The Avengers The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 5

[Micromind]

The Amazing Spider-Man and The Dark Knight Rises have direct competition with each other as the two movies are released within 15 days of each other, this will affect the box office collections of both movies.

Avengers had the advantage of not having any competition for at least one month.(let's admit The Battleship and Dark Shadows were not exactly the most anticipated movies)

I would be happy if TDKR makes more money than TDK (as it does not have the advantage of 3D inflating its earnings.)

If TASM makes 500 mil world wide, I will be happy. (and I feel it will make that much.)

 

[Micromind]

If any comic book movie can make more than Avengers, I feel that will be Avengers 2.

WB still has a long way to go before any team up movie like JLA can be made.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

If any comic book movie can make more than Avengers, I feel that will be Avengers 2.

WB still has a long way to go before any team up movie like JLA can be made.

As some people have said you could get away with just Batman and Superman solo movies before a JLA movie. Basically, the Zack Snyder reboot needs to be good and they have to also make a successful Batman reboot (that could exist in the same universe with Man of Steel) in the next few years and they could go from there.

 

[samsnee]

I think they should go a different route. Do a World's Finest movie with just Batman and Superman, and have it end with a bigger threat coming and the two realizing they will need other heroes to stop it.

 

[Nathan]

Wouldn't mind if a JLA Movie starts out like the JL cartoon. With Batman investigating something and Superman helping him out. And then you slowly bring in the rest of the team until all 7 are together at the final.

 

[04nbod]

Mamma Mia! beating The Dark Knight to #1 in the UK box office and grossing much more overall remains one of our country's greatest shames.

There is no shame in Colin Firth

 

[samsnee]

Wouldn't mind if a JLA Movie starts out like the JL cartoon. With Batman investigating something and Superman helping him out. And then you slowly bring in the rest of the team until all 7 are together at the final.

I have to admit though, what made Avengers exciting for me wasn't just seeing Thor, Cap, and everyone else on screen at the same time. It was also that we as an audience were already familiar with the actors in their roles from the other movies, and got fleshed out backstories on most of them.

If we were to see Green Lantern, Batman, Flash, etc all on screen, it would look cool at first. But assuming they're all new actors playing them, it won't have the same effect.

I know it's been said to death, but you really do have to give Marvel credit for trying to establish a shared universe first. If Avengers had completely sucked, then they took a big risk for nothing.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Three Avengers films are probably going to bank more than 7 billion dollars combined worldwide when this thing is all over.

and Disney bought Marvel for 4 billion. t:

 

[Iceman]

The Amazing Spider-Man and The Dark Knight Rises have direct competition with each other as the two movies are released within 15 days of each other, this will affect the box office collections of both movies.

Avengers had the advantage of not having any competition for at least one month.(let's admit The Battleship and Dark Shadows were not exactly the most anticipated movies)

I would be happy if TDKR makes more money than TDK (as it does not have the advantage of 3D inflating its earnings.)

If TASM makes 500 mil world wide, I will be happy. (and I feel it will make that much.)

Yes Avengers' competition has been pretty easy compared to later in the summer. If TDKR makes more money than TDK I think it will have been a massive success. Not sure how anyone can complain if it gets to that level.

I expect TASM to make more than $500m WW. The overseas market is a lot less quality conscious, loves 3rd/4th franchise sequels and SM3 was massive there. The 4th Pirates made $800m just overseas!!

 

[Vartha]

and Disney bought Marvel for 4 billion. t:

Bet they're glad they DID after JC bombed. I need to see that movie. I was a huge fan of the comicbook back when Marvel had it.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

The Amazing Spider-Man and The Dark Knight Rises have direct competition with each other as the two movies are released within 15 days of each other, this will affect the box office collections of both movies.

Avengers had the advantage of not having any competition for at least one month.(let's admit The Battleship and Dark Shadows were not exactly the most anticipated movies)

I would be happy if TDKR makes more money than TDK (as it does not have the advantage of 3D inflating its earnings.)

If TASM makes 500 mil world wide, I will be happy. (and I feel it will make that much.)

Like Whedon said, you're note dealing with a zero sum game here. I don't think there's really much "competition" so to speak between TDKR and TASM this summer as most people will see both.

 

[Iceman]

Like Whedon said, you're note dealing with a zero sum game here. I don't think there's really much "competition" so to speak between TDKR and TASM this summer as most people will see both.

True although if they love them both they'll rewatch them less. If Avengers & TDKR opened near each other I would have to split my number of rewatches between them rather than being able to go exclusive.

 

[Tony Stark]

i wouldn't say Bane is Batman's weakest villain certainly not the greatest like Joker or Penguin or Two Face but he surely isn't his weakest i mean the dude broke him in the comics

Weakest character, I didn't mean physically weak.

 

[Docker2.0]

Weakest character, I didn't mean physically weak.

I agree. I think they should have went with the Riddler or even Black Mask. Bane just doesn't seem right thus far. With the Joker, Heath was amazing. The commercials leading up to TDK made me want to see that movie badly. Heck I watch clips of it now just for the Joker. With Bane it's like eh. I will see it and it will make money but I just don't see it making anywhere near what TDK did.

 

[Frodo]

It really seems like Avengers mania is sweeping the country. It seems like everywhere I go, people are taking about it and they all talk about it with huge smiles on their faces. I'm also finding that women are talking about it a lot which isn't the norm for these kind of films. The film has gone beyond a hit and has become a phenomena .

 

[Marvin]

Wouldn't mind if a JLA Movie starts out like the JL cartoon. With Batman investigating something and Superman helping him out. And then you slowly bring in the rest of the team until all 7 are together at the final.

That would be rich

 

[Raiden]

As some people have said you could get away with just Batman and Superman solo movies before a JLA movie. Basically, the Zack Snyder reboot needs to be good and they have to also make a successful Batman reboot (that could exist in the same universe with Man of Steel) in the next few years and they could go from there.

Well, the problems are one, there's no guarantee that MOS will become a hit (even with Snyder and Cavill involved), and two, there's a chance that the Batman reboot may not work well post-Nolan as well. Basically, WB will have to get both of these movies successful enough to make a WF or JLA movie work, and as we have seen from GL and SR, nothing is certain.

 

[Godzilla2000]

I guess when all is said and done I was absolutely wrong with my prediction.

 

[spider-neil]

Like Whedon said, you're note dealing with a zero sum game here. I don't think there's really much "competition" so to speak between TDKR and TASM this summer as most people will see both.

a lot of people will see both, it's quality of movie that will dictate repeat viewing. I think the quality (of lack of) is what prevented SM3 making a billion world wide especially seeing as it made more than TDK overseas.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I wouldn't say that Bane is truly a weak character, but he's nowhere near the level of Ra's Al Ghul, Two-Face, and Joker. Nolan has the challenge of doing TDKR having already used up Batman's three best villains. There is a big dropoff after them, and many of the best remaining villains like Mr. Freeze and Clayface don't really fit Nolan's style. Harley Quinn is fantastic, but she's a supporting character at best. Bane is as good a choice as any I suppose, so like I said it is a challenge. Fortunately, I haven't disliked a Nolan movie yet so he may be up to the task. His weakest film was probably Insomnia, and even that was very good.

 

[Superhero 101]

Weakest character, I didn't mean physically weak.

i know i just think that even though Bane may not be as popular as Joker Penguin Two Face or Riddler he is still popular.

 

[samsnee]

Keep in mind with TDK, the trailers sold it as much a Joker movie as a Batman movie. By that, I mean it felt like Joker was going to get a lot of screen time. So far, for TDKR, it seems to focus more on Batman disappearing. Bane, and even Catwoman, hasn't really felt like much of a presence in the trailers, unlike Joker. I just don't know if selling the idea of a story about Bruce Wayne being broken and then rising again is enough to give it TDK numbers, but I guess we'll see. At first, I thought both Avengers and TDKR would do about the same total worldwide. But at the rate Avengers is going, it seems less likely.

 

[Anubis]

I'd say he's an extremely underrated character. Particularly after he dumped the Venom. Guy was basically a warped Doc Savage. A truly self made individual with his own code of honor and ethics. Not the big dumb brute who likes to break peoples backs most tv shows, video games, and movies have portrayed him.

 

[Jordanstine]

Keep in mind with TDK, the trailers sold it as much a Joker movie as a Batman movie. By that, I mean it felt like Joker was going to get a lot of screen time. So far, for TDKR, it seems to focus more on Batman disappearing. Bane, and even Catwoman, hasn't really felt like much of a presence in the trailers, unlike Joker. I just don't know if selling the idea of a story about Bruce Wayne being broken and then rising again is enough to give it TDK numbers, but I guess we'll see. At first, I thought both Avengers and TDKR would do about the same total worldwide. But at the rate Avengers is going, it seems less likely.

The thing that's so amusing about all this is that Chris Nolan's original "Batman Begins" did NOT even crack the Top 20 weekend openings in comic book movies.

Both "Fantastic Four" films, yes even "Rise of the Silver Surfer" made it ahead over BB.

So when analysis were projecting how "The Dark Knight" would be based on BB's performance, they were projecting around FF or maybe the lower end of the X-Men numbers.

But to have a franchise jump from #22 in "Batman Begins", all the way to #1 in "The Dark Knight" is something really no one foresaw.

It wasn't until Heath Ledger's death that drove the masses to see the buzz about "Ledger's last film before he died". Ledger also had the mass appeal of women from his chick flick days (something Christian Bale doesn't have) which I think to this day, TDK still holds the record for most female audience in the movie theaters for a comic book film at over 50%. Of course, TDK was also a good film that gave itself legs which drove more and more people to see it.

You also have to remember that Warner Bros re-released TDK twice. First on November 14, 2008 and then again on January 23, 2009 and ran it all the way until March. So TDK was around for almost 8.5 months straight in theaters. Both re-releases was what pushed TDK from $996 million and bumped it up to a cool $1 billion.

 

[Liam_H]

The re-release wasn't really that big of a deal, it only added about $5 million more domestic to its total. The movie was at that threshold it just needed a slight push. Its not like Titanic gaining another $200 million to reach $2 Billion.