TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 3

[mayo23]

Wow.

That is actually quite shocking.

What's also quite shocking is that he loved IM3...MOS seemed like it would've been perfect for him.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Yes, he is. Jackie Earle Hayley as Rorshach. Patrick Wilson as Nite-Owl. Jeffrey Dean Morgan as The Comedian. Billy Crudup as Dr. Manhattan, in my opinion, deserved an oscar and that was mo-cap!

Rorshach is the only one who left a lasting impression.(Ie the one with most visual flair not including a blue penis). No one is quoting Night Owl or the Comedian like they do Batman 89, Joker, or Superman.

Are you legit serious? Are we going to compare an actor tilting his head and walking around as Oscar material when you have someone like Andy Serkis creating a character whole cloth down to his speaking and body movements which didn't even get a nomination?

Gollum is a character with lasting impression.

How, exactly? Watchmen was poorly paced but each scene had the proper emotional weight that was required. A ton of detail was put into the world the film was set in, which is exactly what made the graphic novel so critically acclaimed. I haven't seen a single explanation on exactly how the substance wasn't there. Just that style apparently overwhelms it.

Visual substance? Sure. I did believe i was watching the past. An alternate US? Not really. But that's more than any two hour film could possible do.

The emotional weight fluctuated from scene to scene. Laurie was terrible and the action scenes were so flashy violence that we lost the realism of what these people were doing as suspect. Let's not even go into that sex flamethrower.t:

I was in awe every time Dr. Manhattan spoke. I didn't like Watchmen for the fight scenes, the dialogue was interesting enough.

I loved Superman Returns, but even I can admit that the general consensus is that it's boring and the the kid wasn't a good idea.

I loved Dr. Manhattan, too. The best scene wasn't him speaking though. It was the montage of him building his home on Mars with the music and light narration.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

I'm thinking this film will get a lot more love from the GA.

I am confident it will. The criticisms I have heard so far have not swayed me in the slightest, particularly in the humorless department. Were they expecting one liners while he was saving people? And again, if they are expecting the gee golly Superman, that doesn't fly in this day and age. No pun intended.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

What's also quite shocking is that he loved IM3...MOS seemed like it would've been perfect for him.

How so? IM3 at times plays out like a flat out comedy. MOS won't tread in that territory.

 

[slimshady247]

I am confident it will. The criticisms I have heard so far have not swayed me in the slightest, particularly in the humorless department. Were they expecting one liners while he was saving people? And again, if they are expecting the gee golly Superman, that doesn't fly in this day and age. No pun intended.

Yeah, a good portion of the criticism isn't even focused on whether it's a good film, but how it compares to Donner's vision or other things. Kind of ridiculous. That's not to say there's no good points raised in the more critical reviews, as there certainly are some that are a little bit concerning, but still.

 

[hopefuldreamer]

I hate to point out the bleeding obvious but there is the strong possibility that the movie isn't nearly as good as everyone hoped for.

It's for sure possible.

But then I read a review like this, and I think if one guy can have loved the film THIS MUCH (and his review reads like he's an intellegent guy), then it can't be bad:

http://****************.com/movies/man-steel-review/

 

[Hammer!]

I hate to point out the bleeding obvious but there is the strong possibility that the movie isn't nearly as good as everyone hoped for.

At this rate it would be lucky to get a better score than Iron Man 3.

 

[Sharkboy]

The film will likely make plenty of money and (I hope) be generally appraised by the GA and the majority of critics, and really that's all WB needs to make a sequel to this and continue in giving us a modern Superman film franchise. I think people expected a TDK level of response and instead they (seems to be) got a Captain America/Thor level response, which is still good and very respectable. It's a great launching pad for the series and that's all I ever wanted for this personally.

 

[GreenKToo]

not one to panic, but I am a little worried here.

 

[mayo23]

How so? IM3 at times plays out like a flat out comedy. MOS won't tread in that territory.

How so what? I'm not sure what you're asking. I was just commenting on how it was shocking because Roeper is generally a well respected reviewer who loves action movies and comic book movies. BTW, I didn't think IM3 was very good and was actually expecting MOS to blow it away.

EDIT:

Here's an interesting extract from Roeper's review.

But then we’re plunged back into a mostly underwhelming film, with underdeveloped characters and supercharged fight scenes that drag on forever and offer nothing new in the way of special-effects creativity

 

[jmc]

Or that mean ole critics hate Snyder's obvious yet underrated brilliance!


But most likely what you said, yeah.

I myself have had issues with Snyder so it's not really surprising to me if once again he's let spectacle overpower substance. Thing is he's like Michael Bay but unlike Bay he's at least trying to do more than just be about the visuals, he cares far more about the story, it's just he's never been really good at doing it.

 

[DanSupKP37]

Shocking: Roeper gave this 2 stars

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/movies/20677169-421/man-of-steel-beset-by-kryptonite.html

I am really shocked about this... I didn't see this negative MOS buzz coming at all..

 

[FlawlessVictory]

How so what? I'm not sure what you're questioning.

Why would he like MOS if he liked IM3? They are different in tone.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I am really shocked about this... I didn't see this negative MOS buzz coming at all..

Nobody did..

 

[NeoQuaker]

Shocking: Roeper gave this 2 stars

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/movies/20677169-421/man-of-steel-beset-by-kryptonite.html

This is absurd. Roeper is one of my favorite critics. He gave Fast and Furious 6 a 4.5 and Iron Man 3 a 4/5. I'm at a loss for words. I really think people are reviewing this thing unfairly.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ Maybe the embargo was there for a reason :/

 

[terry78]

I really really hate Ebert is gone man. This summer he would have had a field day with.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

I see everyone has lost hope....

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ Assuming the movie was any good, Ebert probably would have seen the positive elements in the film

 

[Ozymandias]

Shocking: Roeper gave this 2 stars

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/movies/20677169-421/man-of-steel-beset-by-kryptonite.html

I'm shocked by his response. After watching it, the closest comparison I could make to another superhero film was Batman Begins, and I know Roeper loved that for retelling Batman's origins in a serious manner.

And yet, just because Superman's origins were done over 30 years ago by Richard Donner, retelling it with the same care as Batman Begins is somehow a mistake and should have been skipped over.

 

[DanSupKP37]

Why would he like MOS if he liked IM3? They are different in tone.

IM 3 had plot problems, it had pacing problems and half way in they extended a giant middle finger to the audience.. Other than that is was a hell of a movie...

 

[TheComicbookKid]

I am confident it will. The criticisms I have heard so far have not swayed me in the slightest, particularly in the humorless department. Were they expecting one liners while he was saving people? And again, if they are expecting the gee golly Superman, that doesn't fly in this day and age. No pun intended.

Um. Isn't Superman supposed to an uplifting character of hope? That's how the GA sees him.

Th image of a guy depressed about his life and purpose vs. guy smiling and upbeat. On paper, the later is more like what Superman is described as to the GA.

Just like no matter what Depp says, Tonto is the sidekick to the Lone Ranger. No amount of toughen the character is going to change the fact it THE LONE RANGER and TONTOt:

 

[Mad Love]

I hate to point out the bleeding obvious but there is the strong possibility that the movie isn't nearly as good as everyone hoped for.

The obvious is that the movie isn't being received as well as everyone hoped early on.

Highly debatable how much of that is really indicative of the movie's quality so it's not really a strong possibility. It's still early. Most people haven't seen it and the majority of reviews still haven't come in. It could go either way still.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

I am really shocked about this... I didn't see this negative MOS buzz coming at all..

This movie is still at 70%! That means 7 out of 10 critics approve. That is solid. You guys are acting like it's in the 40's!

 

[ThreadPool]

Eh... I'll be back after I see the movie in a couple of days. See you guys on the other side.