The Avengers The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 4

[buttercup]

Whedon just posted on whedonesque.com about the perceived competition between TA and TDKR:

JW: But let's look at the bigger picture, and I can't say this enough: THIS IS NOT A ZERO SUM GAME. Our successes, whoever has the mostest, are a boon to each other. We're in the business of proving that superhero movies aren't just eye-candy (they're eye-TRUFFLES!). People seem intent on setting us against each other, and though I'm proud to be Woody Strode to Nolan's Kirk Douglas, I think they're missing the point. Whatever TDKR does on its first weekend, the only stat that matters to me is the ticket I'M definitely buying. Nolan and Raimi INVENTED the true superhero flick, yo. (Special mention to Jon Favreau and James Gunn.) Happy to be in the mix.

 

[04nbod]

Whedon just posted on whedonesque.com about the perceived competition between TA and TDKR:

Singer just got BURNED

 

[psylockolussus]

Booo! no mention of Bryan Singer!

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Rth says Tuesday is in the range of a 3-8% drop from yesterday, probably closer to 5%.

 

[thalidomide]

^^^^^^^^^^^ is that a good thing?

 

[Kalonthar]

Singer just got BURNED

Just too bad there was no mention of Donner.

 

[PokeJ]

Rth says Tuesday is in the range of a 3-8% drop from yesterday, probably closer to 5%.

Yeah, the only reason it is going to drop from Monday is b/c of discount Tuesday. Wednesday's drop is going to be harsh though. I could see it falling up to 20% percent.

 

[yads]

Rth says Tuesday is in the range of a 3-8% drop from yesterday, probably closer to 5%.

Wow @ possibillity of 5% drop! Please be true!

 

[Oruku Saki]

Bryan Singer???? WTF!! You take that back right now!!!!!!!!!!! Bryan Singer needs to be kept away from any future comic movie. If Disney wants Avengers 2 to nose dive into mediocrity then hire Singer. I never got the love for this man. He made a decent Xmen film that just didn't suck more then it was good. X2 was better and quite entertaining but it wasn't a faithful Xmen movie.

Superman Returns was a beautifully shot movie and that's it. I remember when the fans were giddy about Singer on SR and I had extremely high doubts but i kept my opinions to myself until i read that quote from Singer where he said he was making his first chick flick with SR and how it'll appeal to women and some other non sense that I didn't even bother to read the rest of the article. I knew then what we were gonna get and said it and warned everyone that he his gonna screw it up and he did. How do you get a 200 plus million budget and have an actionless Superman movie that was basically 2 hours of Supes just lifting stuff.

I don't share the love for Singer that some here do. He is one of the last directors on Earth that I would want near an Avengers sequel. I don't want Singer even bringing the water to the thirsty crew. I would take Michael Bay over him 100 fold. This coming from someone who is a fan of Bay, well from an action standpoint his films work but I don't want him on an Avengers sequel either unless he has no hand what so ever in scripting duties or a say in the script. Just shoot the movie and action sequences. Singer on the Avengers would send me to the hospital if I ever read that Headline. "Superman Returns Director Bryan Singer to take over for Avengers 2" Oh Lord my heart dropped just typing that.

Agreed. Singer is a HORRIBLE action/adventure director. Stick to producing "House" on fox and leave comic movies to the pros

 

[Gamma Burst]

Yeah, the only reason it is going to drop from Monday is b/c of discount Tuesday. Wednesday's drop is going to be harsh though. I could see it falling up to 20% percent.

How do you know it's gonna be 'harsh'?

 

[yads]

How do you know it's gonna be 'harsh'?

Wednesday is always a pretty big drop. 20% is hopefully not gonna happen (by comparison TDK dropped 12% and SM1 16%), but if it drops less than 10% it'll be flat-out incredible.

 

[AvengeME]

Failing to credit Singer is incredibly myopic and inconsiderate on Whedon's part. Singer presented a grounded realistic take of the universe. That made people take the genre seriously. There is no way a colorful, flamboyant presentation would have worked back in 2000 three years after Batman and Robin. It was the right approach. If I were directing an X-Men movie then, I would have taken the same exact approach as Singer.

I think the sequel trilogy, X4-X6, should be more of a comic book representation, but the original trilogy set the right tone.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Donner started it all and proved ”silly” comic book characters could become mega-blockbusters.

He cared about the character and made one of the best and most heartfelt comic book films of all-time without a template.

He deserves mention before Singer, Raimi and even Nolan.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's crazy that the seven people who voted for 1.5 billion might be the closest.

Wow.

 

[thalidomide]

It's crazy that the seven people who voted for 1.5 billion might be the closest.

Wow.

I hope it's true.

 

[04nbod]

Donner started it all and proved ”silly” comic book characters could become mega-blockbusters.

He cared about the character and made one of the best and most heartfelt comic book films of all-time without a template.

He deserves mention before Singer, Raimi and even Nolan.

Nolan doesn't even deserve a mention. Comics had been taken seriously and realistically before. Doing Batman deathly seriously isn't an innovation. Why are we putting him in the same breath as Donner or Singer who did something new?

 

[Shadowlord X]

Nolan doesn't even deserve a mention. Comics had been taken seriously and realistically before. Doing Batman deathly seriously isn't an innovation. Why are we putting him in the same breath as Donner or Singer who did something new?

Exactly.

I hate that people have forgotten that Bryan Singer gave birth to the modern comicbook superhero era.

 

[OB12]

All Whedon is trying to do is stamp out some of the TDKR vs. Avengers fire. One way to do this is to say that he is a fan and credit him for being a pioneer in the genre. I'm not really putting much weight behind who he mentioned or who he omitted.

 

[Shadowlord X]

It's crazy that the seven people who voted for 1.5 billion might be the closest.

Wow.

I was one of those. As I said before a sensed a phenomenon coming.

Right now I'm sensing 2 billion but I have to see the second domestic weekend BO.

 

[Shadowlord X]

All Whedon is trying to do is stamp out some of the TDKR vs. Avengers fire. One way to do this is to say that he is a fan and credit him for being a pioneer in the genre. I'm not really putting much weight behind who he mentioned or who he omitted.

You're probably right.

 

[thalidomide]

I was one of those. As I said before a sensed a phenomenon coming.

Right now I'm sensing 2 billion but I have to see the second domestic weekend BO.

2 million is impossible dude t:t:

 

[wobbly]

All Whedon is trying to do is stamp out some of the TDKR vs. Avengers fire. One way to do this is to say that he is a fan and credit him for being a pioneer in the genre. I'm not really putting much weight behind who he mentioned or who he omitted.

Yup. If you asked Whedon to expand on his comments he would probably mention Donner & Singer as well, but I think it was obvious he is just trying to put a damper on the inevitable 'my d##ks bigger than your d##k' stuff Marvel & DC fans can get involved in.

 

[El Payaso]

Meh, I still think Spider-Man 3 is OK and better than Batman: Forever. Sam Raimi simply shouldn't have been forced to use Venom and the black costume story.

True. He shouldn't have been forced to do the dancing Peter, the kitchen twist dancing, the stupid Spider-man parade. Oh wait... he wasn't.

 

[thalidomide]

not to mention the emo parker, man that was horrendous !!

 

[Shadowlord X]

Yup. If you asked Whedon to expand on his comments he would probably mention Donner & Singer as well, but I think it was obvious he is just trying to put a damper on the inevitable 'my d##ks bigger than your d##k' stuff Marvel & DC fans can get involved in.

DC fans have *****???


I'm kidding, just kidding. LOL.