she fell to her death while he was fighting and after he'd shot her a web line. It's the only conclusion that makes sense based on what we know.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Based on everything we know at this point, I'm convinced that Pete dispatches Goblin Harry and goes looking for Gwen, finding her lifeless body after she fell to her death while he was fighting and after he'd shot her a web line. It's the only conclusion that makes sense based on what we know.

I think this does make the most sense. You also have to consider that the Goblin would have to be stopped before Peter gets a chance to cry over her lifeless body. Though it would have been cool to see Peter take out all of his anger on Harry for killing Gwen, but I think thematically, we should find out her fate AFTER the battle.

 

[DigificWriter]

Assuming she gets knocked off the webline she's hanging onto, Spidey could shoot out a second one which catches her leg and results in... well, y'know. Especially considering how Gwen's falling here.

That^ and this:

Are not from the same part. He saves her the first time (second pic), her neck snaps when he shoots a webline at her leg the second time (first pic).

There's nothing in those two respective images to suggest that they're not connected and no logical reason why they wouldn't be based on what we know.

 

[ever tim]

Why do you keep going on as though your word is law? The way she's falling doesn't match up at all, there's your reason.

Or am I unequivocally wrong again?

 

[DigificWriter]

^ How are you drawing that conclusion? There's nothing in those respective images to suggest that.