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Women aren't confusing, you're just oblivious.
This too.
That's what my problem boils down to I think.

In terms of how I act around women, I feel extremely more confident than I ever have been, in terms of how I talk and interact with them.

But I'm also on a college campus, full of 18, 19, and 20 year old girls. I've learned to take the flirting as just that - flirting - with no meaning behind it. So it makes me hesitant to make a move because it's the whole "she's just young, that's how 19 year old girls act, she's not doing it cuz she's interested in me or wants to sex me up, young girls want to party and have fun, not be tied down 'dating' someone and being in a relationship" thing.

And I've never really known how to just take advantage of the "young, wants to be wild and party" mentality of young girls to just get laid. Plus, "just getting laid" isn't really my objective, sooo... yea. (Not that I wouldn't have a one night stand with an attractive girl, I totally would, but that's not really my strong point - not that I have one when it comes to women, lol)
Same here. Like I've always felt like I wasn't attractive enough for girls or that I didn't dress right, and I think I always put more pressure on myself by focusing solely on those ideas. But now, I've realized I am at least handsome (according to a lot of girls that I've come across) and I am funny when I don't try to be, and I've been more confident around girls now. But I feel like the thing that has held me back is that I'm also not looking to get laid, but rather to develop a real relationship, and I usually end up getting lost in a fantasy or where I want it to go. I think I get a little frustrated at times and it starts to show when things don't go as I had hoped.
 
Yeah, I realized that I screwed up by not asking her about herself when I first saw her, but now that I got meeting her over with, I really want another chance to at least try to make a move. I just need to figure out how because like I said before, I don't want to spend comic-con looking for her because I know I'll just fill myself with disappointment.

thank her for helping you find the book for your nephew and tell her how much he loved it (even if he didn't) and ask her to recommend something for your niece who is jealous. then move the conversation along, ask her what kind of books she likes, etc etc
 
well, im single.



AGAIN.


what else is new?


someone pass me the drugs and alcohol.....
 
thank her for helping you find the book for your nephew and tell her how much he loved it (even if he didn't) and ask her to recommend something for your niece who is jealous. then move the conversation along, ask her what kind of books she likes, etc etc
Yeah, I want to do something like this, but now I don't know when I can see her. Fridays are Sundays are my best bet, but she's probably going to be at the convention this weekend so if I go back to her job, it will have to be next weekend.
 
This too.

Same here. Like I've always felt like I wasn't attractive enough for girls or that I didn't dress right, and I think I always put more pressure on myself by focusing solely on those ideas. But now, I've realized I am at least handsome (according to a lot of girls that I've come across) and I am funny when I don't try to be, and I've been more confident around girls now. But I feel like the thing that has held me back is that I'm also not looking to get laid, but rather to develop a real relationship, and I usually end up getting lost in a fantasy or where I want it to go. I think I get a little frustrated at times and it starts to show when things don't go as I had hoped.

Women have done so much the past couple years to tell me all the right things I like to hear. I consistently get compliments on how handsome I am, how well I dress, how talented I am, how sincere I am. I have had multiple women tell me that if they weren't already with someone, they would date me. But through all that, I still struggle with getting anything beyond a first date. And most of the time I struggle even getting to that.

I had one girl tell me how much she missed me over the summer, and how much she wanted me to get in contact with her so we could get together. So then I contact her, and she gets all weirded out and has never been the same since. It's gotten to a point that now I think there's a mutual dislike between us. But then she gets after me the other night when a bunch of us are out because I "never talk to her anymore", and I'm just like "umm... you don't talk to me anymore, and when you do, you usually have attitude about it." I mean, she kinda blatantly disrespected me in front of a bunch of people at a party. One of the people there in particular noticed it and was like "damn, she really didn't need to do all that", and I hadn't even said anything to her that night. It was someone else who joked around about setting her up with me. She flipped out, offended at the very notion of being "set up" with me, and people were like "Why you gotta act like that? What's wrong with him?"

I had another girl who I met this semester, and when we met things started off awesome. We had a great time together going out with a bunch of other people in our department. She volunteered her number to me with the intention of me contacting her to take her out. I stayed in touch with her, asked her out, plans never worked out (she had a family emergency), and she even told me that she was sitting around bored one day, wanting something to do, and she was thinking about me, but she never texted me. Now she (seemingly) avoids me in class, as well as my texts and calls for some reason. I'm not really mad, I just don't get the sudden change. But she seems like a flake all around, like her asking me about auditions, and I contacted the director for her, and then she no showed the audition.

Another girl talked to me about how much she loved being around me, because I was so sincere, and she never meets sincere people anymore, and I was just such a bright spot in her life, and then she proceeds to give me a fake number when I asked her out... :huh::huh::huh:

On top of the girl who told me that she knew that I would treat her right if her and I ever had sex, but she'd still rather have sex with the guys who treat her like dog****, and then come ***** to me about how all guys are *******s because they all treat her like ****. And I'm like well, if you knowingly sleep with the guys that treat you like dog****, and knowingly don't associate yourself with the men who you know will treat you right, then you have nobody to blame but yourself. Then the other girl who told me she would enjoy sex with me, and showed interest in wanting to come to a party with me when she knew my intentions were nothing more than to get her drunk, take her back to my place, and screw her, to the point that she got mad at me when there was a party I went to without her, but then she avoids my calls and text messages, then comes around telling me how she misses me, and we she needs to come down to see me, but then never does when I invite her to places because she's avoiding my calls and texts again.

Anyways, I just rambled. I'm not really upset about any of it. Most of it I think is funny. My friend and I joke about most of it. But I think these are the reasons why I'm having a hard time actually making a move, because the girls that do show me interest (at least from my perspective) always just start avoiding me when I make a move to try to act on their interest. And some of these girls I deal with on a daily basis, so it makes things awkward when it goes from constant flirting and seeming mutual interest to subtle dislike in the blink of an eye, and just causes tension that I really don't want.
 
If that's all it takes to fall off the wagon, I ain't got nothing for ya.
lol i was jk about that.


it just seems that i cant keep a girl interested in me for very long.

or i get this bs about how im " amazing " and they're " lucky to have me " and then a couple days later all of a sudden it's " not working out " . and on the day when we were supposed to hang out a second time this week before i went to delaware she dumps me .... AND spends the whole ****ing day with this other guy....

wtf :csad::huh:

if it werent for that i would just forget about it. i mean its not like im not used to it . but the fact that i couldve possibly gotten a gf stolen by some scrawny ass , smug , annoying little **** .... i mean not to toot my own horn but id say im a MUCH better " catch " than this assclown. idk if that's even the case or not cause every time i asked her if she liked someone else she never gave me a straight answer. but whatever ..... id rather just be a typical " playa " that ****s girls then leaves but i cant even get that right.
 
it just seems that i cant keep a girl interested in me for very long.

or i get this bs about how im " amazing " and they're " lucky to have me " and then a couple days later all of a sudden it's " not working out " . and on the day when we were supposed to hang out a second time this week before i went to delaware she dumps me .... AND spends the whole ****ing day with this other guy....

wtf :csad::huh:

if it werent for that i would just forget about it. i mean its not like im not used to it . but the fact that i couldve possibly gotten a gf stolen by some scrawny ass , smug , annoying little **** .... i mean not to toot my own horn but id say im a MUCH better " catch " than this assclown. idk if that's even the case or not cause every time i asked her if she liked someone else she never gave me a straight answer. but whatever ..... id rather just be a typical " playa " that ****s girls then leaves but i cant even get that right.
Sounds like you actually dodged a bullet there. If this girl is so mercurial and you had just started dating, imagine what it would be like living with her. :o
 
Women have done so much the past couple years to tell me all the right things I like to hear. I consistently get compliments on how handsome I am, how well I dress, how talented I am, how sincere I am. I have had multiple women tell me that if they weren't already with someone, they would date me. But through all that, I still struggle with getting anything beyond a first date. And most of the time I struggle even getting to that.
Yeah, I've gone out with girls I liked before, but I've never really been on a first date, so when my friend kept saying that I was looking desperate, I was just frustrated because I can never seem to get to the point where I at least get that first date. Right now, that's my main objective, and once I get there, then I'll start worrying about what happens after that. But just a chance, just a date is all I'm asking for now.

I had one girl tell me how much she missed me over the summer, and how much she wanted me to get in contact with her so we could get together. So then I contact her, and she gets all weirded out and has never been the same since. It's gotten to a point that now I think there's a mutual dislike between us. But then she gets after me the other night when a bunch of us are out because I "never talk to her anymore", and I'm just like "umm... you don't talk to me anymore, and when you do, you usually have attitude about it." I mean, she kinda blatantly disrespected me in front of a bunch of people at a party. One of the people there in particular noticed it and was like "damn, she really didn't need to do all that", and I hadn't even said anything to her that night. It was someone else who joked around about setting her up with me. She flipped out, offended at the very notion of being "set up" with me, and people were like "Why you gotta act like that? What's wrong with him?"

I had another girl who I met this semester, and when we met things started off awesome. We had a great time together going out with a bunch of other people in our department. She volunteered her number to me with the intention of me contacting her to take her out. I stayed in touch with her, asked her out, plans never worked out (she had a family emergency), and she even told me that she was sitting around bored one day, wanting something to do, and she was thinking about me, but she never texted me. Now she (seemingly) avoids me in class, as well as my texts and calls for some reason. I'm not really mad, I just don't get the sudden change. But she seems like a flake all around, like her asking me about auditions, and I contacted the director for her, and then she no showed the audition.

Another girl talked to me about how much she loved being around me, because I was so sincere, and she never meets sincere people anymore, and I was just such a bright spot in her life, and then she proceeds to give me a fake number when I asked her out... :huh::huh::huh:

On top of the girl who told me that she knew that I would treat her right if her and I ever had sex, but she'd still rather have sex with the guys who treat her like dog****, and then come ***** to me about how all guys are *******s because they all treat her like ****. And I'm like well, if you knowingly sleep with the guys that treat you like dog****, and knowingly don't associate yourself with the men who you know will treat you right, then you have nobody to blame but yourself. Then the other girl who told me she would enjoy sex with me, and showed interest in wanting to come to a party with me when she knew my intentions were nothing more than to get her drunk, take her back to my place, and screw her, to the point that she got mad at me when there was a party I went to without her, but then she avoids my calls and text messages, then comes around telling me how she misses me, and we she needs to come down to see me, but then never does when I invite her to places because she's avoiding my calls and texts again.
Yeah, this all reminds me of the last girl I liked. She made me sound like the greatest guy ever with the way she used to brag about me to everyone she knew, and she seemed really interested in me for a while, but once I showed interest in her, she started to become flaky and would ignore all of my calls. She claimed she was busy, but I noticed she only did that with me, and not with any of her other friends. After a while I started to take it personally and even though we were still friends for about a year after all that, I decided to cut her out completely and I made sure to let her know since I didn't want to deal with her flip-flopping around anymore.

Anyways, I just rambled. I'm not really upset about any of it. Most of it I think is funny. My friend and I joke about most of it. But I think these are the reasons why I'm having a hard time actually making a move, because the girls that do show me interest (at least from my perspective) always just start avoiding me when I make a move to try to act on their interest. And some of these girls I deal with on a daily basis, so it makes things awkward when it goes from constant flirting and seeming mutual interest to subtle dislike in the blink of an eye, and just causes tension that I really don't want.
I've never really flirted with a girl before. It's always been something that I felt uncomfortable with since it was never a part of my approach. But I really hate when someone seems interested in you first until you decide to make a move, only to see they're not interested anymore. It does become frustrating after a while.
 
Yeah, I've gone out with girls I liked before, but I've never really been on a first date, so when my friend kept saying that I was looking desperate, I was just frustrated because I can never seem to get to the point where I at least get that first date. Right now, that's my main objective, and once I get there, then I'll start worrying about what happens after that. But just a chance, just a date is all I'm asking for now.

I haven't really had a first date in awhile. But that's partially my fault.

Since I started college, I had been on at least 1 date every semester. I'm going on my 5th now. But things got weird my 3rd semester. I had met a girl in one of my classes, and I didn't really pay her much attention like that. She was the little country girl that sat in the corner. For all intents and purposes, pretty plain. Especially compared to the big breasted blonde that I sat next to in class who always wore low cut tops and short skirts. Or the girl who was in my play with me who was the typical hot, flirty sorority girl with maybe the best legs I've ever seen. Well, after going out with the sorority girl a couple times, and realizing I didn't like her personality, I stopped pursuing her. And at the same time, I had been spending a lot of time with plain country girl in the corner, and her and I were really clicking. I decided to shift my focus to the girl that I was actually building some chemistry with. I made subtle little moves to test her interest, and she bought every one. She was the first to contact me, and when it was clear that there was a mutual interest, I decided to start trying to surprise her. She started sending me pictures in text message, and telling me where she'd be hanging out cuz she had like a 2 hour break between classes, so I started surprising her by showing up. She made it perfectly clear that she wanted my company, and we spent a lot of time together doing this.

In the meantime, I was kind of ignoring another girl who was putting her interest on kind of strong. For what it's worth, me and girl #2 did go out a couple times (once to a movie, where she laid on my shoulder through the whole thing, and the other I took her to one of the theatre shows at my school), but I didn't have much interest. Everytime I went out with her, I was thinking of the 1st girl. Problem was, the first girl lived in a town about half hour away, and was a single mother living with her mom and had a lot of home issues that she couldn't get away from, so her and I were never able to go out.

Well, long story short, it didn't work out with the first girl, and it really tore me up inside (I posted about her here a lot last year) because despite the fact that her and I never went out, emotionally we both got way too attached way too fast, because we did spend a lot of time together still, and due to her circumstances, she took our "relationship" to an emotional high that swept both of us up, and then she decided that she "couldn't handle it" and pushed me away.

Well, over my 4th semester, I did go out with the 2nd girl again, and she told me there that she didn't see me like that, and she said she never did. She says that all the times she talked to me about her sexual fantasies, it was just her making conversation, that she saw me as a friend, and that she had actually been seeing something else. How much of that is the truth, and how much of it is her realizing I was ignoring her and just keeping her as a backup girl, and not wanting to play that game, I don't know. Then there was another girl that I did like, that her and I did go out once, I had asked her out after a lot of heavy back and forth flirting, but it turned out she had a boyfriend and what I was wanting to be a date, was just her going out with a friend after a performance. But basically, after the main girl, I was so torn up about her that I didn't put forth any effort to get out and meet new girls. To be perfectly honest, I'm still not 100% over Courtney (the first girl), and I probably never will be, I probably had stronger feelings for her than any other girl I've ever known (it was the one time in my life where I was with a girl, and it truly felt like I was "supposed" to be with her), but I've reached the point where I'm ready to move on with someone else. Unfortunately, the scars are still there and I'm hesitant.

Yeah, this all reminds me of the last girl I liked. She made me sound like the greatest guy ever with the way she used to brag about me to everyone she knew, and she seemed really interested in me for a while, but once I showed interest in her, she started to become flaky and would ignore all of my calls. She claimed she was busy, but I noticed she only did that with me, and not with any of her other friends. After a while I started to take it personally and even though we were still friends for about a year after all that, I decided to cut her out completely and I made sure to let her know since I didn't want to deal with her flip-flopping around anymore.

That's pretty much what happened with Courtney. In the very beginning, she was telling her mother about me, she would brag about me to the rest of class, telling them about how her and I were spending so much time together. People in class asked me if something was going on between her and I, because they could see something bubbling. I kissed her after class one day, and my friend asked me "Did you just kiss Courtney?" and I said yes, and she replied "that's so sweet, you and Courtney would make such a cute couple. You have my approval" But once she took it to the emotional high, she backed out, and kinda just left me hanging. Everytime I tried to walk away, she'd come back around telling me how much she wanted me around, and that she knew she was wrong for how she was acting, and I tried to give her space when she needed it, and be close to her when she needed it. But between the back and forth her and I had, it finally got to a point where I couldn't take it anymore, and I had to tell her that I couldn't do it anymore. I wanted to be there for her, but I couldn't be left hanging like that.


I've never really flirted with a girl before. It's always been something that I felt uncomfortable with since it was never a part of my approach. But I really hate when someone seems interested in you first until you decide to make a move, only to see they're not interested anymore. It does become frustrating after a while.

I used to be afraid to flirt. Not so much anymore. I just gotta read a girl and see how she'll respond. Some girls, I walk straight up to them, put my arms around them, rub their leg, brush their hair, talk sweet to 'em, sometimes even give them a kiss. Some I know I can't do that with so I don't. I don't think I've misread too many of them, as I've only ever had 1 girl tell me not to do something. The rest typically seem to enjoy it, and embrace it. *After reading it, I should add a note that states, these are all girls I know, not just random girls I encounter that I go up to and rub on. These are all girls that I know, am around regularly, and we are comfortable with each other* I've become a lot better about reading women and knowing how they'll respond, I just can't read when their response is genuine, or just being a typical 19 year old college girl that likes the attention. Like one girl now that I'd really like to make a move on, and do a lot of my flirting with, but I think that a lot of it is just playful, and also she is in a show with me, so I'd hate to have that awkwardness going on. I've only ever dated one girl from a show, and that was well after the show was over, and it ended up being only one date. I think she used me for a free meal, lol.
 
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My current state of emotions toward this girl (as usual) brought about the making of this music video I just shot + edited recently:

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A bit experimental, but you don't want to be too literal :oldrazz:
 
Yeah, I want to do something like this, but now I don't know when I can see her. Fridays are Sundays are my best bet, but she's probably going to be at the convention this weekend so if I go back to her job, it will have to be next weekend.
Be careful. I wouldn't be surprised if your friend already talked to her, and maybe already pushed on your behalf for her not to be interested. I've known people to do that.

Just don't want you waiting for a bus that ain't coming.
 
But I'm also on a college campus, full of 18, 19, and 20 year old girls. I've learned to take the flirting as just that - flirting - with no meaning behind it. So it makes me hesitant to make a move because it's the whole "she's just young, that's how 19 year old girls act, she's not doing it cuz she's interested in me or wants to sex me up, young girls want to party and have fun, not be tied down 'dating' someone and being in a relationship" thing.

Women have done so much the past couple years to tell me all the right things I like to hear.

...

And some of these girls I deal with on a daily basis, so it makes things awkward when it goes from constant flirting and seeming mutual interest to subtle dislike in the blink of an eye, and just causes tension that I really don't want.

Maybe you should widen your sights and either be more picky about who you date. Or maybe go after someone who's going to grad school?
 
Maybe you should widen your sights and either be more picky about who you date. Or maybe go after someone who's going to grad school?
Seriously. Girls in college can be really stupid and not know what they want. I was there once too. :o

They can be really hot though. :oldrazz: I always feel inadequate as a woman when I walk back onto a college campus. :o
 
I haven't really had a first date in awhile. But that's partially my fault.

But basically, after the main girl, I was so torn up about her that I didn't put forth any effort to get out and meet new girls. To be perfectly honest, I'm still not 100% over Courtney (the first girl), and I probably never will be, I probably had stronger feelings for her than any other girl I've ever known (it was the one time in my life where I was with a girl, and it truly felt like I was "supposed" to be with her), but I've reached the point where I'm ready to move on with someone else. Unfortunately, the scars are still there and I'm hesitant.
Yeah, the first girl I met in college, I had the same feeling with her. Like I always said if I made a list of everything I wanted in a girl, she would hit every mark. And I still look at her and how we clicked to be my ideal version of how I want to meet and be with a girl when it finally works out.

But she left some scars on me, as well as the girl I liked last year. In fact, its been a year since I decided to make a serious effort into talking to a girl. And even then, I only talked to this last girl because she showed interest in me first, and at that point, it had also been a year since I talked to a girl because I was still hurt by the first girl. I've finally gotten over it and I let them both know how they hurt me recently, but there's still a little hesistation that I'm trying to shake when it comes to approaching a girl and not even flirting, but just trying to get a conversation going.

That's pretty much what happened with Courtney. In the very beginning, she was telling her mother about me, she would brag about me to the rest of class, telling them about how her and I were spending so much time together. People in class asked me if something was going on between her and I, because they could see something bubbling. I kissed her after class one day, and my friend asked me "Did you just kiss Courtney?" and I said yes, and she replied "that's so sweet, you and Courtney would make such a cute couple. You have my approval" But once she took it to the emotional high, she backed out, and kinda just left me hanging. Everytime I tried to walk away, she'd come back around telling me how much she wanted me around, and that she knew she was wrong for how she was acting, and I tried to give her space when she needed it, and be close to her when she needed it. But between the back and forth her and I had, it finally got to a point where I couldn't take it anymore, and I had to tell her that I couldn't do it anymore. I wanted to be there for her, but I couldn't be left hanging like that.
Yeah, I've gotten the same thing many times with the last two girls, where people see us together and think we're a couple and basically give me their approval. The problem is they don't see how things really are and how even though it looks perfect on the outside, for some reason, it never works out.

I used to be afraid to flirt. Not so much anymore. I just gotta read a girl and see how she'll respond. Some girls, I walk straight up to them, put my arms around them, rub their leg, brush their hair, talk sweet to 'em, sometimes even give them a kiss. Some I know I can't do that with so I don't. I don't think I've misread too many of them, as I've only ever had 1 girl tell me not to do something. The rest typically seem to enjoy it, and embrace it. *After reading it, I should add a note that states, these are all girls I know, not just random girls I encounter that I go up to and rub on. These are all girls that I know, am around regularly, and we are comfortable with each other* I've become a lot better about reading women and knowing how they'll respond, I just can't read when their response is genuine, or just being a typical 19 year old college girl that likes the attention. Like one girl now that I'd really like to make a move on, and do a lot of my flirting with, but I think that a lot of it is just playful, and also she is in a show with me, so I'd hate to have that awkwardness going on. I've only ever dated one girl from a show, and that was well after the show was over, and it ended up being only one date. I think she used me for a free meal, lol.
I think my whole problem with flirting started because I really hated how my father left after I was born because he was pretty much a player. He had gotten some woman pregnant right after I was born, and through him, I have a lot of siblings that I never met. So part of me always hated him for that, and I always told myself I would never be like that because I don't just want to hook up with someone, I want to be with someone that I can see myself having a serious relationship with for a long time, and I want to make it clear that that's what is on my mind. So I've always felt uncomfortable because I feel like I'm making it look like my intentions are different. But of course, then I just become the "nice guy".

Be careful. I wouldn't be surprised if your friend already talked to her, and maybe already pushed on your behalf for her not to be interested. I've known people to do that.

Just don't want you waiting for a bus that ain't coming.
Yeah I've also considered that, especially when she told me she might not be interested or looking for someone. I just wish if that were the case that my friend would be honest about it, even though she probably doesn't want to hurt me.

And I'm trying to move on. I've learned not to put all my eggs in one basket, but at the same time I don't think this is a book that's been entirely closed. Even if her friend is not looking for someone at the moment, that doesn't mean I can't at least talk to her and we can't become friends because honestly we don't really know each other.
 
Maybe you should widen your sights and either be more picky about who you date. Or maybe go after someone who's going to grad school?

I agree with this, and have for awhile, but I never come across those people unfortunately. I don't really meet anyone outside of school, and the ones that I do meet in school that are beyond that young college mentality are either taken (one girl that I have a huge crush on, one of the ones that told me she'd date me if she wasn't with her boyfriend) or I have not even a slight attraction to.
 
Well maybe you should meet girls not at school? I mean that's like me scouring my office building only to meet girls. Expand your horizon. I mean I know you "tried" online dating but maybe you should put more effort into that?
 
I've been thinking of a lot of things lately and I've come to the conclusion that I've changed a lot inside, especially when it comes to what I want in a man. And I must stress the word man because I've fallen for way too many "boys" in my sordid dating past. Now I just won't settle for anyone but someone on my intellectual level who can also indulge their inner child without being immature. Like I said I have a Yin Yang type of personality. There are times when I like to be sophisticated and mannered but there's also a side of my personality that just likes to have non-harmful fun. And this is what I look for in a man now.

P.S. I was just thinking of this and I decided to edit this post, but I like to go by my instincts a lot. I have just been thinking that all I need is time for all the pieces to just fall into perfect place for me. Right now I'm going through a pretty stressful time and I just need to get things settled.
 
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I'm sure you have enough friends.
Yeah, and I've been saying I don't need any more female friends, but at the same time, sometimes you never know what could happen when you become friends with someone because they just might be the person that introduces you to someone that you'll end up with.

But with this girl, there's some things that turn me off on her, but I still want to give her a chance before saying no to her for those reasons. I mean, I'd at least like to be able to say no to her as opposed to not even being given a shot of her saying no to me.
 
Give her a chance?

Does she even remember your name?

Just surprised you're putting more effort into this.
 
Then why are you asking for advice from us?

Just asking what people thought. Maybe there was a perspective I hadn't already heard.

Ferret: All I can say is be careful, you do get attached a bit too easily. Just remember to kill all feelings :p and you'll do fine. I was talking to a guy friend the other day and both of us realized that while neither of us are interested in each other the 'feelings' are there because, for lack of a better explanation, our hearts want to be attached and have nothing. So the closeness we have is creating a faux-relationship feeling. Just be careful and make sure there are 'rules' set up.

Trust me, I'm aware of my limitations and tendencies. Thanks for looking out for me though. :hrt:

I realize it may have been a little harsh, but it's probably a bad idea to move in with someone you have feelings for. Ferret definitely does have feelings for her too and they aren't friendship. Here's a question you need to ask yourself and be truthful with yourself in answering Ferrett. Say your roommate meets a guy and starts dating him and they are a great match, you'll be there for a large amount of that floating on cloud 9 stage. Will you be able to handle that? You can say you don't have feelings, but a couple of comments from your friends and you were already thinking about the potential for something more between you two. I don't know, sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

Handle it? Yeah. I'm not up all night pining for this girl and yanking it to her picture. She's a friend I once had strong feelings for, who I find attractive. I'm actually at a rare point in my life where I'm not infatuated with some woman, and I'm hoping to keep it that way so I can work on improving who I am.

Ferret - Just by bringing it up, it seems like there still might be some attraction there. Not a bad thing, just an observation.

There is some attraction there, I'm not doubting that. I'm only friends with hot chicks, no uggos allowed. :o

Maybe feelings are feelings because we feel them? :huh:

Seriously, we can't help how we feel. Just cause this cat was married and as against being with a married man as you are, that doesn't prevent you from developing strong feelings for him.

You may not be able to help how you feel, but you can help how you react to those feelings, and that's what's important.
 
Well maybe you should meet girls not at school? I mean that's like me scouring my office building only to meet girls. Expand your horizon. I mean I know you "tried" online dating but maybe you should put more effort into that?

I agree with you, but this is pretty much a college town, and that's pretty much all that's here. Everything in town is geared towards the college crowd, so all I'm ever around is the younger 18-21 year old crowd.

The few things I am involved in in the community where I'd meet older people, all the women that are closer to the age I'd prefer are always taken and have kids and stuff. It seems like down here in the south, women are settling down, getting married and having kids by 22. It's like everyone in my area is either a young college girl who just wants to party and have fun, and not be tied down, or if they are looking for someone to settle down with - they are already settled down.
 
I'm feeling Nell2ThaIzzay that maybe you are not making a strong enough of an emotional connection with those girls that flake on you. Because I feel that if you did, they would drop everything to do stuff with you. It's great that you flirt with these girls and it's good to have a sexual undertone and be ok with that but do you have at least one real moment with them where it's like 'WOW'? You know, for example, where by you noticing something about her, she gets something about herself that she never knew?
 
Something I don't get and have probably talked about before: guys go crazy for me over the internet. I don't really do anything special, but almost every male internet friend I've had ends up with some sort of feelings for me. But in real life, I may as well be called Ms. Cellophane. I get zero male attention except for ones that just want to be friends. I used to wonder if I was ugly or something. I'm perfectly fine being single, I don't need a relationship to validate me as a person, and I don't think I'm ugly anymore and no longer care if anyone else thinks I am, but it's still perplexing.
 
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