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That's actually what I was afraid of had my friend set me up with her friend who smokes. I wouldn't really tell her to quit or to stop, but I know at some point I would at least try to convince her that it's not healthy and that maybe she should stop. I know that wouldn' most likely not end well, since its hard to be around someone who smokes, let alone date them.

dude, if you don't smoke don't even compromise your lifestyle to be around someone who smokes . . . it's called having standards; I smoked for like 10 years, and now that I don't I generally don't hang out w/ smokers . . . I will still bone a chick that smoke though *shrug*

My problem is letting a girl know this, especially the kind of girls that I'm always around. I feel like a lot of them only think I'm trying to hit on them for one thing, when really my intentions are never that. I don't have "game" so that why it's always been hard to try and flirt with girls.

I saw what you said before about "hitting on" women. What you have to do, is NOT hit on them; or not make it obvious that you're "hitting on them"; but you also shouldn't go out of your way to act like you're NOT hitting on them; this makes you look weak and like a "friend"; you have to be genuinely interested in them, not just act interested in them. It's true that all the hot chicks have dudes spittin weak one-liners at them all the time, that's why you have to be genuinely interested in what they have to say; and that's what's part of getting to know somebody; just cuz they're hot doesn't mean you have to like them either; you might talk to them for 5 minutes and realize they're hot and lame Lol
 
If you need to know anything about love it's that love hurts you to your core. You can't have love without pain.
 
I don't agree with this.

Why not? It's not all sunshine and rainbows. Love can and will hurt you when you find the right one, especially if you have obstacles in your way. I think people are delusional who think love is just one big fairy tale where you'll be happy all the time.
 
Pain is love.

And I have so much love to give. :)
 
Why not? It's not all sunshine and rainbows. Love can and will hurt you when you find the right one, especially if you have obstacles in your way. I think people are delusional who think love is just one big fairy tale where you'll be happy all the time.
It is possible to alter your perspective so that you don't see every negative experience while you're in love as pain. In my experience, I have found that the "painful" times associated with love have less to do with the emotion or feeling that one feels, and more to do with personal insecurities brought into the situation. It is a choice to associate the two as a pair.
 
Love is horrible, and amazing all at the same time.
 
It is possible to alter your perspective so that you don't see every negative experience while you're in love as pain. In my experience, I have found that the "painful" times associated with love have less to do with the emotion or feeling that one feels, and more to do with personal insecurities brought into the situation. It is a choice to associate the two as a pair.

Maybe it has more to do with the fact I have a very big heart then because I feel pain that much more when I'm in love with someone but the path isn't an easy one to walk down. I guess a love worth fighting for and keeping is excessively difficult and painful but much more rewarding than an easier obtained one.
 
Maybe it has more to do with the fact I have a very big heart then because I feel pain that much more when I'm in love with someone...
Why do you feel more pain when you're in love?
... but the path isn't an easy one to walk down. I guess a love worth fighting for and keeping is excessively difficult and painful but much more rewarding than an easier obtained one.
The idea of "fighting for love" has never made sense to me. I can see what it implies, the whole "overcoming what you see as an obstacle to be with someone you care about" thing; but that always seemed less like fighting and more like a challenge. Challenges read more like momentary hindrances in the grand scheme as opposed to a "fight" which reads like a struggle without a victor. I suppose I just choose to take all the pressure off the emotion itself and put it more on those involved and the perspectives therein, namely mine.

I am not saying this approach works for everyone, but it has helped me bring a lot more happiness into my and my loved ones' lives.
 
Why do you feel more pain when you're in love?

Well, because the ones I fall in love with usually are:

A.) Married
B.) Already in a relationship with another woman.
C.) Gay

The worst pain I generally tend to feel is when I really fancy a guy, have no idea of his marital status, but then find out he's married after I've developed a strong connection, like a younger guy I'd developed a crush on. It's like trying to rip out my own heart when I try to kill the feelings. It feels like I could just bleed forever with pain in my heart.

The idea of "fighting for love" has never made sense to me. I can see what it implies, the whole "overcoming what you see as an obstacle to be with someone you care about" thing; but that always seemed less like fighting and more like a challenge. Challenges read more like momentary hindrances in the grand scheme as opposed to a "fight" which reads like a struggle without a victor. I suppose I just choose to take all the pressure off the emotion itself and put it more on those involved and the perspectives therein, namely mine.

I am not saying this approach works for everyone, but it has helped me bring a lot more happiness into my and my loved ones' lives.

Well, I agree that love should never come easy because when it's too easy you and/or the other person just take it for granted way too much. This leads to boredom and complacency which then leads to looking outside of your relationship/marriage for thrills. I'm guessing you are a man because I am a woman and we tend to handle emotions a lot in not the same way as men do. I read this in an article a few years ago but our brains are hard wired a bit more differently than men's brains. Think of our brains as a string of lights. Men will have only portions of it blinking at certain times depending on what is demanded of it. Women on the other hand will have all the lights blinking on and off with others staying completely on. This I guess is why we feel things much more strongly, like love and such.

Another problem I have is that sometimes I get these feelings that I don't deserve as good a man as I've developed a crush for, like I'm too Low Class for their love. That causes me a great deal of anguish in that I feel like I am unworthy of his love because of my circumstances, that I shouldn't strive for someone higher than my economic status.
 
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Well, because the ones I fall in love with usually are:

A.) Married
B.) Already in a relationship with another woman.
C.) Gay

The worst pain I generally tend to feel is when I really fancy a guy, have no idea of his marital status, but then find out he's married after I've developed a strong connection. It's like trying to rip out my own heart when I try to kill the feelings.
You fall in love with these men despite their status?

or

You fall in love with these men without knowing their status?

If you find yourself falling for someone before you are aware of their relationship status or sexual preference then you may be getting a little too easily attached. I can agree with the assessment that you do not choose who you love, however, you do have control of your thought process. If a person is unavailable, for whatever the reason, it is usually best to move on as further attempts would be futile and thus result in disappointment, i.e. pain.

Another problem I have is that sometimes I get these feelings that I don't deserve as good a man as I've developed a crush for, like I'm too Low Class for them. That causes me a great deal of anguish in that I feel like I am unworthy of his love because of my circumstances, that I shouldn't strive for someone higher than my economic status.
Personal insecurity can be a large deterrent in finding a lasting relationship, or even one that doesn't last. I feel like this is a common line of thinking, and without completely changing the way you think, there doesn't seem to be a quick-fix. One effective way of overcoming such an obstacle is to find the exception to this rule for yourself. Eventually you will meet someone that shatters that preconception you have about your class, be it a romantic interest or otherwise. Regardless of how you choose to handle your situation it is patience and perception that will see you through the turbulent periods.
 
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It is possible to alter your perspective so that you don't see every negative experience while you're in love as pain. In my experience, I have found that the "painful" times associated with love have less to do with the emotion or feeling that one feels, and more to do with personal insecurities brought into the situation. It is a choice to associate the two as a pair.
That's been my experience too.

Why do you feel more pain when you're in love?

The idea of "fighting for love" has never made sense to me. I can see what it implies, the whole "overcoming what you see as an obstacle to be with someone you care about" thing; but that always seemed less like fighting and more like a challenge. Challenges read more like momentary hindrances in the grand scheme as opposed to a "fight" which reads like a struggle without a victor. I suppose I just choose to take all the pressure off the emotion itself and put it more on those involved and the perspectives therein, namely mine.

I am not saying this approach works for everyone, but it has helped me bring a lot more happiness into my and my loved ones' lives.
I agree with this as well, but I'm a diehard optimist. :funny:

Well, because the ones I fall in love with usually are:

A.) Married
B.) Already in a relationship with another woman.
C.) Gay

The worst pain I generally tend to feel is when I really fancy a guy, have no idea of his marital status, but then find out he's married after I've developed a strong connection. It's like trying to rip out my own heart when I try to kill the feelings.
That's pain? I had another perspective of love as pain after reading this article, where a mother writes about loving her child, whom she knows will die before he can understand even parental love. :waa:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/16/opinion/sunday/notes-from-a-dragon-mom.html

THAT is PAIN. What we experience in comparison is mere inconvenience.

Well, I agree that love should never come easy because when it's too easy you and/or the other person just take it for granted way too much. This leads to boredom and complacency which then leads to look outside of your relationship/marriage for thrills. I'm guessing you are a man because I am a woman and we tend to handle emotions a lot in not the same way as men do. I read this in an article a few years ago but our brains are hard wired a bit more differently than men's brains. Think of our brains as a string of lights. Men will have only portions of it blinking at certain times depending on what is demanded of it. Women on the other hand will have all the lights blinking on and off with others staying completely on. This I guess is why we feel things much more strongly, like love and such.
I believe men can feel love as strongly as women. Most of them just don't show it on the outside as much. My dad is very stoic normally, but when my mom was physically unwell, my sister (who was still living at home) would report that sometimes he'd lock himself into his study and scream because the woman he loved was sick and he couldn't do anything about it. It actually scared her because he's normally so quiet and doesn't show emotions like that.

A teacher I have right now - his wife of 35 years died two months ago and he still talks about her, and you can totally feel that there's just this hole in his life where she used to be. :csad:

And I don't know, all the guys I'm friends with would never cheat on a girl. But they're all nerds who don't have any "game" with women so they might figure someone who would be with them would be someone to stick with. :funny: Or that they're so busy on their projects that they wouldn't have time/energy to go find more poontang. :oldrazz: My married coworker and I actually joked about that when I told her my bf was moving upstate. "I'm not worried he'll cheat because...." "...they're lazy, right?!?!" :lmao:

So to get someone faithful, I wholly recommend finding a nerdy guy. :awesome:
 
Nerdy guys tend to appreciate.

In every sense.
 
url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/16/opinion/sunday/notes-from-a-dragon-mom.html[/url]

THAT is PAIN. What we experience in comparison is mere inconvenience

Believe it or not but have experienced that level of pain at a young age of a life lost, and not by choice, before it had a chance to start though I didn't comprehend it at the time being such a young child. I don't want to go into details because it's way too personal to talk about in a public forum like this.

Also, what I've been through the past couple of years, and why i took such a long break from the Hype has thoroughly scarred me because of the level of malevolence of it all. Because of it I can't live a normal life but I don't want to go into detail because that too is much too personal to put in this forum.
 
Believe it or not but have experienced that level of pain at a young age of a life lost, and not by choice, before it had a chance to start though I didn't comprehend it at the time being such a young child. I don't want to go into details because it's way too personal to talk about in a public forum like this.

Also, what I've been through the past couple of years, and why i took such a long break from the Hype has thoroughly scarred me because of the level of malevolence of it all. Because of it I can't live a normal life but I don't want to go into detail because that too is much too personal to put in this forum.
It seems as though you really would like to talk about this with someone and if it is affecting your life as much as it is, perhaps exercising that experience with someone can help you find closure for that event. At some point, regardless of the tragedy, you have to begin living your own life again. Your life will continue, though horrific and wonderful events, why not look forward to the wonderful ones instead of hanging on to the horrific?

Live in the present, the past is behind you for a reason.
 
It seems as though you really would like to talk about this with someone and if it is affecting your life as much as it is, perhaps exercising that experience with someone can help you find closure for that event. At some point, regardless of the tragedy, you have to begin living your own life again. Your life will continue, though horrific and wonderful events, why not look forward to the wonderful ones instead of hanging on to the horrific?

Live in the present, the past is behind you for a reason.

I try. I really do, but it just always seems like things work against me all the time, things I just can't help.
 
Nerdy guys tend to appreciate.

In every sense.
Definitely. :awesome: I sooo :hrt: the nerds.

Believe it or not but have experienced that level of pain at a young age of a life lost, and not by choice, before it had a chance to start though I didn't comprehend it at the time being such a young child. I don't want to go into details because it's way too personal to talk about in a public forum like this.

Also, what I've been through the past couple of years, and why i took such a long break from the Hype has thoroughly scarred me because of the level of malevolence of it all. Because of it I can't live a normal life but I don't want to go into detail because that too is much too personal to put in this forum.
You certainly don't have to talk about your experiences here if you don't want to, but wouldn't such a loss make you way more knowledgeable about such things than me? Then again I tend to look at the big picture...

And I don't know...it depends on your opinion of "normal" is. If you're living an unconventional life (and I definitely know people who do), it doesn't matter what other people think as long as you're happy. Believe me, you can find communities of like-minded people anywhere. Someone I know from middle school ended up a total hippie who loves firedancing and writing poetry while working part-time at Whole Foods, and even he's found a community of like-minded people who think he's awesome. :funny:

If you're not happy, it's time to make a change somehow. But only you can do that.
 
I try. I really do, but it just always seems like things work against me all the time, things I just can't help.
I get the feeling that the "obstacles" and "things" that work against you are your own. It's very normal for a person to remain in a hurting state after a trauma because they feel guilty about letting go of the pain. The usual notion being that letting go and moving on means they no longer care about what happened. If you remove yourself from the situation and look at it from an outside perspective you can see that all you're doing is unnecessarily lengthening your misery. I am in no way saying that you shouldn't grieve when something unfortunate happens, but to prolong that grief and fool yourself into thinking that is the way you need to exist is only robbing you of your own life.
 
Maybe it has more to do with the fact I have a very big heart then because I feel pain that much more when I'm in love with someone but the path isn't an easy one to walk down. I guess a love worth fighting for and keeping is excessively difficult and painful but much more rewarding than an easier obtained one.

maybe you wear your heart on your sleeve; it's easy to get hurt wearing it there; put it back where it belongs . . . underneath a kevlar-coated vest
 
I try. I really do, but it just always seems like things work against me all the time, things I just can't help.

that's the kind of attitude that makes things not work buddy; postive outlook yields positive results
 
In my experience it seems as though shyness comes from insecurity. Knowing that, it becomes easier to strike up conversation with new people, female or otherwise, simply because they would know nothing about you, hence there would be nothing to be insecure about.
True. I will admit that deep down inside I've been very insecure about myself. It hasn't been until recently that I've started to believe the positive reinforcement that people have given me and have come to believe that I actually am someone that is worth getting to know. I just need to find a way to apply that mentality to some action.

dude, if you don't smoke don't even compromise your lifestyle to be around someone who smokes . . . it's called having standards; I smoked for like 10 years, and now that I don't I generally don't hang out w/ smokers . . . I will still bone a chick that smoke though *shrug*
I think I'm going to have to chalk that one up to being a little desperate and eager to make it work. I mean there were some cool things that my friend told me about this girl, but deep down inside, I was trying to convince myself that despite the many other things that we wouldn't see eye to eye on, that I would still make it work. But then at that point, its more like I'm trying to force it to work and that just wouldn't be fair.

I saw what you said before about "hitting on" women. What you have to do, is NOT hit on them; or not make it obvious that you're "hitting on them"; but you also shouldn't go out of your way to act like you're NOT hitting on them; this makes you look weak and like a "friend"; you have to be genuinely interested in them, not just act interested in them. It's true that all the hot chicks have dudes spittin weak one-liners at them all the time, that's why you have to be genuinely interested in what they have to say; and that's what's part of getting to know somebody; just cuz they're hot doesn't mean you have to like them either; you might talk to them for 5 minutes and realize they're hot and lame Lol
This makes me realize that I have never really tried to just get to know someone. Its always been more like I want to know more about someone I have feelings for so that I could justify those feelings as opposed to actually getting to know them and letting that determine whether I have feelings or not. Kinda like with this last girl and how I wanted t get to know her even though I already liked her without meeting her.
 
Liking someone without knowing them is called lust. It's pretty common to confuse lust for something more.
 
I prefer the term infatuation. Lust just sounds dirtier.

:oldrazz:
 
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