BvS The Batsuit Thread - - - - - - - Part 30

[lujho]

There are 3 things that look like they might be grapple guns. God knows why he needs that many. The little black one looks the coolest. The more pistol-like one at least looks like that hook on the end of the grip allows him to hang from it better - the idea of swinging from ropes with a regular pistol grip doesn't really work.

 

[KillerWolf]

I think the tech cowl may go OVER the regular bat cowl. I think there's a good chance it's for use in the batwing/jet, and it just looks like it might be big enough so that he can do that without having to take his regular cowl off. Because the mouth area looks way to big to just have Affleck's bare face in it.

However, it might just be a thing that is worn on its own. I thought it might go under the armour cowl too, but I've changed my mind about that.

Yup. I said so yesterday. I am pretty sure that's what it is.

There are 3 things that look like they might be grapple guns. God knows why he needs that many. The little black one looks the coolest. The more pistol-like one at least looks like that hook on the end of the grip allows him to hang from it better - the idea of swinging from ropes with a regular pistol grip doesn't really work.

3rd huge black gun seems to be a grenade launcher, but black squarish one also appears to have hooks. Someone made a suggestion that it is for when he is in armored suit. He would weight more in that thing.

Anyway, I also like the hook underneath on the revolver-like one, it makes holding onto the gun while being pulled a bit more believable, though the very notion of gun like that having power to pull a grown man is a bit silly. Still, lets not think too much about it. t:

 

[The Shape]

The tech cowl might just be something we see in the Batcave, along with some other gadgets that might not be used in the film.

 

[lujho]

though the very notion of gun like that having power to pull a grown man is a bit silly. Still, lets not think too much about it. t:

Actually, it's not as crazy as you'd (and i originally did) think. Mythbusters did a superhero special once where they tried to replicate a gun that could shoot the line AND pull a guy up and still be handheld. It wasn't a little pistol sized thing, but they got surprizingly close. I would have thought that for such a thing to exist it would have to be backpack sized, but they got it a lot smaller than that.

That's why I much prefer the grappling gun to gliding - the GG bends reality, gliding with just a cape (even a stiffening one) smashes it.

Although even WITH a working GG, I'd tone it down a bit, because as it's shown in the games and cartoons, he can pretty much fly with it. I'd limit to using it to abseil/rappel down walls and scale up them, and swing - basically anything you could really do with a rope, but motorized (more like the single use we saw of it in Batman 89). Not having it able to zip you around anywhere at a million miles per hour.

 

[NosfeRomas]

The grappler gun is very close to Deckard's gun in Blade Runner.

I love everything i've seen so far. Everything is so amazingly gorgeous.

 

[jasontodd]

Actually, it's not as crazy as you'd (and i originally did) think. Mythbusters did a superhero special once where they tried to replicate a gun that could shoot the line AND pull a guy up and still be handheld. It wasn't a little pistol sized thing, but they got surprizingly close. I would have thought that for such a thing to exist it would have to be backpack sized, but they got it a lot smaller than that.

That's why I much prefer the grappling gun to gliding - the GG bends reality, gliding with just a cape (even a stiffening one) smashes it.

Although even WITH a working GG, I'd tone it down a bit, because as it's shown in the games and cartoons, he can pretty much fly with it. I'd limit to using it to abseil/rappel down walls and scale up them, and swing - basically anything you could really do with a rope, but motorized (more like the single use we saw of it in Batman 89). Not having it able to zip you around anywhere at a million miles per hour.

This is what I am hoping for as well. The gliding/flying around in the Nolan films always took away my suspension of disbelief. I much prefer Batman to be more practical in this aspect.

 

[KillerWolf]

The tech cowl might just be something we see in the Batcave, along with some other gadgets that might not be used in the film.

That is quite possible as well.

Actually, it's not as crazy as you'd (and i originally did) think. Mythbusters did a superhero special once where they tried to replicate a gun that could shoot the line AND pull a guy up and still be handheld. It wasn't a little pistol sized thing, but they got surprizingly close. I would have thought that for such a thing to exist it would have to be backpack sized, but they got it a lot smaller than that.

I watched that episode and I actually did have "Mythbusters" in mind when I posted that. t:

I was exclusively referring to the fact that small gun like this can't do it, but yeah the technique works. It just requires a bigger tool.

That's why I much prefer the grappling gun to gliding - the GG bends reality, gliding with just a cape (even a stiffening one) smashes it.

Although even WITH a working GG, I'd tone it down a bit, because as it's shown in the games and cartoons, he can pretty much fly with it. I'd limit to using it to abseil/rappel down walls and scale up them, and swing - basically anything you could really do with a rope, but motorized (more like the single use we saw of it in Batman 89). Not having it able to zip you around anywhere at a million miles per hour.

I get where you're coming from and I can agree to an extent, it's just that I like gliding and I think that both gliding and grapnel gun that can zip Batman around rather fast makes for a more dynamic scenes and also makes Batman more effective in fights and situations when he has to come from point A to point B in a rather short time.

Even though it is quite unrealistic when you think about it.

 

[lujho]

This is what I am hoping for as well. The gliding/flying around in the Nolan films always took away my suspension of disbelief. I much prefer Batman to be more practical in this aspect.

I wouldn't even mind a bit of MANUAL rope-use, just to show Batman's resourcefulness. Although that'd make a bit more sense in an early-days story.

 

[KillerWolf]

Yeah, and I'd really like to see a sort of "Year One" film set in the early 40s one day.

 

[regwec]

I don't mind gliding so long as it just slows and directs a fall or jump down. I don't want to see Batman swooping around like a kite.

 

[KillerWolf]

I don't mind gliding so long as it just slows and directs a fall or jump down. I don't want to see Batman swooping around like a kite.

I agree. It should be much more parachuting than flying.

I think it is a pretty much needed inclusion in movies these days, not just because it gives his cape another, rather interesting purpose, but as I already said it makes scenes more dynamic - if he needs to come down rather quickly from some high point without any other buildings around to attach his grapnel gun's hook at, gliding makes it much more dynamic than descending with the rope like a thief in a heist film.

Still, I sort of doubt that batfleck will glide/parachute, given how big he is.

 

[matt47]

I agree that he shouldn't fly but...damn how cool would it be to see him to a dive bomb to glide like in the Arkham games.

 

[Bathead]

Yeah, and I'd really like to see a sort of "Year One" film set in the early 40s one day.

This is something I've been advocating for years. Unfortunately, I really doubt it will ever happen.

 

[Jekecy]

I agree that he shouldn't fly but...damn how cool would it be to see him to a dive bomb to glide like in the Arkham games.

The Arkham games (and Nolan's films) have changed my view on gliding/flying. It's a sensible addition to his abilities. Plus it looks incredibly badass.

 

[Boy Scout]

Personally, I think the ability to glide was an excellent addition to Batman's skill set, and should continue to be a resource available to him in pretty much all incarnations of the character going forward.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

The Arkham games (and Nolan's films) have changed my view on gliding/flying. It's a sensible addition to his abilities. Plus it looks incredibly badass.

Agreed and that's one thing that Batman Begins nailed visually.

 

[rockandrollsoul]

Personally, I think the ability to glide was an excellent addition to Batman's skill set, and should continue to be a resource available to him in pretty much all incarnations of the character going forward.

Yeah, to me it's almost like taking away his ability to turn his head in the sense that once you've seen him do it, taking it away feels like a backwards step.

 

[KillerWolf]

This is something I've been advocating for years. Unfortunately, I really doubt it will ever happen.

Yeah, chances are rather slim that it will ever happen.

Still, I do hold hope that someday in the future they'll try to take a period piece approach with Batman.

 

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[KillerWolf]

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Hey, this is great! Never saw this before. t:

 

[JOE]

I wish the robo batsuit had the bat logo... I understand they're staying faithful to the comics, I just think it would add to the suit. Still awesome though! Can't wait to see Supes beat him up!

 

[antoineflemming]

The suit looks great when it's on the model but looks like a bloated mess in all the promo shots.

I know the model there isn't built to reflect the built of the suit in the film but I think the film version would be better with these proportions.

I've seen tons of comments about the "fatman" look that's been showcased on the EW shots.

I'm pretty sure that's just a statue and not the actual costume, just like the wonder woman and superman ones are statues. So, it's not a suit on a model. The whole thing is a model, and is based, build-wise, on the concept art. Thing is, Affleck would be too big for a costume built that way. The big issue is that it's a bit puffy, and it seems like it's made that way to look more like TDKR. Notice how the stunt double in SS is more average build and how the suit looks there. My only problem with Batfleck in the suit is that the cowl looks weird when he's in the suit. I think it's mainly the big cheeks that look off to me.

 

[Lencho01]

Since the mech suit looks all worned out, wonder what he's used it for.

 

[Sam Kaczka]

That is quite possible as well.



I watched that episode and I actually did have "Mythbusters" in mind when I posted that. t:

I was exclusively referring to the fact that small gun like this can't do it, but yeah the technique works. It just requires a bigger tool.



I get where you're coming from and I can agree to an extent, it's just that I like gliding and I think that both gliding and grapnel gun that can zip Batman around rather fast makes for a more dynamic scenes and also makes Batman more effective in fights and situations when he has to come from point A to point B in a rather short time.

Even though it is quite unrealistic when you think about it.

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If only the serials had been that good.

 

[StraightSix]

I hope the mech suit doesn't become a main staple suit in justice league movies when they go up against a big threat like darksied or doomsday to justify why batman can fight alongside the rest of the team.

I don't know if that "realism" aspect is going to justify them doing so. People would think that batman just copying iron man or something along those lines