The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Scene Gwen Stacey Died - Part 2

[Airnick]

It's pretty much a certainty at this point that she dies and since we know that Pete successfully catches her with a web line and she's still alive, how else do you think she'll die if she doesn't fall based solely on what we know?

I can't fault you for wanting her to die from whiplash, but at this point it doesn't make sense based on what we currently know about the circumstances under which her death occurs for you to keep holding out for that to happen.

Maybe she will fall again? Idk I still think there's a good possibility the she will die from the whiplash. But like I said I'm fine if she falls to her death.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

could you give me a time code of the shot of him shooting the web line down so i can avoid the rest of the video still? be much appreciated.

The middle of 2:23. You should be good.

 

[The Guard]

I almost think they're baiting us a little bit. I think maybe they know we know she eventually dies, and they're playing that up a bit to create questions as to what happens.

She might well die in the third film after she's saved her countless times in the first two movies.

 

[DigificWriter]

Maybe she will fall again? Idk I still think there's a good possibility the she will die from the whiplash. But like I said I'm fine if she falls to her death.

By the time Pete catches her with that web line, she's fallen twice within the course of a single sequence; it would be pushing the limits of redundancy if she were to fall again, especially since the third fall would have to happen shortly after the second.

 

[Super Jim]

I think it's funny how the debate now (for the most part) isn't whether she will die, as it was when I first created this thread so long ago, but on whether it will be the neck snap or the fall.

Some things to think about...

First, this pic:

Happens right before Spider jumps down onto a different cog than the one Gwen is shown on and casts his web. We then see Gwen holding the web while hanging and looking up (her neck is most definitely NOT snapped).

What we suspect is that this pic:

Happens before the one of her falling and Spidey webbing.

And since we've pretty much proven that this cog that Gwen is on is different than the one that Peter is on when he webs, it means that something happens to cause Gwen to fall off of the cog she is on and Peter webs her from a different cog.

But now Peter would be a little preocupied trying to haul Gwen up, and Gobbie would take advantage of this.

So I've surmised that Gobbie attacks Peter (while he's holding the web) and they topple down to the same cog that Gwen was previously on, which is shown here:

The petina on this cog matches identically to the one Gwen was on. And the web either gets dropped or cut by Goblin (he's holding some sort of hilt looking thing in his left hand).

Either way, it makes sense for Spider to fight off Gobbie, to then rush to look over the side of the cog to find that Gwen is gone. That would mean that she fell to her death.

It's hard to believe that Peter drops the web (or it gets cut) and he then has time to fight off Goblin and then re-web Gwen, snapping her neck.

The only drawback that I see to this is that Peter holding the lifeless body of Gwen would be very powerful and if she fell from too high, that would be a bit messy. They wouldn't do that, I would hope.

I guess if she fell from a height that would kill her, but keep her body intact, that might work, but that seems a strech from what we've seen so far. Maybe that new pic of Gwen falling horizontally supports this.

I think many are still hoping for the neck thing, but I'm leaning towards the suspense of her falling (Peter losing hold of the web).

Oh, and above some were talking about Peter's costume being damaged in Times Square but not being damaged at the clock tower. Haven't we already prooved that Electro will end up at Ravencroft after Times Square, where he will get "amped up", which would give Peter some time to fix his costume (or put his spare one on) before the final battle?

 

[sl500jazz]

Unless some of the footage that we've seen was specifically retouched for the trailer, it does look like...

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she falls again and Peter jumps after her before she hits the ground.

 

[Airnick]

Unless some of the footage that we've seen was specifically retouched for the trailer, it does look like...

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she falls again and Peter jumps after her before she hits the ground.

Your right. I'm telling you guys, I'm positive she'll die from the whiplash.

 

[ever tim]

^ How are you drawing that conclusion? There's nothing in those respective images to suggest that.

...Again, look at the way she's falling. She's basically upright in the first shot. She's falling with her legs being raised the furthest in the second shot.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Also, there's the really quick shot of Spider-Man leaping down towards the bottom of the clock tower with the webline right beside him. Anyone catch that?

 

[Super Jim]

That last shot is interesting. Sure looks like the same cog.

So, is he heading down (diving) to try to save Gwen in this shot?

This must be how he gets down to find Gwen's lifeless body. But that still begs the question what happens to the cog between Spider and Gobbie fighting on it and this pic of Spider diving with the Gwen apparantly falling.

 

[Super Jim]

...Again, look at the way she's falling. She's basically upright in the first shot. She's falling with her legs being raised the furthest in the second shot.

I've already explained that the first shot of falling (while she is looking up) happens at a totally different point than the shot of her falling horizontally.

In the first shot this is right before Pwter catches her with his web. We then see her hanging from the web, holding it, while looking up.

Then we believe Gobbie attacks and Peter loses the web. He'll fight off Gobbie and then go after Gwen to find her dead.

Now above Nicko you're saying that shot of Peter diving you can see the web line hanging? Where is it. Can't find it.

Thanx.

 

[Airnick]

Also, there's the really quick shot of Spider-Man leaping down towards the bottom of the clock tower with the webline right beside him. Anyone catch that?

Yep, I caught that too.

 

[Airnick]

@SuperJim: it's at the 2:34 second mark.

 

[ever tim]

Here's how I think it's going down:

I know some people think it's too long or whatever, but this could literally happen in a few seconds. It'd end with Spidey shooting out a webline that catches her leg. Perhaps he lets her down and thinks he's saved her, so he goes on to deal with the Goblin.

 

[Airnick]

Here's how I think it's going down:

I know some people think it's too long or whatever, but this could literally happen in a few seconds. It'd end with Spidey shooting out a webline that catches her leg. Perhaps he lets her down and thinks he's saved her, so he goes on to deal with the Goblin.

I could see it going down like that too.

 

[sl500jazz]

Idk, if he's gonna web her leg from that position. It looks like he's diving toward her to grab her and intercept her fall like Bryce in SM3.

 

[MrSpyder]

Man the suspense is killing. Can't wait to finally see what happens here

 

[Spideyfan117]

Based on everything we know at this point, I'm convinced that Pete dispatches Goblin Harry and goes looking for Gwen, finding her lifeless body after she fell to her death while he was fighting and after he'd shot her a web line. It's the only conclusion that makes sense based on what we know.

This is what I think too. It would make sense anyways. But do you think that, assuming this scenario is the most approximate to how it will play out, is making Gwen's death an issue of collateral damage? I'm trying to figure out why Harry would want to kill Gwen. Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he's using her as bait or leverage (an insane option to consider, but insanity is one effect of the goblin serum). It would make sense if Harry has Spider-man pinned down (like in the first official still of GG) and Gwen falls. Spider-man would be too late to save her. I'm just tossing out ideas here. Not entirely sure how it's going to play out.

 

[Super Jim]

One of the problems with all of this being written above is that we have not seen anything to point to the possibility of Gwen being webbed twice.

If anything, the concept of her being webbed, falling and then being webbed againg (so her nect will snap) would be a bit redundant and unlikely.

What people really need to remember is that we know for a fact the first time Gwen falls (vertically) she is caught by Peter. Her neck IS NOT snapped as she is looking up at him.

Yes, there is now another shot of her falling, and this time horizontally with her feet slightly elevated. This is likely the moment before her impacting the ground and dying. If we saw her falling head first (feet up) then that might support her getting weebed again from the feet and her neck snapping, but there is nothing like that.

 

[ever tim]

>"we have not seen anything to point to the possibility of Gwen being webbed twice"

>people have posted pictures and theories about how it's possible she gets webbed twice

u wut m8

There's just as much going for the possibility that she gets webbed twice as much as there is for the possibility she doesn't. You say that the picture of her falling with her feet elevated is possibly from just before she dies, so who's to say she doesn't get webbed again then, which results in her death? In the shot of Spidey diving, he's way past the cog he lands on when he webs Gwen for the first time. Assuming even those shots are related, considering how much footage is being placed out of order to confuse people.

EDIT: Also, I don't think we're going to see Gwen falling to her death like that. Like, hitting the floor. You lose the moment if it cuts away and it's too much if you see it. (In terms of this way of her dying)

 

[webhead9707]

Idk, if he's gonna web her leg from that position. It looks like he's diving toward her to grab her and intercept her fall like Bryce in SM3.

I thought so too.

One of the problems with all of this being written above is that we have not seen anything to point to the possibility of Gwen being webbed twice.

If anything, the concept of her being webbed, falling and then being webbed againg (so her nect will snap) would be a bit redundant and unlikely.

What people really need to remember is that we know for a fact the first time Gwen falls (vertically) she is caught by Peter. Her neck IS NOT snapped as she is looking up at him.

Yes, there is now another shot of her falling, and this time horizontally with her feet slightly elevated. This is likely the moment before her impacting the ground and dying. If we saw her falling head first (feet up) then that might support her getting weebed again from the feet and her neck snapping, but there is nothing like that.

It's also possible that she hit or grazed something on the way down and that's why she's falling at a different angle.

 

[WarriorDreamer]

I think people should stop overanalyzing exactly what happens and when. Clearly they've shown a lot of a very dramatic moment and probably shouldn't show anymore. I think the rest should be left to wait and see in the movie.

 

[Airnick]

I'm about 90% sure she won't fall to her death.

 

[DigificWriter]

I'm about 90% sure she won't fall to her death.

You keep saying this, but without explaining why and how you're rationalizing that opinion in the face of the things we know.

 

[sl500jazz]

In light of the recent footage,

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I don't think she's gonna die by hitting the ground. We see Spidey diving after her as she's falling. I think he will successfully prevent her from hitting the ground, but If she does end up getting killed, I think it'll happen while Spidey is trying to intercept her fall.

I think people should stop overanalyzing exactly what happens and when. Clearly they've shown a lot of a very dramatic moment and probably shouldn't show anymore. I think the rest should be left to wait and see in the movie.

I just can't help it. It's so darn tempting! Lol.