Superman Returns Suit, Muscle.. is Brandon the problem?

[StarvingArtist]

I really hope Routh owns as Superman.

 

[KaptainKrypton]

I really hope Routh owns as Superman.

Me, too. Otherwise I'll have to have a tattoo removed due to shame.

 

[StarvingArtist]

Anybody else hope that Routh owns as Superman aside from me and the good Kaptain?

 

[Sverdlovski]

I really hope Routh owns as Superman.

I would say "so does every Superman fan", but than I realize that's not the case. Sadly.

But if he does own... DDD

 

[StarvingArtist]

I would say "so does every Superman fan", but than I realize that's not the case. Sadly.

But if he does own... DDD

Well you see, I tossed that statement out there because I'm curious...I'm of the opinion that everybody here really does hope that Routh is a monumental success and that Superman Returns will set the benchmark for not just Superman movies, but the superhero genre. I mean, why would you want the movie to flop? Are there really just so many things people have taken issue with that they'd rather somehow cut their losses and just refuse to enjoy anything about the movie?

 

[Sverdlovski]

Well you see, I'm curious...I'm of the opinion that everybody here really does hope that Routh is a monumental success and that Superman Returns will set the benchmark for not just Superman movies, but the superhero genre. I mean, why would you want the movie to flop? Are there really just so many things people have taken issue with that they'd rather somehow cut their losses and just refuse to enjoy anything about the movie?

I can't understand that either, but some people here think that way. Like trying to prove their point, "I TOLD YOU SO". If not, why would people bash and attack Routh and everyone involved with this movie without seeing a second of footage (*cough*Fanboy Xtream/FEAR THE KNIGHT*cough*)

 

[TheBat812]

Anybody else hope that Routh owns as Superman aside from me and the good Kaptain?

definetly. I'm pretty confident he will. Knock on wood.

 

[Excel]

i think hes great.

 

[StarvingArtist]

I can't understand that either, but some people here think that way. Like trying to prove their point, "I TOLD YOU SO". If not, why would people bash and attack Routh and everyone involved with this movie without seeing a second of footage (*cough*Fanboy Xtream/FEAR THE KNIGHT*cough*)

I think people are getting a little too caught up in their own arguments and forgetting what they're arguing about. I see it happening all over these boards and I think I have a pretty good idea why it's happening too. 90 percent of all of the communication contained in these threads is "I like this" vs "I don't like this" or vice versa. Guys, it's impossible to have a debate about stuff like that. All you're doing is spouting your opinions, getting pissed off that others don't share your view, and then spouting off some more until you've got people calling each other names like "stan" or "DOSV" or "suit lover" or whatever childish, bull**** you've come up with.

If you like or don't like something about the movie, why not try sharing your view with an open mind, willing to absorb new ideas and perspectives rather then just stating your opinion over and over and over again and annoy everyone around you. And that goes for both sides of the fence. Then maybe these boards wouldn't be so embarrassing and maybe even a little bit interesting.

 

[Sverdlovski]

I think people are getting a little too caught up in their own arguments and forgetting what they're arguing about. I see it happening all over these boards and I think I have a pretty good idea why it's happening too. 90 percent of all of the communication contained in these threads is "I like this" vs "I don't like this" or vice versa. Guys, it's impossible to have a debate about stuff like that. All you're doing is spouting your opinions, getting pissed off that others don't share your view, and then spouting off some more until you've got people calling each other names like "stan" or "DOSV" or "suit lover" or whatever childish, bull**** you've come up with.

If you like or don't like something about the movie, why not try sharing your view with an open mind, willing to absorb new ideas and perspectives rather then just stating your opinion over and over and over again and annoy everyone around you. And that goes for both sides of the fence. Then maybe these boards wouldn't be so embarrassing and maybe even a little bit interesting.

Ah... these boards are a reflection of the world. If everyone were open-minded like you say they should, there would be no wars....

 

[StarvingArtist]

Ah... these boards are a reflection of the world. If everyone were open-minded like you say they should, there would be no wars....

Hey, world is what you make of it

 

[Venom71]

Anybody else hope that Routh owns as Superman aside from me and the good Kaptain?

I hope and I believe he will own as Superman!

 

[Saph]

Excuse again? The one using excuse again are those who claim Routh is small, but is fine with Reeve & claim he is bigger. That a real excuse there.

People are saying Routh LOOKS small, and LOOKING small is a lot different from being small, especially on screen. Routh may be bigger than Reeve, but to some people Routh doesn't look as big as Reeve. You also neglect to include the other comic book movies such as Batman Begins, where Bale has larger muscles. Routh being smaller-looking than Bale makes Routh look worse to some people.

Then again, if he was the size of even O'Hearn, I wouldn't think he looks like Superman.

 

[Nightwing1977]

People are saying Routh LOOKS small, and LOOKING small is a lot different from being small, especially on screen. Routh may be bigger than Reeve, but to some people Routh doesn't look as big as Reeve. You also neglect to include the other comic book movies such as Batman Begins, where Bale has larger muscles. Routh being smaller-looking than Bale makes Routh look worse to some people.

Then again, if he was the size of even O'Hearn, I wouldn't think he looks like Superman.

Why do people keep bringing up Bale, when we're mention people who play Supes compare to Routh & not people who play Batman? So what if Bale is bigger. Maybe he have strong genetics & bulk up easier than Routh. We don't know & we never seen Routh without his shirt off so it too early to compare him with Bale. But at least I agree with you on the last sentence.

 

[Saph]

Why do people keep bringing up Bale, when we're mention people who play Supes compare to Routh & not people who play Batman?

This is the first time i've brung up Bale And i'm not talking about character, i'm talking about size.

So what if Bale is bigger. Maybe he have strong genetics & bulk up easier than Routh.

If an actor can't get to the size the director wants, then the actor should be fired. That's movie-making. But obviously Singer wants Routh to be this size.

We don't know & we never seen Routh without his shirt off so it too early to compare him with Bale.

Him having his shirt off is unimportant. How big he looks as Superman is the real issue.

But at least I agree with you on the last sentence.

Huh? You think Routh wouldn't look like Superman no matter how big he is? I think you misinterpreted what I said.

 

[Nightwing1977]

And i'm not talking about character, i'm talking about size. If an actor can't get to the size the director wants, then the actor should be fired. That's movie-making. But obviously Singer wants Routh to be this size. Him having his shirt off is unimportant. How big he looks as Superman is the real issue.

But why should Singer fired someone if he's supposely fantastic in the audition? If he fired him, then he might got someone else who is bigger, but suck in talent. I'm surprise Reeve wasn't fired when he won the audition when he didn't fit the look when fans heard he got the part. And I know having Routh not wearing shirt in the movie is unimportant, but it could be important to show people he's not small as he look.

 

[Saph]

But why should Singer fired someone if he's supposely fantastic in the audition? If he fired him, then he might got someone else who is bigger, but suck in talent.

Do you just skim over my posts or something? I clearly stated in my posts that Singer obviously likes Routh.

I'm surprise Reeve wasn't fired when he won the audition when he didn't fit the look when fans heard he got the part.

Again with comparing to Reeve. Reeve is like Bale, what really kept him in the role was how he bulked up. He could've been fired if he looked laughable, but Reeve bulked up.

And I know having Routh not wearing shirt in the movie is unimportant, but it could be important to show people he's not small as he look.

I find it funny how you are calling Routh smal-lookingl. I thought you thought he was big?
All I know is, with how movies are made these days, there is NO reason why Routh couldn't of bulked up a lot more for the role. The whole 'fitting for the suit' thing could've easily been worked around. Easily.

I have no idea why Singer wants a slim Superman.

 

[Venom71]

Do you just skim over my posts or something? I clearly stated in my posts that Singer obviously likes Routh. Again with comparing to Reeve. Reeve is like Bale, what really kept him in the role was how he bulked up. He could've been fired if he looked laughable, but Reeve bulked up. I find it funny how you are calling Routh smal-lookingl. I thought you thought he was big?
All I know is, with how movies are made these days, there is NO reason why Routh couldn't of bulked up a lot more for the role. The whole 'fitting for the suit' thing could've easily been worked around. Easily.

I have no idea why Singer wants a slim Superman.

So what you are saying is that size is more important than how good an actor the person is playing the part? (I am not saying Reeve wasn't a good actor)

 

[Saph]

So what you are saying is that size is more important than how good an actor the person is playing the part? (I am not saying Reeve wasn't a good actor)

No, but this is movie-making. If movie execs think an actor is too small or looks laughable for the part, they will fire him straight away. You think Bale would still be Batman if he didn't bulk up after the Machinist?

 

[Venom71]

No, but this is movie-making. If movie execs think an actor is too small or looks laughable for the part, they will fire him straight away. You think Bale would still be Batman if he didn't bulk up after the Machinist?

You have a point about Bale...but he was extremely too small after that movie...he wouldn't even got into the door for the audition if he actually stayed that small. Routh isn't laughable though.

 

[Saph]

You have a point about Bale...but he was extremely too small after that movie...he wouldn't even got into the door for the audition if he actually stayed that small. Routh isn't laughable though.

Yeah but you seem to think directors only pick people on acting skills. Another thing is Superman is an icon, shown with a big chin, broad shoulders, and very muscular. Directors know this, and pick their Superman accordingly.

Bryan obviously thinks Routh is the right size, though.

 

[Venom71]

Yeah but you seem to think directors only pick people on acting skills. Another thing is Superman is an icon, shown with a big chin, broad shoulders, and very muscular. Directors know this, and pick their Superman accordingly.

Bryan obviously thinks Routh is the right size, though.

Also Singer liked the chemistry between Routh and Bosworth...and I think that is important...that Lois and Clark have good chemistry.

 

[Saph]

Also Singer liked the chemistry between Routh and Bosworth...and I think that is important...that Lois and Clark have good chemistry.

I suppose. But I doubt Brandon was the only actor that did.

 

[Nightwing1977]

I suppose. But I doubt Brandon was the only actor that did.

But he probably the only actor that nail it better thought. That probably why Singer pick Routh. If he pick the right actor to play Wolvie in Hugh Jackman, then he probably done the same with Routh.

 

[skruloos]

But he probably the only actor that nail it better thought. That probably why Singer pick Routh. If he pick the right actor to play Wolvie in Hugh Jackman, then he probably done the same with Routh.

Now, you ARE aware that Jackman wasn't Singer's first choice, right? He was the best after the first choice had to drop out. I thought Singer made good casting decisions and I happen to think that Dougray Scott might have been a good Wolverine too.