BvS Ben Affleck IS Batman - - - - - - - Part 34

[morningmimosa]

I think Ben's just at that age where he gets a slight double chin if he isn't watching his calorie intake; and it's more noticeable when he's clean-shaven. That's understandable, though, as he hasn't been training as hard in recent months.

He put on some extra pounds for Live by Night.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

He put on some extra pounds for Live by Night.

Yes, I know. That makes sense, considering the role he's playing. I read somewhere that he did the same for Gone Girl.

 

[Baneis8feettall]

- be me, be christian bale
- built up some serious mass
- brucegains.gif
- director tells me to slim down so I look more like a martial artist
- r.i.p fortress of swolelitude
- whatever, looking forward to some incredible ass-kicking since I'm the goddamn Batman, master of over 100 martial arts
- thisgonbegud.exe
- mfw I lost them gains for street brawling and shaky cam

 

[Baneis8feettall]

I hold that as the single most amazing "Batman" sequence in any of the movies. Simply brilliant, and so "Batman".

As impeccable as Batfleck looks, I'll be very very impressed if they manage to match or top that scene. That scene was the perfect storm of tension, score, intensity, and Bat-prowess. It was really built up by the whole movie before it, as it was kinda the first time Batman actually outdid the Joker.

TDK and generally those series were thrilling & emotional experience. I don't expect anything like that from Synder...

I think Suicide Squad has more potential for that kinda stuff..

 

[hafizbat]

^Same. That kinda stuff requires great writing and directing, and in all honestly nothing Snyder has ever done has made me think he's capable of pulling something like that off. I know Snyder is touted for his action and his visuals, but I'm only really impressed by the visuals. His slo-mo, pose-y action doesn't really do it for me.

 

[craigaat]

I thought Rorschach taking on the police team in Watchmen was awesome, and the opening fight between The Comedian and Ozymandias was a better brawl than anything we saw in TDK trilogy.

 

[morningmimosa]

I thought Rorschach taking on the police team in Watchmen was awesome, and the opening fight between The Comedian and Ozymandias was a better brawl than anything we saw in TDK trilogy.

Every Rorschach scene was great, god I love Watchmen.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Watching the sneak peek footage, specifically the scene where Superman rips off Batman's mask, it was hard not to be reminded of Rorschach's famous line from Watchmen: "My face!! Give me back my face!!!"

 

[Baneis8feettall]

Watching the sneak peek footage, specifically the scene where Superman rips off Batman's mask, it was hard not to be reminded of Rorschach's famous line from Watchmen: "My face!! Give me back my face!!!"

It's okay. Rorschach stole Batman's voice and got away with praise. Let Batman steal his some of his scenes. There is couple of shots would look great on Batman.

 

[jokesonm3]

You know early on when Affleck was cast as the caped crusader my initial thoughts were that Snyder has done justice with Rorschach so i'm sure he'll do justice to Batman.

Boy was i right.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

It's okay. Rorschach stole Batman's voice and got away with praise. Let Batman steal his some of his scenes. There is couple of shots would look great on Batman.

The mask-revealing scene in Watchmen can also be partially credited to Batman writers. It's just a unique take on a popular interpretation of the character's dual identity: that of the cowl being his true face, whereas the playboy Bruce persona serves as the mask.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

^ There's actually a great story from Gotham Knights, where Batman teams up with Bane to go in search of some missing artifact. They arrive at a temple with Jason Blood aka Etrigan, who subsequently informs Bane to remove his mask. Bane questions this, and Blood tells him that it's forbidden for anyone to enter the temple with his true face concealed. Bane then witnesses Batman enter the temple without removing his cowl, turns to Blood and says, "What of the Batman? Is he not required to show his true face as well??" Blood replies, "That is his true face!!"

 

[rockandrollsoul]

I hold that as the single most amazing "Batman" sequence in any of the movies. Simply brilliant, and so "Batman".

As impeccable as Batfleck looks, I'll be very very impressed if they manage to match or top that scene. That scene was the perfect storm of tension, score, intensity, and Bat-prowess. It was really built up by the whole movie before it, as it was kinda the first time Batman actually outdid the Joker.

That scene's ok, but if that's really the most Batman action sequence we've gotten, then that only shows how low the bar is in that department. That's one area that I have no doubt Snyder/Fong will set a new bar.

 

[BatLobster]

It's not just the action itself (the fighting is okay, the practical stunt at the end is pretty sweet though) that makes the scene great, it's the context. The idea that The Joker has laid this trap for the snipers to kill all the hostages...that Batman sense the trap, heads in there and then has to fight off the entire SWAT team AND Joker's henchmen while saving the hostages...all done with the implicit faith that the ferries aren't going to blow each other up.

Just terrific, exhilarating film-making and a great Batman characterization to boot. It's incredibly badass, yet the odds are sufficiently stacked against Batman on paper that you're still rooting for him like you would any protagonist in an action film.

 

[superboy13]

That scene's ok, but if that's really the most Batman action sequence we've gotten, then that only shows how low the bar is in that department. That's one area that I have no doubt Snyder/Fong will set a new bar.

Agreed. It's fine, but I wouldn't even call it the best Batman scene in Nolan's trilogy.

 

[Guts]

I thought it was odd that all of the characters during that scene in the Dark Knight simply used they're guns as flashlights instead of shooting them.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

It's not just the action itself (the fighting is okay, the practical stunt at the end is pretty sweet though) that makes the scene great, it's the context. The idea that The Joker has laid this trap for the snipers to kill all the hostages...that Batman sense the trap, heads in there and then has to fight off the entire SWAT team AND Joker's henchmen while saving the hostages...all done with the implicit faith that the ferries aren't going to blow each other up.

Just terrific, exhilarating film-making and a great Batman characterization to boot. It's incredibly badass, yet the odds are sufficiently stacked against Batman on paper that you're still rooting for him like you would any protagonist in an action film.

Oh, the situation itself (and the result) was awesome, I just wasn't too impressed with the action itself (also, wasn't a fan of the whole lens thing in that scene). Now, the chase / truck flip scene, that **** was exhilarating.

Agreed. It's fine, but I wouldn't even call it the best Batman scene in Nolan's trilogy.

Nor I.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

^ There's actually a great story from Gotham Knights, where Batman teams up with Bane to go in search of some missing artifact. They arrive at a temple with Jason Blood aka Etrigan, who subsequently informs Bane to remove his mask. Bane questions this, and Blood tells him that it's forbidden for anyone to enter the temple with his true face concealed. Bane then witnesses Batman enter the temple without removing his cowl, turns to Blood and says, "What of the Batman? Is he not required to show his true face as well??" Blood replies, "That is his true face!!"

Damn that sounds great. What run is this from?

 

[shauner111]

I thought Rorschach taking on the police team in Watchmen was awesome, and the opening fight between The Comedian and Ozymandias was a better brawl than anything we saw in TDK trilogy.

That may be true but that still has to do with visuals. Not story, character development. Zack is great at visuals and fights, when he's not going overboard with slow-motion video game stuff. But i never really get emotionally involved.

 

[superboy13]

That may be true but that still has to do with visuals. Not story, character development. Zack is great at visuals and fights, when he's not going overboard with slow-motion video game stuff. But i never really get emotionally involved.

And BB/TDK Nolan is the exact opposite: you get emotionally invested but the action itself is just okay.

 

[shauner111]

No. The action is phenomenal, but the fights aren't the greatest.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Damn that sounds great. What run is this from?

Batman: Gotham Knights #33.

 

[Rodrigo90]

That may be true but that still has to do with visuals. Not story, character development. Zack is great at visuals and fights, when he's not going overboard with slow-motion video game stuff. But i never really get emotionally involved.

I was instantly connected to the characters in BB, TDK and TDKR. Something would always allow sombre moments of story to dissolve into me, thanks to well-written characters and fantastic actors.
You have that with MOS, too. But the effect wasn't the same. Everything was too cold and proved to be emotionally disconnecting because of that.
It's telling a bleak story, with bleak performances, inside a bleak-looking world, where every scene jumps back and forth in a manner that doesn't connect you as well as it should.

Batman Begins managed to tell it's story and involve me. MOS told a story, in the same manner as BB, and didn't leave me with anything other than depression...

But the film isn't that bad. The drama, I felt could've been reinforced perhaps with a more better suited director...but nobody could've brought the visuals alive in the way Snyder did and with that, I felt those skills, partial of the complete reason, clashed with the story written for his movie. That's my honest opinion.

Snyder's visuals and direction, clashed with the writing. They didn't quite blend with each other.
Not all of it, mind. Just the scenes that needed to bring you feelings of involvement with the characters. It's because they're placed in such truly stunning, but very bleak settings and the while the acting serves the film in the way it has to, no character has the life you would see in the TDKT.

BvS, as far as the trailers have shown, may have rectified those upsets.

 

[hafizbat]

It's not just the action itself (the fighting is okay, the practical stunt at the end is pretty sweet though) that makes the scene great, it's the context. The idea that The Joker has laid this trap for the snipers to kill all the hostages...that Batman sense the trap, heads in there and then has to fight off the entire SWAT team AND Joker's henchmen while saving the hostages...all done with the implicit faith that the ferries aren't going to blow each other up.

Just terrific, exhilarating film-making and a great Batman characterization to boot. It's incredibly badass, yet the odds are sufficiently stacked against Batman on paper that you're still rooting for him like you would any protagonist in an action film.

Said it much better than I could

 

[DeadStroke]

It's not just the action itself (the fighting is okay, the practical stunt at the end is pretty sweet though) that makes the scene great, it's the context. The idea that The Joker has laid this trap for the snipers to kill all the hostages...that Batman sense the trap, heads in there and then has to fight off the entire SWAT team AND Joker's henchmen while saving the hostages...all done with the implicit faith that the ferries aren't going to blow each other up.

Just terrific, exhilarating film-making and a great Batman characterization to boot. It's incredibly badass, yet the odds are sufficiently stacked against Batman on paper that you're still rooting for him like you would any protagonist in an action film.

Saw this on Batman-News. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

Rumor (Latino Review) that The Batman will feature a gritty style featuring Deadshot and Joker.

Batman in the Justice League is just different, but still cool at the same time. We'll get dark and gritty Batman in Batfleck's movie.