The Xbox One - Part 8

[X Knight]

I can't wait till next Tues when I get DAI and WWE 2K15. then I can really start using my X1 to play games.

so far though, other than CoD taking forever to install digitally, I'm liking my X1.

 

[Iceman]

but they didn't though. they just stayed sold out just like every new console does at the beginning of a generation. as far as sony pricing the Ps4 way cheaper than they needed to, essentially the Ps4 and the xbone are the same, the Ps4 has slightly better hardware that equates to overall 50% more raw computing power, but if the difference was that drastic we would see bigger differences in practice.

Most multiplat games run better on the Ps4 but lately with the parity issues and what not things are much more even, and Ps4 exclusives (aside from what we've seen in the Uc4 trailer) don't look substantially better than xbone exclusives.

ah, i don't even know why i'm rambling about this crap now

Didn't what? And I don't know about everywhere else but X1 has never been sold out in any shops I've looked at. When you have a very similar competitor in a market where purchases are made years apart being massively oversubscribed and sold out by a long way means you've underpriced as you could still have sold out for $10 extra per unit for eg and more likely in the PS4's case $50 or even $100 extra. After the initial demand/supply mismatch after the 1st 10m or so consoles they could move to $400 and still maintain their competitive position having banked an extra billion or half billion dollars (a massive amount to a company that is Sony's (current) size).

However if they are more interested in taking sales from potential X1 owners on the fence that's a different strategy...chasing market share and rank ahead of profit. Sony's strategy has cost them profit margin on every console sold and if they could have supplied more during the initial period they might have been able to take full advantage but as it stands those who couldn't get hold of them due to supply reasons now face a situation where the competitior has had time to respond and the decision to go PS4 is not as clearcut as it was at that time.

 

[Iceman]

I think Halo will sell Xboes (the Beta for 5 alone will) and I believe GTAV will sell better on the One. PS4 bundle or not. Destiny was more or less marketed as a Sony game... And the single game by itself sold more on the One.

However the MCC does I don't see its impact being anywhere near that of Halo 5 next year. IF it lives up to all the potential, I think it will be by far the biggest system mover of this gen so far.

 

[Benstamania]

No, but I think a LOT of people will buy an Xbox for the beta that comes out just after Christmas. Crackdown only sold because of the Halo 3 beta. Sure it was a fun game but NO ONE bought it because they wanted to play Crackdown. I was working at gamestop at the time, lol

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Didn't what? And I don't know about everywhere else but X1 has never been sold out in any shops I've looked at. When you have a very similar competitor in a market where purchases are made years apart being massively oversubscribed and sold out by a long way means you've underpriced as you could still have sold out for $10 extra per unit for eg and more likely in the PS4's case $50 or even $100 extra. After the initial demand/supply mismatch after the 1st 10m or so consoles they could move to $400 and still maintain their competitive position having banked an extra billion or half billion dollars (a massive amount to a company that is Sony's (current) size).

However if they are more interested in taking sales from potential X1 owners on the fence that's a different strategy...chasing market share and rank ahead of profit. Sony's strategy has cost them profit margin on every console sold and if they could have supplied more during the initial period they might have been able to take full advantage but as it stands those who couldn't get hold of them due to supply reasons now face a situation where the competitior has had time to respond and the decision to go PS4 is not as clearcut as it was at that time.

they didn't raise the price because their stock was low. and i think at this point they are interested in getting as many consumers as possible and that includes swaying potention xbone owners. so hey iceman, wat do you think will happen this christmas?

 

[Iceman]

they didn't raise the price because their stock was low. and i think at this point they are interested in getting as many consumers as possible and that includes swaying potention xbone owners. so hey iceman, wat do you think will happen this christmas?

Yeah I was saying I thought they went with too competitive a launch price. At $450 for eg I think they would have still totally sold out. Once the supply shortages were gone they could drop to $400 (or even lower if they wanted to compete harder with the extra breathing room the earlier proift would have given them). In the US yes they were probably all about the install base over profit as they wanted to be no.1 there as well as everywhere else this gen. But I don't know if Sony the company can afford to sacrifice that much profit so readily when the cash could be needed at any time to shore up other divisions. Now is the time when they actually do need to be competitive on price (rather than launch).

As for Christmas I think the X1 will perform very well with the likes of Sunset Overdrive and MCC in particular. It will likely catch or overtake the PS4 slightly but I also expect the PS4 to be a big thing this Xmas. Couldn't call it for sure but the new year will be more telling. It will still be a very long time before the X1 can even think of catching up on overall units sold given how far behind it is.

 

[Iceman]

No, but I think a LOT of people will buy an Xbox for the beta that comes out just after Christmas. Crackdown only sold because of the Halo 3 beta. Sure it was a fun game but NO ONE bought it because they wanted to play Crackdown. I was working at gamestop at the time, lol

Good point actually. The only reason I (and many others) bought Bulletstorm was for the Gears 3 beta. Although I liked the game anyway, just would never have paid full price for it.

 

[X Knight]

so is there a way you can manually check if a game has an update available?? or does it do that automatically??

 

[Benstamania]

Does it automatically if you have instant on on.

 

[X Knight]

thanks, but what if you have Instant On turned off??

then what??

while I'm (still) downloading CoD digitally, I've set my X1 to Instant On so it will still download while it's "off."

but, normally, I want to set it to Energy Saving mode when I'm downloading a game.

 

[terry78]

Then...it won't?

 

[Benstamania]

I'd just keep it on instant on. I don't think Energy Saving will do much saving of energy to make it matter...

 

[X Knight]

so, while the X1 is on, even though the power setting is set to Energy Saving mode, it won't check for updates?

I know when it's off in Energy Saving mode, it won't check or download updates.

 

[X Knight]

I'd just keep it on instant on. I don't think Energy Saving will do much saving of energy to make it matter...

really??

idk......I guess I just prefer if I'm not using a machine to just turn it off.....lol.

 

[PalmerTheThing]

How are you liking the interface X Knight?

I love it a lot more then the 360 interface, it's hard to even navigate on my 360 anymore, since i'm so used to my X1

 

[Travesty]

I still hate this X1 interface. At a surface level, it's fine going from your games to twitch/youtube. but doing simple things like inviting people who aren't on your friends list to a party, or just accepting an invite, etc can take a lot longer than it should. You can tell the OS was designed around voice commands.

 

[X Knight]

How are you liking the interface X Knight?

I love it a lot more then the 360 interface, it's hard to even navigate on my 360 anymore, since i'm so used to my X1

I like it overall. takes a bit to get used to it, but it's not so bad. I don't seem to have a hard time navigating to where I want to go.

I've had a few "hiccups" or freezes, but so far nothing major.

of course, I haven't really gone in and used a whole lot of features yet. actual gaming will start Tues.

but, on the surface level, I do like the interface.

 

[PalmerTheThing]

I like it overall. takes a bit to get used to it, but it's not so bad. I don't seem to have a hard time navigating to where I want to go.

I've had a few "hiccups" or freezes, but so far nothing major.

of course, I haven't really gone in and used a whole lot of features yet. actual gaming will start Tues.

but, on the surface level, I do like the interface.

That's good to hear. Glad we got an another member on team Xbone.

Watch out for that gloss finish btw on the top and front, you will scratch it by even thinking about it. Even microfibre scratches it.

Also, what are you getting on tuesday? I'm getting Dragon Age and GTA 5, all of course for the bone.

 

[X Knight]

That's good to hear. Glad we got an another member on team Xbone.

Watch out for that gloss finish btw on the top and front, you will scratch it by even thinking about it. Even microfibre scratches it.

Also, what are you getting on tuesday? I'm getting Dragon Age and GTA 5, all of course for the bone.

thanks! maybe this weekend, I'll send all you guys PMs so we can exchange GTs? or you can PM me, too.

my CoD console doesn't really have that much of a gloss finish on top. I think still a bit on the front, though. so I'll try to be careful.

I'm getting DAI and WWE 2K15 next Tues. Just a few more day!!!t:

 

[Benstamania]

really??

idk......I guess I just prefer if I'm not using a machine to just turn it off.....lol.

I've had mine on instant on since launch. It just sleeps but downloads patches and updates without you having to do it.. And with all the patches incoming....

 

[X Knight]

I've had mine on instant on since launch. It just sleeps but downloads patches and updates without you having to do it.. And with all the patches incoming....

really??

well, I guess I'll have to see setting I like better.

btw.....in Instant On, there's an option that says "Turn Storage off when X1 is off."

what does that do?

should I leave that option checked or unchecked?

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

some guy on ebay is offering to accept dualshock 4s and replace the thumbstick with the xbone's, i'm considering it

 

[Thundercrack85]

I'm pretty content with the Xbone controller. Though I do wish it had a headphone jack.

I always liked the Xbox 360 controller, so it didn't feel like a big upgrade like going from the DS3 to DS4.

The DS4 is probably the best controller I ever played with. Such an improvement in every way, except for the battery. That was really a problem.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I'm pretty content with the Xbone controller. Though I do wish it had a headphone jack.

I always liked the Xbox 360 controller, so it didn't feel like a big upgrade like going from the DS3 to DS4.

The DS4 is probably the best controller I ever played with. Such an improvement in every way, except for the battery. That was really a problem.

i think the placement of the ds4's triggers are a little too slanted. the xbone controller is superior in every way except i think its bumpers suck.

 

[Travesty]

I'm not a huge fan of how loose the sticks are on the X1. I thought the 360 had a perfect amount of tension. The DS4 sticks feel better than the X1 to me. All around, I think the DS4 is a superior controller this gen, but I still prefer the 360, especially for shooters. I'm currently playing COD:AW on both the 360 and X1, and while the graphics are superior on the X1, I prefer playing the game on the 360, due to my preference in the controller.