TMOS Reviews Thread - Non Spoiler Review and Discussion - Part 5

[Poeman]

NOTHING is Jonah Hex bad. GL had it's moments. Especially in the directors cut.

This movie does have great moments, as few and far between. I did break down and cry during a pinnacle moment with Clark and Jonathan Kent.

But the slow build takes a hard right angle into actionville and never recovers. Once the action takes the wheel - it looks at emotional connectivity in the rear view.

- Jow

No offense, GL had no moments (didnt see DR). It was putrid, like Elektra bad but not Catwoman bad. I'll be real when it comes to films...So far as a fan of films, this Superman movie appeals to me alot and the general public will eat it up alive. Kids will love seeing Henry Cavill as Superman.

No one cares about Ryan Reynolds, I'm being serious...There are no great moments in that film. The CGI looked off compared to the visuals shown in MOS previews so far.

Anyways, there should be more of a Batman Begins type film with Flash...And it should be played by Ryan Gosling!

Now back to topic

 

[Super Kal]

Yeah you might dig the movie then. Idk - the structure was very Nolan-ish without him filling in the blanks. Goyer basically took a Nolan Beat Sheet (aka a treatment) and then padded it like a mad-lib.

- Jow

what can i say? I'm a guy of simple tastes...

 

[Ozymandias]

NOTHING is Jonah Hex bad. GL had it's moments. Especially in the directors cut.

This movie does have great moments, as few and far between. I did break down and cry during a pinnacle moment with Clark and Jonathan Kent.

But the slow build takes a hard right angle into actionville and never recovers. Once the action takes the wheel - it looks at emotional connectivity in the rear view.

- Jow

I felt very emotionally connected throughout the final action sequences. Especially taking into account Zod's background, his purpose for being born, and the tragedy of him trying to save his own people. I by no means approved of his methods and he had to be stopped, but it helped make the climax more than just a pointless brawl.

By that point, Clark is finally embracing the heroic qualities both of his fathers believed him to have. He's learning to trust humankind and in turn they're beginning to trust him.

 

[Ultimatehero]

At we have something to cheer about. Then again critics thought DKR was good.

I'd LOVE for it to reach TDKR level. And I think to me it's going to surpass it because of the angle their going after. That "slow hard burn" to me is what I'm looking forward to the most followed second only by the action. That "slow hard burn" being looking at who Superman is, his search for identity, and how his parents play a role in that. So the essence that THAT is what this movie basically is plus action? Seriously hyped. Because to me that is Superman. Lois is important, but the Daily Planet is just the supporting cast.

I just can not fathom how anyone could complain about the film being about Superman's search for identity throughout the whole thing basically as a bad thing - and that the action follows soon after means that about one hour and thirty minutes is spent dealing with that subject matter. That in my book is phenomenal.

To me: TDKR, BB, TDK

TDKR got the superhero and it got what Batman was really about.

BB got the superhero and it got what Batman was all about.

TDK felt too much like it was trying to separate itself from Batman and didn't really dive into who Bruce Wayne or Batman is as much as BB and TDKR did. I get why it's praised - going out of being a superhero film, but to me it just went too far out of it.

 

[Princess Denise]

Another positive review.

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories...cked-battle-between-earth-and-krypton-691472/

 

[FourteenthAngel]

No offense, GL had no moments. It was pure trash, like Elektra bad but not Catwoman bad. I'll be real when it comes to films...So far as a fan of films, this Superman movie appeals to me alot and the general public will eat it up alive. Kids will love seeing Henry Cavill as Superman.

No one cares about Ryan Reynolds, I'm being serious...There are no great moments in that film. The CGI looked off compared to the visuals shown in MOS previews so far.

Anyways, there should be more of a Batman Begins type film with Flash...And it should be played by Ryan Gosling!

Now back to topic

^This user speaks the truth.

 

[Tra-El]

At we have something to cheer about

Throw this site a bone. I've been checking in social media and the positives rank high, but here it's gloomy and downright depressing once the reviews started coming in. I think this place is just starved to see some positivity be said haha.

 

[flickchick85]

Classical scores are very important to some people and I'm one of them. They help tell as much a story as the cinematography. It can save a film, and hinder it.

Agreed.

I don't felt it did either here as it may as well have been nonexistent.

Well at least I'll be prepared for disappointment on that front. Listening to the score non-stop for the last 2 days really made me excited to hear it in those IMAX speakers, so expectations for the score were sky high.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Poni, were you as disappointed in Zod as I was? The buzz from the past couple months gave off the impression that Shannon was going to give us one of the best cbm villain roles since the Joker. But I was really underwhelmed and thought his performance was over-the-top. Faora made a much better villain IMO, she was great.

I'm a huge, longtime fan of Shannon. The Iceman is IMO one of the year's best films and he best performance to date. I was more excited to see him play Zod than any other aspect of this film. Hell, when I met him last month I even took a pic kneeling in front of him. All that aside, he had little to work with. He did fine with what he had, but he didn't have much. What's her name playing Faora was the second best performance in the film to me. She was really good.

 

[sf2]

Its one thing when the critics puts this film down. Its another when the fans do.

I am dissapointed in the returns.

poor fellow. now go n rate it in the other thread. or u wanna view it a 2nd time to know your exact feeling about the movie?

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

The more I see the more this is looking like another Iron Man 3...so many people divided. I actually loved Iron Man 3 and like I said Snyder's best films only reached in the 60 percentile on Rotten Tomatoes so I am not too worried. It really is strange to see a lot of the most anticipated films of this year getting such harsh reviews.

 

[Anjow1060]

*** ATTENTION WORRIED MAN OF STEEL FAN ***

**** READ THIS NOW ****

You, yea you. The one who thinks Man Of Steel isn't gonna be as good as he thought it was because a bunch of critics online gave it a bad score. Trust me, this movie is going to be everything you thought it was going to be.

Did ANYONE even consider the possibility that a lot of these critics didn't like the film cause the themes went over their head? That there weren't enough things happening while the character was going through a great spiritual exploration? That the exploration was so deep and so central to the character that it took precedence over everything else? That the loneliness and sadness that Clark felt was portrayed so real to life that it depressed them and took the joy from their mood? That the characterization felt rushed because the symbolism whizzed over their head? And yet imagery so beautiful, so elegant, so powerful, and yet so real that they were completely mesmerized by it and couldn't even bring themselves to criticize it?

I don't know about you, but the fact that a film can draw that reaction out of someone says to me that this film is going to be ART. I'm glad Zach Snyder didn't make a movie that tried to please everyone. This isn't a dumb popcorn flick. This is a real film with a real story that's going to evoke some real feelings. You're right Mr. Critic, this isn't the movie you were expecting. Maybe you weren't ready for it. Maybe you should go watch Iron Man 3. It's easier to follow.

You are all going to love this movie to death and you will be thanking Zach Snyder and the whole team taking the Superman mythos to such heights that not everyone in the audience had the eyes for it.

*sigh*

I sounded just like you not 10 hours ago.

- Jow

 

[Anjow1060]

Poni, were you as disappointed in Zod as I was? The buzz from the past couple months gave off the impression that Shannon was going to give us one of the best cbm villain roles since the Joker. But I was really underwhelmed and thought his performance was over-the-top. Faora made a much better villain IMO, she was great.

I was very disappointed. He was more of a tragic hero than a villain. There was no evil to him. Just misled goals.

That to me didn't make him all that enjoyable. He's a bad guy, but not a bad guy. Which made it all the more "meh" when they fought.

- Jow

 

[FourteenthAngel]

Throw this site a bone. I've been checking in social media and the positives rank high, but here it's gloomy and downright depressing once the reviews started coming in. I think this place is just starved to see some positivity be said haha.

I am not trying to be negative. It is just that so much is riding on this film that is kind of needs to do good or at least decent. The movie needs as many good things about as it can get.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I'm a huge, longtime fan of Shannon. The Iceman is IMO one of the year's best films and he best performance to date. I was more excited to see him play Zod than any other aspect of this film. Hell, when I met him last month I even took a pic kneeling in front of him. All that aside, he had little to work with. He did fine with what he had, but he didn't have much. What's her name playing Faora was the second best performance in the film to me. She was really good.

Antje Traue

 

[KingKane88]

I'll be seeing it tomorrow night at 7pm ct along with 6 of my friends and my daughter, I'll be posting reactions from all of them, al9ng with mine. On Sunday I'm going again with 8 family members, I already bought the tickets. Will get there reactions aswell.

I'm just praying that the hand held camera does not keep bouncing and shaking! The camera bouncing was so bad in the "Texas Chain Saw Massacre" I literally walked away from the movie, just hoping MOS ain't as distracting.

 

[FourteenthAngel]

*sigh*

I sounded just like you not 10 hours ago.

- Jow

Do you have legitimate complaints or was it that it wasn't the Superman you yourself wanted it to be?

 

[Poni_Boy]

I was very disappointed. He was more of a tragic hero than a villain. There was no evil to him. Just misled goals.

That to me didn't make him all that enjoyable. He's a bad guy, but not a bad guy. Which made it all the more "meh" when they fought.

- Jow

Pretty much. And he made decisions that didn't make sense given the confines the film makers set for the character.

 

[Anjow1060]

No offense, GL had no moments (didnt see DR). It was putrid, like Elektra bad but not Catwoman bad. I'll be real when it comes to films...So far as a fan of films, this Superman movie appeals to me alot and the general public will eat it up alive. Kids will love seeing Henry Cavill as Superman.

No one cares about Ryan Reynolds, I'm being serious...There are no great moments in that film. The CGI looked off compared to the visuals shown in MOS previews so far.

Anyways, there should be more of a Batman Begins type film with Flash...And it should be played by Ryan Gosling!

Now back to topic

Oh... you haven't seen this movie yet, have you? Oh you have so much disappointment awaiting you.

GL had some great moments - stuff with his father, training with Sinestro, when he was shielded by the ring against parallax and recites the oath. So epic.

That's not to say the rest of the movie doesn't have cringeworthy or boring scenes - it does. And they overshadow it - but that does not take away from the moments themselves.

- Jow

 

[ThreadPool]

Another positive review.

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories...cked-battle-between-earth-and-krypton-691472/

This guy gives it an A+, saying that it's actually good that Zack directed this movie .
http://www.sircritic.com/2013/06/review-man-of-steel.html

La la la! We're not listening. Only negative reviews exist.
Thanks!

 

[Poni_Boy]

Antje Traue

That one. She was the best villain in the film IMO. Really hope this leads to bigger and better roles for her.

 

[BatLobster]

I was very disappointed. He was more of a tragic hero than a villain. There was no evil to him. Just misled goals.

That to me didn't make him all that enjoyable. He's a bad guy, but not a bad guy. Which made it all the more "meh" when they fought.

- Jow

Couldn't you say the same about Ra's al Ghul in Begins though? He's not Joker-level evil, in actuality he believes attacking Gotham is for the betterment of society. Like Bruce he's trying to save the world, just going about it in a rather twisted way.

I have no bias here, just wondering. Haven't seen MoS yet and I have literally no idea where to place my expectations at the moment.

 

[Anjow1060]

Do you have legitimate complaints or was it that it wasn't the Superman you yourself wanted it to be?

I do but I can't go into them seeing as this is the non-spoiler thread. Kinda hinders me from defending them if I spoil things - also the execution of a lot of this is the problem. Not the story itself.

- Jow

 

[Ultimatehero]

That to me didn't make him all that enjoyable. He's a bad guy, but not a bad guy. Which made it all the more "meh" when they fought.

Sounds like it's just what Zach Snyder said in interviews then. A complicated complex villain one could understand. A gray villain > a pure bad villain always in my book at least. I was kind of afraid that they'd make him a pure bad villain with where they were heading because it has so much potential to be more than that so that he's a bad guy but not a bad bad guy means it's what I want.

 

[FourteenthAngel]

Oh... you haven't seen this movie yet, have you? Oh you have so much disappointment awaiting you.

GL had some great moments - stuff with his father, training with Sinestro, when he was shielded by the ring against parallax and recites the oath. So epic.

That's not to say the rest of the movie doesn't have cringeworthy or boring scenes - it does. And they overshadow it - but that does not take away from the moments themselves.

- Jow

I fail to see how the film could be as bad as you claim it to be but then again I will hold judgment until I watch the film.