The Dark Knight Rises The TDKR General Discussion Thread - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 149

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It seems my hardcore TDKR debating days are over. At this point, I'm far too invested in a number of other topics to devote some energy to that, even with this thread still going strong. It's been fun for the 2 years that it lasted, but I think it might be the time to call it day. At least for me.

So I'll leave you off with this...

Shauner, I will never like this movie. I think it's an insult to everything Batman stands for and I will never understand how you could actually like it. But just because I can't see how doesn't mean I can't understand why.

When I see this movie, I see Nolan retiring Batman solely due to a lack of understanding of the character and for the sake of making his franchise untouchable by WB. But that's not what you see. You see one of your favorite superheroes being tested, and put through a greater challenge than ever before: having to overcome all the pain and misery bestowed upon him since he was a child. And by going through so much intensity, with Bane breaking him physically and his city being left to ruins, it makes his challenge to escape his demons far more greater and, at least to you, far more interesting. For you, and probably for a lot of other people that like this film, you're seeing The Dark Knight go up against the greatest struggle he's ever had to face and go up against. Because of how long he's a recluse. So when he rises up and retires, you can feel all-the-more-proud of what he has indeed overcome.

It's not about that he quit. It's about how you see him fight against those demons that do keep him from quitting. And not just through him in therapy sessions, but by conquering and standing up to what he feels is weighing him down.

I don't see the same thing, but at the very least, I know that's what you see. So as long as you're viewing it because you want to see our favorite hero rise up against the greatest darkness he's ever faced and been forced to, all I can say is...good ahead and enjoy it, man.

-Inspired by the Nostalgia Critic's words to Angry Joe on MOS.

:yay:

Agreed fully. batman was my fav character my entire life and after this movie, I don't like the character at all. TDKR made me quit reading comics for about 15 months, and I haven't revisited the first two Nolan movies even though they are admittedly awesome. This is one of about three movies I've ever seen that I'd say I actually hate. I couldn't even come up with a list of five details I liked about this picture.
 
O wow lol. And I thought I didn't like it.
 
It seems a lot of people dislike this film for not giving them an open "and the adventure continues" ending for future filmmakers to build a James Bond style on-going continuity with the occasional lead recast every few years and perhaps use as a cinematic DCU launch pad, while others dislike it for not having the Joker or because Bats went off to live happily ever after with Catwoman instead of Talia (you know how the shipping wars are).

Just an observation.
 
I'm sorry Hammer, but may I ask why- if you didn't like it at all- is it a 5/10 for you?Seems a bit high for someone who it ruined the character for lol
 
This thread is for the discussion of a movie called THE DARK KNIGHT RISES........
 
I don't hate this film but I wasn't satisfied by it. Sucks because I haven't watched either of the preceding Nolan films since. TDK was my favourite comic book movie, Batman my favourite character, but TDKR killed my interest. I even bought the trilogy on Blu Ray and haven't watched them.
 
I'll always remember the feeling I had on opening night (5:00 AM) when it comes to this movie.

I thought Nolan did a great job and I was thoroughly satisfied. My only negative thoughts when leaving the theater and certainly (almost) 2 years later...

- Blake. Don't like him and I doubt I ever will. He severely taints the movie for me.
- I wasn't wowed by Anne Hathaway. I was expecting something much more dynamic and she just kind of languished on screen. However, I mainly blame Nolan for this.
- The ending was powerful... but I don't know if Bruce can just retire and move on. Eh...

Apart from that. I pretty much loved it.
 
I'm sorry Hammer, but may I ask why- if you didn't like it at all- is it a 5/10 for you?Seems a bit high for someone who it ruined the character for lol

I pride myself in staying objectionable in grading films and looking at them analytically. I hated TDKR as a Batman fan, thought it was mediocre as a film.
 
I'll always remember the feeling I had on opening night (5:00 AM) when it comes to this movie.

I thought Nolan did a great job and I was thoroughly satisfied. My only negative thoughts when leaving the theater and certainly (almost) 2 years later...

- Blake. Don't like him and I doubt I ever will. He severely taints the movie for me.
- I wasn't wowed by Anne Hathaway. I was expecting something much more dynamic and she just kind of languished on screen. However, I mainly blame Nolan for this.
- The ending was powerful... but I don't know if Bruce can just retire and move on. Eh...

Apart from that. I pretty much loved it.

I pretty much felt the same way, and had it as the second best of the trilogy upon seeing it for the first time. But Blake, oh Blake. I actually like the character, but felt he had a little too much attention in the second act. It's odd because one of my biggest fears going into the film was Nolan might try and have Blake steal Bruce's thunder, having Blake come off as this uber bad ass protege. I'm glad that wasn't the case, but perhaps that's why a lot of people felt he wasn't fit to have the mantle of The Batman passed down to him - because he isn't exceptional.

Oddly enough my appreciation has grown for the film since the last time I saw it. I really want to watch it again, but can't find the time, lol.
 
Despite all our disagreements I still have to say that as a self contained trilogy/story it was still damn enjoyable. We didn't all get the conclusion we wanted but I think viewed as a whole piece it was still a great achievement for the Batman franchise.

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This.
 
It seems my hardcore TDKR debating days are over. At this point, I'm far too invested in a number of other topics to devote some energy to that, even with this thread still going strong. It's been fun for the 2 years that it lasted, but I think it might be the time to call it day. At least for me.

So I'll leave you off with this...

Shauner, I will never like this movie. I think it's an insult to everything Batman stands for and I will never understand how you could actually like it. But just because I can't see how doesn't mean I can't understand why.

When I see this movie, I see Nolan retiring Batman solely due to a lack of understanding of the character and for the sake of making his franchise untouchable by WB. But that's not what you see. You see one of your favorite superheroes being tested, and put through a greater challenge than ever before: having to overcome all the pain and misery bestowed upon him since he was a child. And by going through so much intensity, with Bane breaking him physically and his city being left to ruins, it makes his challenge to escape his demons far more greater and, at least to you, far more interesting. For you, and probably for a lot of other people that like this film, you're seeing The Dark Knight go up against the greatest struggle he's ever had to face and go up against. Because of how long he's a recluse. So when he rises up and retires, you can feel all-the-more-proud of what he has indeed overcome.

It's not about that he quit. It's about how you see him fight against those demons that do keep him from quitting. And not just through him in therapy sessions, but by conquering and standing up to what he feels is weighing him down.

I don't see the same thing, but at the very least, I know that's what you see. So as long as you're viewing it because you want to see our favorite hero rise up against the greatest darkness he's ever faced and been forced to, all I can say is...good ahead and enjoy it, man.

-Inspired by the Nostalgia Critic's words to Angry Joe on MOS.

:yay:

A really remarkable post. I will greatly miss your contributions to this thread and how eloquently you made your points.
 
I believe that a lot of comic book fans never got the point or really understood Chris Nolan's vision of Batman/Bruce Wayne.
 
My personal favourite fight scene was at the docks in BB. I always find when the pull back the camera on any Batman fight scene it comes across as cartoony. I get that same feeling whenever I see him running. Like the shower scene in Psycho, its what I didn't see that made it effective.


That and the fight scene with Ducard/Ra's on the train were the best fight scenes in the whole TDKT. I don't know what happened with TDK and TDKR, but the fights sucked.
 
I believe that a lot of comic book fans never got the point or really understood Chris Nolan's vision of Batman/Bruce Wayne.

Of course they understood it. Just because they didn't like what he did doesn't mean they don't understand it.
 
....wait, Bruce retired? Hmmmmm, maybe I don't understand? :o
 
it's dat subtext brah, deep meanings and subtext is everything!
 
Jonathan Nolan was asked if he’d ever like to revisit the Dark Knight sometime in the future.
“I’d love to go back twenty years from now,” Nolan said. “I’d love to go back and revisit that character in a different part of my life. But that was 10 years of my life, and we were very proud of the films that we made.”
The fanboy in me is probably misinterpreting what he's saying. I guess he means Batman in general but i can't help but think of Jonah revisiting this universe when Bale is in his mid-50s and Hathaway in her mid-40s.
 
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