The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Scene Gwen Stacey Died - Part 2

[Picard Sisko]

Me personally I don't want Peter to kill Harry, and especially don't want him to pull a Superman and snap Harry's neck. That's just completely out of character.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. Spider-Man didn't even kill Norman Osborn after he killed Gwen in the comics (he was impailed by his own glider after Peter beat him). I think Spider-Man is probably going to beat him to a bloody pulp, but I don't see him killing Harry.

 

[PrinceRoy]

Me personally I don't want Peter to kill Harry, and especially don't want him to pull a Superman and snap Harry's neck. That's just completely out of character.

Yeah, that would be completely out of character and that's kinda why I want it to happen. It would be so damn unexpected. I can picture myself yelling OMFG.

But you know, I don't think the Peter from the movies shares the same values as the Peter from the comics. The whole Uncle Ben thing isn't so central to the character so I would like to see Spider-Man getting lost in his inner darkness.
Only to learn about responsabilities later on. This is the early years of Spider-Man, of course he is going to make ''mistakes''.

And people love dark superheroes, huh? Haha.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Spider-Man is still learning responsibility as he did in the comic books, but just differently. Originally, Uncle Ben died, and he almost instantly became the Spider-Man we know and love. In TASM, he started off being a vigilante, and didn't really take in Uncle Ben's words until after the bridge sequence. Once Gwen dies, both the words of Uncle Ben and Captain Stacy are going to stick with him forever. But I just cannot see him killing Harry, even if he is responsible for Gwen's death.

 

[C. Lee]

Hello

Hello.

Goodbye.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Hello.

Goodbye.

Hello, goodbye--in the blink of an eye!

 

[JOE]

Lol there's a thing called I.P addresses. I guess people don't know about them haha.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

That was weird, man. What the hell was that? Institution?

Geez. Anyway, the Peter crying face lasts like less than a second. I bet most people didn't even catch that.

 

[JOE]

Lasts less than a second in the movie or in the trailer?

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Lasts less than a second in the movie or in the trailer?

Nah in the trailer haha.

 

[Perry9]

It's what Marc Webb had said in the commentary for the first movie. When you don't have two characters to talk to each other in order to express their thoughts and emotions, you use music. I think that James Horner did a spectacular job in this area, but that's not important.

All i'm saying is that Hans Zimmer will most likely play an important role to Peter's grieving process. Or even better, when Gwen dies, there will be no music ,only Marc's directing and Andrew's acting, to show that when a loved one dies no thought can cross your mind. Everything else seems very trivial.

 

[JOE]

Nah in the trailer haha.

Oh, yeah everyone saw that already I believe. There was even a screenshot of it in one of the threads if I remember correctly.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Oh, yeah everyone saw that already I believe. There was even a screenshot of it in one of the threads if I remember correctly.

Yeah everyone HERE haha. But GA, they have no idea what's coming.

 

[Perry9]

Yeah everyone HERE haha. But GA, they have no idea what's coming.

I can already imagine their shock. Not many franchises kill off their main characters (assuming this one will).

 

[Picard Sisko]

Yeah everyone HERE haha. But GA, they have no idea what's coming.

The majority of people who sat and watched the trailer in theaters or don't go on message boards aren't going to over analyze that second of footage with Peter crying. Its just an out-of-context scene of the main character screaming/crying, and I doubt they are connecting it to Gwen's death.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

The majority of people who sat and watched the trailer in theaters or don't go on message boards aren't going to over analyze that second of footage with Peter crying. Its just an out-of-context scene of the main character screaming/crying, and I doubt they are connecting it to Gwen's death.

Exactly. Just goes to show what geeks we are. Haha!

 

[UltimateWebhead]

The majority of people who sat and watched the trailer in theaters or don't go on message boards aren't going to over analyze that second of footage with Peter crying. Its just an out-of-context scene of the main character screaming/crying, and I doubt they are connecting it to Gwen's death.

Yes, exactly. Not one person that I showed the trailer asked about that quick shot. All their questions were centered around other things and no one brings up the possibility of Gwen dying either, as I have cleverly kept that a secret from them.

Exactly. Just goes to show what geeks we are. Haha!

 

[Picard Sisko]

And the geeks shall inherit the internet.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Yes, exactly. Not one person that I showed the trailer asked about that quick shot. All their questions were centered around other things and no one brings up the possibility of Gwen dying either, as I have cleverly kept that a secret from them.

The GA might now even know what these villains names are called lol. They just love Andrew and Emma and enjoy Spider-Man I guess. I'm serious. A bunch of people just watch to watch you know?

And I didn't mean the geek thing in a bad way! We're all geeks about something.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

The GA might now even know what these villains names are called lol. They just love Andrew and Emma and enjoy Spider-Man I guess. I'm serious. A bunch of people just watch to watch you know?

It really is that simple. Most of my non-comic reading friends and family, well actually that's all of them, lol, are only into these things because some like Andrew and/or Emma or they like superhero movies in general cause they're entertaining, usually have cool action scenes and are overall fun movies to go see. My wife, for example, only knows what she knows about Spidey from what she's seen in the movies and what I've told her about the comics.

But after showing the trailers and spots to those aforementioned peeps, they asked things like...Is Electro a guy from the comics? When does Peter meet MJ? (from the wife) How many villains are in this? How many villains does Spider-man have in the comics? Who does Paul Giamatti play? etc. And lots more just like those. None of them are even slightly aware of Gwen's possible demise.

And I didn't mean the geek thing in a bad way! We're all geeks about something.

I know. I was making the sad face in an attempt to be humorous. I'm still working on the whole being funny thing...

 

[Nicko-Ray]

It really is that simple. Most of my non-comic reading friends and family, well actually that's all of them, lol, are only into these things because some like Andrew and/or Emma or they like superhero movies in general cause they're entertaining, usually have cool action scenes and are overall fun movies to go see. My wife, for example, only knows what she knows about Spidey from what she's seen in the movies and what I've told her about the comics.

But after showing the trailers and spots to those aforementioned peeps, they asked things like...Is Electro a guy from the comics? When does Peter meet MJ? (from the wife) How many villains are in this? How many villains does Spider-man have in the comics? Who does Paul Giamatti play? etc. And lots more just like those. None of them are even slightly aware of Gwen's possible demise.

I know. I was making the sad face in an attempt to be humorous. I'm still working on the whole being funny thing...

Lol well it just worked!

The bold is huge. It's basically why people go out and see superhero movies AND why it's the current big thing right now.

I've had similar questions asked and one time a girl thought Emma was playing Mary Jane. Stuff like that. Totally. It's actually kinda why I go on these boards. To gather with people that are as geeked on this stuff.

 

[Scarilian]

Have an alternate theory on the events you might be interested in;

Spider-man is popular after the events of the first movie and subsequently saving people - which we see a montage of including rescuing people from a burning building and saving Maxwell Dillon when stopping a crook Aleksei Sytsevich.

Maxwell Dillon becomes obsessed with Spider-man and ends up in an accident leading him to become Electro. Gwen is on the rise at Oscorp however they want her to transfer to work at an Oscorp Power Plant in London - this leads to Peter getting emotional when working as Spider-man.

However he is still wracked with guilt over Gwen's father and finds he is seeing her father everywhere - leading him to question if he and Gwen are right for each other.

Swinging through the city he discovers Aleksei Sytsevich again however Aleksei unveils some Oscorp technology leading Peter to battle 'The Rhino' who he defeats by shutting off his power.

That night Peter and Gwen are talking about her moving away - when Electro attacks times square leading to a battle with Spider-man which destroys times square. Electro realising what he has done retreats. Gwen leaves to go to London as Harry Osborn arrives back in New York.

Peter goes to see him - leading to them discussing Norman Osborn. While Peter goes to Aunt May for advice eventually leading him to discover his parents laboratory and realise Oscorp is behind everything, Norman talks to Harry revealing Peter is Spider-man and telling him to go to RavenCroft before seemingly passing away.

Harry is shown Electro at RavenCroft (Who was captured off-screen) and they set to work to improve him - with Harry convincing him that he is more powerful than everyone.

Spider-man confronts Harry about Oscorp and what their plan is - this is likely after he discovers about the death of his parents via a plane crash orchestrated by Oscorp.

This leads Harry to become the Green Goblin - wounding his secretary and potential love-interest of the movie (Felicity Jones) before kidnapping Gwen from the Oscorp building.

Spider-man discovers (Felicity Jones) and finds out that the Green Goblin is going after Gwen.

We cut to London - where Gwen has just arrived, its daytime and she's looking out over a bridge. Peter arrives in London that evening and heads to the Oscorp Power Plant. Peter (As Spider-man) is about to talk to Gwen when the Green Goblin arrives.

The Green Goblin orders Electro to attack him. Electro fights Spider-man before being seemingly destroyed when the power plant is shutdown (Similar to how Rhino was defeated earlier) removing the Electricity he needs to maintain a physical form.

Green Goblin picks up Gwen carrying her up and dropping her - Spider-man catches her as they fall into a clock tower. This leads to a tense moments as he saves Gwen. However, Green Goblin attacks leading to a short battle that ends with him pinning Spider-man down attempting to stab him with a knife weapon.

They battle resulting in the death of Harry when he is accidentally stabbed by Peter (This is the scene of Peter crying in the trailer) Gwen unfortunately reveals that she cant move back to New York and breaks up with Peter.

A funeral is held for Harry and Peter ends up visiting his grave and the grave of his parents as the movie ends he promises that his life as Spider-man has to come first - with great power comes the need for great responsibility.

After the credits we witness the mysterious man as he goes down an elevator into the lower sections of Oscorp walking past the suits of Doctor Octopus and Vulture. He continues walking as we see Lizard, Rhino and Electro inside of cell cages - each seemingly under Oscorp control via electronic chips. We witness him as he goes to a life-support machine and talks to the occupant

"How are you feeling, Norman?"

The occupants eyes open as he begins turning Green, his skin bulging with muscle - signalling the arrival of Norman Osborn as the true Green Goblin.


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This sets up 'The Sinister Six' for the third film lead by Green Goblin and consisting of Doc Ock, Vulture, Electro, Rhino and Lizard.

It also sets up Norman Osborn as the main villain in the third movie to bring the Oscorp storyline to an end.

In addition it would establish that the mysterious man 'The Gentleman' is working with Norman Osborn.

It also keeps Gwen Stacey alive - however the death of Harry - Peter blames on himself thus giving us a similar situation to Gwen's death without killing her.

It also allows the third film to focus on Peter Parker/Spider-man more than the other characters as without Gwen he doesn't need a love interest for the third movie - although they could introduce Mary Jane.

It also leaves the possibility open for Gwen to return at some point.

 

[Picard Sisko]

The bridge is in NYC, not London.

 

[The Caped Knight]

 

[Picard Sisko]

I remember going into a dark place after reading that issue for the first time. Never thought the death of a comic book character could leave such an impact, y'know?

 

[The Caped Knight]

honestly I was never a Gwen Fan, so her death never impacted me I always loved Mary Jane Watson from the get-go her introduction panel hooked me from the start.