TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 5

[Princess Denise]

I'm unsure if anyone has noted this BUT....

Yesterday top critics was at 53% and right now it's at 63%.

Some internet reviewers might be going down, unsure what's going on there - but among the TOP critics it's go ing UP.

The top critics are liking it MORE than the internet critics. I think internet might be basing it off preconceived notions, while film critics are just looking at the film. As said, it's going up.

Yep, I noticed this and there are many top critics to come. Unfortunately, Richard Roeper's negative review has not been added to the RT score, but another top critic, James Berardinelli, hinted on twitter that his review is positive. But it is a complete mystery to how the others will go.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Unsure why it having that connection to SR is a bad thing or a thing to avoid to some people. Singer brought a lot of good to that film. The child, although I'm bias, is a great aspect to add because what an adoptee yearns for is that biological connection which we often get through our children since we don't have that with our families. And twisted what we want most - that connection to our biological world - against us. Unsure if Singer invented that being used against Clark, but if he did he should get the credit for it. It was a great and emotional punch to the gut Singer gave the character probably from what he knew would be a punch to him (he's also adopted). It just as the more emotional gravitas to it that very very few superhero movies ever reach with its conflict.

I personally really like SR. I love Jason. I went around calling my niece bucket head for years. I never understood the complaints about the little guy. So adorable. The moment when he realizes Clark looks like Superman is one of my favorites.

And what I'm saying is, the 3rd act sounds nothing like SR's to me, and the stretch of connective tissue is that it involves "changing the land." Otherwise, one is an alien invasion threat, and one is a growing rock. I don't blame the filmmakers for not making that connection, as I don't think many members of the audience will either.

I'm not arguing the other points: It's totally STM and Superman II, but I think they're more combined with Flyby than SR.

Was Flyby ever made? No.

And come on. Terraforming Earth for whatever reason is still terraforming Earth. It shouldn't be that hard of a connection to make.

 

[db85usa]

Yep, I noticed this and there are many top critics to come. Unfortunately, Richard Roeper's negative review has not been added to the RT score, but another top critic, James Berardinelli, hinted on twitter that his review is positive. But it is a complete mystery to how the others will go.

We could see a lot more positive reviews tomorrow and Friday. TITE is a good example of an RT rating that can climb back up.

 

[Shazam]

This is a interesting view i found.

by ishded197
Having seen the film, I think audiences will love it and don't think we should care as much about these reviews anyway. But since they are dominating this board, here is a great article covering the range of reviews:

http://www.newsarama.com/18065-early-man-of-steel-reviews-mostly-posit ive.html

As the article points out, all of the reviews are positive or mixed. Rotten Tomatoes has no outright BAD reviews. No one thinks this film is a failure. Most of the "rotten scores" are 2.5/4 or 3/5. This doesn't end up reflecting well on a site like RT that gives films a black and white, up/down score. If 2/3 of the reviews are positive and 1/3 mixed, that sounds like a decent critical reception to me. And this take on the character was always slightly controversial, so I feel like the number of mixed reviews shouldn't be too surprising. As I already mentioned, I've seen the film and think it's excellent and will really resonate with viewers this weekend.

It's telling that most of the reviews that are mixed come from the position that Superman just can't be taken seriously (and yet, something as fantastic like Lord of the Rings can? This says more more about the reviewer than the film. They just aren't willing to accept Superman as a serious scifi epic based on what they have seen before) Most of the "mixed" reviews seem to take the film to task for not feeling like the Donnerverse films in terms of tone. I'm A.OKAY with that! Even the apparently 'rotten' views praise the visuals, the acting, and the first half of the film. Cavill is also getting great praise (deservedly so. He rocks in the movie!) Hardly sounds like a critical drubbing

That's what I figured!

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Hello.

Goodbye? I never know how you want us to answer these things.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Terraforming Earth for whatever reason is still terraforming Earth. It shouldn't be that hard of a connection to make.

Hard to understand and hard to accept are two very different things

 

[flickchick85]

Unfortunately, Richard Roeper's negative review has not been added to the RT score, but another top critic, James Berardinelli, hinted on twitter that his review is positive. But it is a complete mystery to how the others will go.

Oh did he? He's one of my go-to critics (and the one I most expected to go negative), so I'll definitely take that as a good sign if he likes it.

 

[Anjow1060]

Just got back from seeing it.....


I was disappointed.

- Jow

 

[Poni_Boy]

That sucks. Sorry to hear it

 

[danoyse]

That's like saying "With all due respect you are an ass."

"This is an environment of welcoming, so you should just get the hell out of here."

...I miss The Office.

 

[Hammer!]

Even though I liked the movie, I agree with Poni Boy on a lot of issues. Now that a couple days have gone by and I have had time to digest the film, I'm starting to think that I preferred Iron Man 3, but that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it.

 

[flickchick85]

Was Flyby ever made? No.

And? It's still more like Flyby than SR, imo.

And come on. Terraforming Earth for whatever reason is still terraforming Earth. It shouldn't be that hard of a connection to make.

Terraforming having two definitions in this case, being done by two different methods and for two different motivations. Sounds like a stretch to me.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Hard to understand and hard to accept are two very different things

Ouch.

Just got back from seeing it.....


I was disappointed.

- Jow

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU THEN!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[ThreadPool]

Just got back from seeing it.....


I was disappointed.

- Jow

Unfortunate. I've heard the other complaints. I just wanna know what you thought of the score and cinematography.

 

[db85usa]

"This is an environment of welcoming, so you should just get the hell out of here."

...I miss The Office.

ROFL, I just started watching that again on Netflix. Gah it was great when Michael was around...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And? It's still more like Flyby than SR, imo.

It is very important to realize that Flyby was never a movie anyone actually watched. Superman Returns is. One does exist, and one doesn't exist.

Terraforming having two definitions in this case, being done by two different methods and for two different motivations. Sounds like a stretch to me.

A stretch. Creating New Krypton twice is a stretch?

 

[Anjow1060]

Ouch.


WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU THEN!?!?!?!?!?!

I happen to like emotional connections with characters that are well written in a well structured story before they turn into CGI Gumby's for a 1/2 an hour.

And this is coming from someone who ranted against how idiotic the critics were and how they were just being wrong for the past 3 days.

- Jow

 

[flickchick85]

It is very important to realize that Flyby was never a movie anyone actually watched. Superman Returns is. One does exist, and one doesn't exist.

You're not saying anything I'm not aware of.

A stretch. Creating New Krypton twice is a stretch?

Again, Luthor wasn't actually creating a new Krypton. He just used that phrase because of the source.

 

[db85usa]

It is very important to realize that Flyby was never a movie anyone actually watched. Superman Returns is. One does exist, and one doesn't exist.



A stretch. Creating New Krypton twice is a stretch?

As one who has also seen the film, Zod's intention is vastly different than that of Luthor's in SR. But yeah, it is basically the same thing just done a little differently.

 

[mace1]

Blade 1 55% -3/5 and blade 2 59% - 3/5 were not in 70's or 90's and i enjoyed those films then some or more many higher rated ones.

 

[Anjow1060]

Unfortunate. I've heard the other complaints. I just wanna know what you thought of the score and cinematography.

Score is amazing as standalone. In the film it doesn't feel like it works. Mainly because of the editing.

HATED the cinematography. The "Pop shot" as I've dubbed it annoyed the crap out of me. And I'm talking about the quick zoom / jump cut. It was overused and broke the flow of the scenes for me. Only felt right when Supes was focusing in on something... so.... once. Also the handheld really bugged me, more so than in Nolan's movies (which is to say it doesn't in those movies).

- Jow

 

[Princess Denise]

Oh did he? He's one of my go-to critics (and the one I most expected to go negative), so I'll definitely take that as a good sign if he likes it.

Here is his tweet:

James Berardinelli ‏@Reelviews 16h
In 2013, steel is stronger than iron, but only by the tiniest of margins...

Since he gave a positive review to IM III I take it he is hinting that MOS will be slightly better.

 

[ThreadPool]

"This is an environment of welcoming, so you should just get the hell out of here."

...I miss The Office.

Since the finale or since it stopped being funny?

 

[flickchick85]

As one who has also seen the film, Zod's intention is vastly different than that of Luthor's in SR. But yeah, it is basically the same thing just done a little differently.

To the point where audiences will be asking, "why are they doing this again?"

I have a hard time fathoming that since the main threat isn't a giant rock growing out of the ocean but an actual alien takeover.

 

[FourteenthAngel]

This is exactly why I need to see the film. I want to know why people seems to think this film is terrible. I still don't why people praise the Donner film like their god's gift to mankind or something. Half of these so-called critic are hardly objective. Though at the point, it is not looking for the Man of Steel.