The Relationship Thread: Because Superhero Forums are Full of Sexperts! - - - - - - - - Part 27

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I just realized that I've been chatting with a woman online for over a month but we have never once actually flirted with each other. We chat pretty much every day and have gone to a movie and had dinner but have never once said anything romantic or sexual to each other. No wonder that she feels more like a buddy than a girlfriend.
 
Okay, we're totally talking about where our "potential relationship" will go…again, we know each other…it feels right but WTF! How do I continue on?
 
It is on like donkey kong for Saturday, BAM! BAM! BAM! She might be wearing a dress, she doesn't know, yet. Yeah, it's kinda a blind date, so...she told me she will let me know the day of, what she is wearing. That or when a random woman joins me for lunch, I know it's her. :o sexy mystery.


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I'm happy for you ETM…
 
Okay, we're totally talking about where our "potential relationship" will go…again, we know each other…it feels right but WTF! How do I continue on?
Um, keep seeing each other, and try to initiate some physical intimacy?

I mean, if you're shy and thinks he may be a more traditional guy (you are dating a dude, right? Losing track..), then you can let him initiate intimacy. But if you think it's taking too long (like a few dates without anything), might as well try initiating some yourself.
 
you are dating a dude

I think you're the first person to remember my previous posts…lol…maybe?

We're trying to figure stuff out……it's an interesting experience…
 
I think you're the first person to remember my previous posts…lol…maybe?

We're trying to figure stuff out……it's an interesting experience…
It doesn't have to be that complicated. Like my husband said when we were first dating, "I like spending time with you, and I'll continue to spend time with you." And 5 years later, we're all married and s***. :oldrazz:

There's no one right way to be in a relationship. So you just gotta feel how things are with him.
 
…I don't know, I feel like we're kinda in the…part of the fun is getting there…
 
ETM is ahead of me in the dating world.

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If it makes you feel better, I got coached (one on one meeting) today at work and I just no longer care anymore, so me being fired or quitting is probably sadly happening before my b-day in Sept at this rate.



But yes, I am ahead of you. :o oh, the rubbing it in...
 
Usually when I get the 'where are we going' talk, it's because the girlfriend is looking for some kind of reassurance.

And usually I give the wrong answer lol.
 
Usually when I get the 'where are we going' talk, it's because the girlfriend is looking for some kind of reassurance.

And usually I give the wrong answer lol.
Well, if someone is looking for reassurance about "where are we going" when you're already in a relationship, the only right answer is marriage. :oldrazz:

The only serious future-related relationship talk I've had with the husband is the one he initiated at the very beginning, when he told me what his intentions were. That he wanted a relationship with me in the future.

Not even the marriage talk was actually that serious, in that "sit down and let's get uber-serious." We'd been together for like, 4 years at that point and it just felt right for both of us at the time.
 
Well, if someone is looking for reassurance about "where are we going" when you're already in a relationship, the only right answer is marriage. :oldrazz:

I don't think I'm commitment-phobic, but yikes.

The only serious future-related relationship talk I've had with the husband is the one he initiated at the very beginning, when he told me what his intentions were. That he wanted a relationship with me in the future.

Not even the marriage talk was actually that serious, in that "sit down and let's get uber-serious." We'd been together for like, 4 years at that point and it just felt right for both of us at the time.

You do realize you're one of the world's most level-headed females :woot:. And your hubby seems like the sensible and straight-talking sort.

My experience is that often one party is either the more insecure or indifferent. I'm often the latter.
 
I don't think I'm commitment-phobic, but yikes.
Well, if someone is asking you that, you have to consider WHY they're asking you.

If they were satisfied with the status quo, they wouldn't be asking you that question. :oldrazz: And so they are basically looking to see if you're willing to go the next step with them.

And if the answer is no, then they might as well move on because they're looking for the "ultimate step" of marriage. I mean, especially if you're already living together. Marriage and/or kids are the only steps beyond cohabitation.

You do realize you're one of the world's most level-headed females :woot:. And your hubby seems like the sensible and straight-talking sort.

My experience is that often one party is either the more insecure or indifferent. I'm often the latter.
I credit my husband too. I wouldn't be as level-headed if he wasn't as level-headed as he is. He has a good perspective on what's important. And he's honest with me too, which is why I trust him when he doesn't say anything positive or negative. I trust that if he did have an issue, he'd tell me. Instead of worrying about the radio silence.

I mean, indifferent is fine as long as you aren't thinking, "NO!" and lying about how you feel. If marriage or kids aren't for you, you shouldn't be forced into it.

Neither of us is dead-set on anything. We always take things as they come. We weren't dead-set on getting engaged, but when the idea came up, we were like, "Yeah, that sounds nice."
 
Well, if someone is asking you that, you have to consider WHY they're asking you.

If they were satisfied with the status quo, they wouldn't be asking you that question. :oldrazz: And so they are basically looking to see if you're willing to go the next step with them.

And if the answer is no, then they might as well move on because they're looking for the "ultimate step" of marriage. I mean, especially if you're already living together. Marriage and/or kids are the only steps beyond cohabitation.

They weren't, yeah. I have trouble prioritizing time for them. It's something I have to seriously look at if I wish to settle down. But none of my relationships have come close to marriage; haven't even cohabited. I personally believe a couple should live together for some time before deciding to take the plunge.

I credit my husband too. I wouldn't be as level-headed if he wasn't as level-headed as he is. He has a good perspective on what's important. And he's honest with me too, which is why I trust him when he doesn't say anything positive or negative. I trust that if he did have an issue, he'd tell me. Instead of worrying about the radio silence.

I mean, indifferent is fine as long as you aren't thinking, "NO!" and lying about how you feel. If marriage or kids aren't for you, you shouldn't be forced into it.

Neither of us is dead-set on anything. We always take things as they come. We weren't dead-set on getting engaged, but when the idea came up, we were like, "Yeah, that sounds nice."

Yeah, the power of reciprocity is so important -- I mean, this is what we all are looking for in our relationships. A good partner makes you a better partner, and a better person in return.
 
They weren't, yeah. I have trouble prioritizing time for them. It's something I have to seriously look at if I wish to settle down. But none of my relationships have come close to marriage; haven't even cohabited. I personally believe a couple should live together for some time before deciding to take the plunge.
What are you doing with your time that you have to purposely set aside time to see them?

It's one thing if you work a lot, but it's another to have loads of free time but prefer not to spend any of it with your SO. That means there's something incompatible there. If you want to settle down, this other person has to fit seamlessly into your life somehow.

When we first started dating, we were both working full-time and doing something else at night (he was working on an app, I was taking classes), but we'd travel on the weekends to see each other and eventually started staying over. It doesn't have to be super-formal once you get to know them. But if you make dates a rarity, it'll put more pressure on you to make each date extra-special, when a close relationship just isn't like that day-to-day.

A relationship can't be built on fancy restaurant dates twice a month. That's not what a relationship is. I don't like the idea of fancy restaurant dates anymore. :funny: It feels so fake to me.

I mean, I don't agree with spending ALL of your time together, but you should ya know, want to see each other every once in a while. My husband and I have vastly different hobbies, but we'll still do lunch or dinner together even if we're doing separate things the rest of the day. Living together makes that a lot easier to just do on the fly, instead of having to plan a formal date. :oldrazz:


I read the rate of divorce is higher for couples who lived together before marriage, but that's likely due to differing expectations of what marriage should be. For traditional folks who don't live together before marriage, moving in together is a big part of marriage. So when you no longer have that milestone, what marriage means becomes drastically different. And you'll have to talk about that.
 
Random question:

What do you think the line is between a girl 'crying rape' (as in lying or over exaggeration for the sake of attention or to get back at a guy) and genuinely speaking up about an experiance a girl felt was rape/sexual assault, that some people (i.e. men) don't believe classifies.

Had a really intense debate with a friend about it last night that got kind of out of hand, and was just wondering what you guys thought.
 
I agree with the statement that women don't really have to seek out dates or relationships as most of the time it comes to them. Girls very rarely ask a guy out, it ALWAYS falls to the guy to pursue and ask a girl out. So for introverted guys ( like myself) who already kind of have a fear of rejection dating can be tough.
 
What are you doing with your time that you have to purposely set aside time to see them?

It's one thing if you work a lot, but it's another to have loads of free time but prefer not to spend any of it with your SO. That means there's something incompatible there. If you want to settle down, this other person has to fit seamlessly into your life somehow.

When we first started dating, we were both working full-time and doing something else at night (he was working on an app, I was taking classes), but we'd travel on the weekends to see each other and eventually started staying over. It doesn't have to be super-formal once you get to know them. But if you make dates a rarity, it'll put more pressure on you to make each date extra-special, when a close relationship just isn't like that day-to-day.

Weekdays are mostly occupied by work (corporate job, emails, meetings, firefighting -- then there's the actual work) and hanging out with bros in the evenings. Weekends are club sports and bros, and some work. Problem is that I have several groups of bros (school friends from primary school to uni, army pals, work friends), plus the fact that I'm an introvert -- I'm quite dead on my feet at the end of a day.

Maybe I haven't met the right person or I need to scale something back or there's more growing up to do. Probably all three.

A relationship can't be built on fancy restaurant dates twice a month. That's not what a relationship is. I don't like the idea of fancy restaurant dates anymore. :funny: It feels so fake to me.

Agree. Fancy restaurant dates should be reserved for special dates, anniversaries and the such.

I read the rate of divorce is higher for couples who lived together before marriage, but that's likely due to differing expectations of what marriage should be. For traditional folks who don't live together before marriage, moving in together is a big part of marriage. So when you no longer have that milestone, what marriage means becomes drastically different. And you'll have to talk about that.

Yeah, the Chinese here are still fairly conservative so cohabiting before marriage is a huge thing. Some notes taken here.

(And guess I'll be taking notes till the day I'm in a relationship where this situation comes into the picture.)
 
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Random question:

What do you think the line is between a girl 'crying rape' (as in lying or over exaggeration for the sake of attention or to get back at a guy) and genuinely speaking up about an experiance a girl felt was rape/sexual assault, that some people (i.e. men) don't believe classifies.

Had a really intense debate with a friend about it last night that got kind of out of hand, and was just wondering what you guys thought.
This is the extremely gray area for me. If all we're going on is how the girl felt and there's no physical proof of a struggle or intoxication, it would be pretty much impossible to prosecute.

I mean, her experience shouldn't be discounted, but I can easily see how someone could see a situation as non-consent (ie "rape") and the other person sees it differently. Miscommunication is likely how most of these things happen nowadays, not "violent fight" rapes or purposely "drugged into a coma" rapes. And I do think a lot of the debates occur because "rape" is thought of as such a horrible thing, and most guys don't want to believe they are rapists when they perhaps talk a girl a little too forcefully into sex. Many girls feel coerced into doing things they perhaps don't want to do, and that's not necessarily one side's fault.

This is exactly the reason why consent should be open and honest, and why people need to communicate with each other about what they want and what they're okay with. And why we need to teach each other to have the self-confidence to say no when it's not what you want, instead of being pressured into it.

Unfortunately, I don't think any of these gray-area rapes can or should be punished for. It's not one side's fault if there was miscommunication. The only thing to do is to learn from it, move on, and hopefully teach others not to do the same.

Weekdays are mostly occupied by work (corporate job, emails, meetings, firefighting -- then there's the actual work) and hanging out with bros in the evenings. Weekends are club sports and bros, and some work. Problem is that I have several groups of bros (school friends from primary school to uni, army pals, work friends), plus the fact that I'm an introvert -- I'm quite dead on my feet at the end of a day.

Maybe I haven't met the right person or I need to scale something back or there's more growing up to do. Probably all three.
I'm an introvert and I only see friends like, once or twice a week. Some friends I don't see for months at a time. There's Facebook and Gchat, and everyone knows I'm someone who doesn't judge them for anything. They know I'm someone they can trust, so they still consider me a friend even if I don't put in a lot of facetime.

You can say no to friends if you don't feel up to seeing them. Part of being an introvert is being okay with saying no if you are just too worn out for it. People seem to naturally sense my introversion, since I don't get a lot of invites for outings, really. Even when they just meet me and they don't know that I'm fairly discerning about outings.

You cannot keep up the same exact schedule with your friends when you're in a relationship, and ESPECIALLY when there's kids in the picture. It's not like you have to force yourself to keep adding stuff to your life without taking anything out, because you can't. You grow, your life changes, things just shift. It's not like you're abandoning your bros, and if your bros think that, that's a sign of insecurity going on there.

But as a fellow Chinese, I understand the compulsion to do it all and not quit anything. :oldrazz:
 
This is the extremely gray area for me. If all we're going on is how the girl felt and there's no physical proof of a struggle or intoxication, it would be pretty much impossible to prosecute.

I mean, her experience shouldn't be discounted, but I can easily see how someone could see a situation as non-consent (ie "rape") and the other person sees it differently. Miscommunication is likely how most of these things happen nowadays, not "violent fight" rapes or purposely "drugged into a coma" rapes. And I do think a lot of the debates occur because "rape" is thought of as such a horrible thing, and most guys don't want to believe they are rapists when they perhaps talk a girl a little too forcefully into sex. Many girls feel coerced into doing things they perhaps don't want to do, and that's not necessarily one side's fault.

This is exactly the reason why consent should be open and honest, and why people need to communicate with each other about what they want and what they're okay with. And why we need to teach each other to have the self-confidence to say no when it's not what you want, instead of being pressured into it.

Unfortunately, I don't think any of these gray-area rapes can or should be punished for. It's not one side's fault if there was miscommunication. The only thing to do is to learn from it, move on, and hopefully teach others not to do the same.
I'm sure there are some people who think that waking up in the middle of the night or stumbling home intoxicated and rolling your wife over while she's still sleeping as rape.
 
I'm sure there are some people who think that waking up in the middle of the night or stumbling home intoxicated and rolling your wife over while she's still sleeping as rape.

Well yeah, if she's UNCONSCIOUS obviously that's rape. I thought hopeful was referring to actual gray areas here. :oldrazz:
 
I don't know if she'd be unconscious during the whole thing but I know some women who wouldn't necessarily care as long as it was their SO.
 
Thinking of getting back on fb. Its been deleted since my breakup
 
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