Wonder Woman Box Office Speculation Thread - Part 3

[Marvin]

Personally, WW hasn't washed away the sins of DCEU past for me. Get JL right and on to the next step.

I don't think DCEU is in a place where we can assume that all future projects are going to be awesome. They haven't earned that type of cred just yet.

most franchises are in this same place.
not everyone thinks every sequel from anything is going to be 'awesome'.
I'm cautiously optimistic thor will finally 'get one right' for me, even with him still playing the lovable clown. The netflix stuff? starwars? this just doesn't exists that i can see.

save for fans that themselves love something. Then sure. But speaking generally...Not even nolan does that.
James cameron?

 

[Iceman]

Yeah, WW has all the signs of a great franchise-starter on its own, while also making a push to change the DCEU narrative, which I hope Justice League can continue.

The movie actually had no-so-great numbers in the continental European markets to start out with (which can be pretty big markets), but good legs in at least a couple of those places, so it's probably working like an introduction to the character over there.

I think the studio can expect to see some growth there for the sequel, and WW is already doing great in a lot of other places.

Yes more opportunities for growth in WW sequels and more opportunities to support/boost the DCEU.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

This is a little misguided. Halle Berry's Catwoman made zero mention for Batman (and for that matter, made zero mention of the real Catwoman) and Batman appears in Suicide Squad for a few moments. That's like saying all Marvel movies are Stan Lee centric because he appears in all of them.
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So 10 or 11 instead of 12? Catwoman is still a Batman related character and the assumption was this was going to be a spin-off of Batman Returns.
Was Supergirl not a spin-off of Superman just because Superman was never in it? If Catwoman had never existed in Batman's world and no one had ever heard of Catwoman before the movie probably would have
done even worse at the box-office.
Same with Suicide Squad. People knew of Harley Quinn from Batman. Would it have done as well without Harley Quinn? People sort of fell in love with her in the movie and there was no real reason to include her in Suicide Squad other than she was a popular Batman character. And the fact is Batman appeared in the trailers so people knew Batman was in Suicide Squad, no matter how brief.

I don't think you got my meaning.
Him cameo'ing in something, an episode of that thing, doesn't make that a batman thing for me. I don't consider the Avengers a marvel myopically leaning on thor due to him being in it. It's an avengers thing. I wouldn't even call spiderman homecoming an ironman thing. He just happens to be in it.

One of the selling points of Suicide Squad was Batman in the trailers. This showing the movie takes place in a world with Batman. I don't think Disney was trying to sell Avengers based on Thor being in it. And obviously putting Iron-Man in Spider-Man is to establish that Spider-Man is part of the MCU universe. Just like Batman in Suicide Squad to show SS is part of the DCEU.

If anything DC has leaned on superman even more than batman thus far.
Problem solved.

Interesting that you didn't start your timeline from the first big dc movie in the 70's there.

That being the case lets start it at 1966 when Batman had the very first feature length motion picture based on DC characters. Batman 1989 was the first movie with DC characters produced by Warner Bros. All WB was for the Superman movies was the distributor in the United States. Columbia distributed them in the UK. And WB had no involvement at all with Supergirl. Even Superman Returns wasn't produced by Warner Bros. So the only Superman movies produced by Warner Bros are Man of Steel, and Batman v Superman. And Superman didn't even get top billing in the last one.

 

[Marvin]

One of the selling points of Suicide Squad was Batman in the trailers. This showing the movie takes place in a world with Batman. I don't think Disney was trying to sell Avengers based on Thor being in it. And obviously putting Iron-Man in Spider-Man is to establish that Spider-Man is part of the MCU universe. Just like Batman in Suicide Squad to show SS is part of the DCEU.

one of the selling points of SS was batman was in the trailers. Ok. One of the selling points of avengers was that thor was in the trailers. Thus showing that the movies take place in a world with..etc. You're conjecture aside as to what the studios where trying to do, that's all that stuff both amounts too in reality, pretty much the same. The same was my point. The same as putting ironman in spidey trailers as you say...

An SS trailer could have had the flash chasing his own task force member but he's not around yet to sell a continuing universe, or superman if he wasn't dead. my point is that SS isn't batman, or more batman and less everything else. SS is wb making something new, like making a spidrman movie but having ironman is disney making a new thing and simply using ironman this time to help. As was my point. If the original poster meant wb needs to stop showing batman to connect things sure i guess. I thought they meant WB is only making batman stuff. Next we'll be calling the antman movie more captain america and less a new property cause u know, falcon.

That being the case lets start it at 1966 when Batman had the very first feature length motion picture based on DC characters. Batman 1989 was the first movie with DC characters produced by Warner Bros. All WB was for the Superman movies was the distributor in the United States. Columbia distributed them in the UK. And WB had no involvement at all with Supergirl. Even Superman Returns wasn't produced by Warner Bros. So the only Superman movies produced by Warner Bros are Man of Steel, and Batman v Superman. And Superman didn't even get top billing in the last one.

I asked why u started with 89 when "you'll believe a man can fly" seems more logical starting point, that's all.

as for all the technicalities..sure. Next kevin feige had nothing to do with getting this spidey made due to it being a sony thing.
WAit, WB didn't produce superman returns? who did? honest question.

 

[idiot09]

So Wonder Woman has leaped past Winter Soldier? I wouldnt have believed that a month back. Excellent. Suicide Squad and DOFP next.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

So Wonder Woman has leaped past Winter Soldier? I wouldnt have believed that a month back. Excellent. Suicide Squad and DOFP next.

It'll fly past Skwad and DOFP. Then it'll beat GOTG, SM2 & Deadpool as well. Wonder Woman is a Juggernaut at the BO.

 

[Juan1193]

4 million Saturday according to Rth! Should do between 9.5-10.5 for the weekend Great hold!!

 

[Greenlite]

Maybe Diana gets to get some leftover walk-in crowds from Spidey this time lol.

 

[Greenlite]

I overheard someone saying GOTG2 in its 5th weekend had a follow up weekend to a holiday and facing a new superhero film, earned 9.8M, and got another 30M after that.

WW had the same situation in its 6th weekend and is looking at around 9.5-10M, so could end up with 398M if pacing like GOTG2

and we all know it's outpacing GOTG2 and has more gas at the same point =)

 

[Iceman]

Let's get the big 400 up and achieve that final target!

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I overheard someone saying GOTG2 in its 5th weekend had a follow up weekend to a holiday and facing a new superhero film, earned 9.8M, and got another 30M after that.

WW had the same situation in its 6th weekend and is looking at around 9.5-10M, so could end up with 398M if pacing like GOTG2

and we all know it's outpacing GOTG2 and has more gas at the same point =)

Also, TDKR grossed around 7.5 million in it's 6th weekend and went on to collect 26 million more during the rest of it's theatrical run. WW has shown far better legs so far and will also beat TDKR's 6th weekend by 2 million. Also, TDKR had 2606 theater count at this point while WW comfortably beats it with 3091 theaters.

So, merely 26 million after this weekend gets WW to (368+26)=394 million. It'll do more than that.

Talking about late legs, August is pretty barren apart from Dark Tower, Anabelle: Creation & Hitman's Bodyguard. I think WW will do well late into August.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

WW is not only beating Vol 2 for dailies but it's posting almost double the amount Vol 2 did on the same day of it's theatrical run. At the same point Vol 2 had an impressive haul of 2911 theaters and WW still has more than that. WW should really push over the 30 million Vol 2 has snagged since WW released in theaters.

Vol 2 had to compete with The Mummy, TF5, and DM3 in between WW & SM:H's release. While WW will hafta compete with WOTPOTA, Dunkirk, Valerian and Emoji Movie.

WOTPOTA will appeal to the 18-35 (mostly male) demographic while Dunkirk will play to the older male demographic. I don't see Valerian breaking out and as of nao, it's projected to open with 20 million OW. Valerian won't make a dent. I see Emoji movie having a good run a la Angry Birds (2016) but in a smaller scale.

If SM:H can't put a spanner in the works this weekend being a direct competition and all that, I don't see how the releases in the coming weeks will heavily affect WW's daily numbers and overall legs.

I mean Wonder Woman will be the leggiest CBM on this side of 2002 and it's still only in it's 6th weekend. Just how freaking amazing is that. What an achievement.

 

[Iceman]

Yes, the dailies vs GotG2 read well at the moment.

 

[UncleSam1776]

Daily comparisons between WW & GOTG Vol 2

Day 1 - Day 35

 

[iEquinox]

WW is not only beating Vol 2 for dailies but it's posting almost double the amount Vol 2 did on the same day of it's theatrical run. At the same point Vol 2 had an impressive haul of 2911 theaters and WW still has more than that. WW should really push over the 30 million Vol 2 has snagged since WW released in theaters.

Vol 2 had to compete with The Mummy, TF5, and DM3 in between WW & SM:H's release. While WW will hafta compete with WOTPOTA, Dunkirk, Valerian and Emoji Movie.

WOTPOTA will appeal to the 18-35 (mostly male) demographic while Dunkirk will play to the older male demographic. I don't see Valerian breaking out and as of nao, it's projected to open with 20 million OW. Valerian won't make a dent. I see Emoji movie having a good run a la Angry Birds (2016) but in a smaller scale.

If SM:H can't put a spanner in the works this weekend being a direct competition and all that, I don't see how the releases in the coming weeks will heavily affect WW's daily numbers and overall legs.

I mean Wonder Woman will be the leggiest CBM on this side of 2002 and it's still only in it's 6th weekend. Just how freaking amazing is that. What an achievement.

Spider-Man did slow Wonder Woman down a bit. Looks like it cost Wonder Woman a couple million this weekend. But I agree that the other releases shouldn't affect Wonder Woman as much as Spider-Man did.

The biggest effect the remaining competition will have is probably on the theater count.

The chances of reaching $400M domestically are looking pretty good. $800M WW is looking more and more likely as well.

 

[mclay18]

WB will probably announce the WW sequel once it hits the $400M mark domestically. Or whenever Patty Jenkins nails the story treatment and gets a big pay raise.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Spider-Man did slow Wonder Woman down a bit. Looks like it cost Wonder Woman a couple million this weekend. But I agree that the other releases shouldn't affect Wonder Woman as much as Spider-Man did.

Of course. It would have been surprising if SM:H didn't even have a small effect.

Also if you're saying SM:H deprived WW of a couple of million this weekend then it would've made 11.5 million+.

The biggest effect the remaining competition will have is probably on the theater count.

At this point, the theater counts for other huge CBMs:

TDK - 3,163
Avengers - 3,129
AoU - 2,471
TDKR - 2,606
GotG - 3,221

WW's 3,091 theater count is very impressive. Also, I think Girls Trip will be a competition for WW. Girls Trip will bring the female audience that'll affect WW slightly.

The chances of reaching $400M domestically are looking pretty good. $800M WW is looking more and more likely as well.

 

[Micromind]

Even Superman Returns wasn't produced by Warner Bros.

So the only Superman movies produced by Warner Bros are Man of Steel, and Batman v Superman. And Superman didn't even get top billing in the last one.

Eh, Superman Returns was produced by WB.

 

[SomeOldGuy]

Spider-Man did slow Wonder Woman down a bit. Looks like it cost Wonder Woman a couple million this weekend. But I agree that the other releases shouldn't affect Wonder Woman as much as Spider-Man did.

The biggest effect the remaining competition will have is probably on the theater count.

The chances of reaching $400M domestically are looking pretty good. $800M WW is looking more and more likely as well.

I expect that the big losers theater-wise over the next couple weeks will be The House, a total bomb; Transformers, which just got evicerated by Spidey this weekend; and Cars 3, which is falling fast now that DM3 (which held decently this weekend) is out. Combined those three are in 9,000+ theaters but only took in about $16 million combined. they'll be going fast.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I expect that the big losers theater-wise over the next couple weeks will be The House, a total bomb; Transformers, which just got evicerated by Spidey this weekend; and Cars 3, which is falling fast now that DM3 (which held decently this weekend) is out. Combined those three are in 9,000+ theaters but only took in about $16 million combined. they'll be going fast.

Well, there you go.

 

[Marathon]

4th on Fandango and Movietickets.

 

[Mysteryman]

4 million Saturday according to Rth! Should do between 9.5-10.5 for the weekend Great hold!!

Wow.
Really appreciate all of that Amazon love.

 

[Mysteryman]

Maybe Diana gets to get some leftover walk-in crowds from Spidey this time lol.

Loving the Positivity!

 

[Blitzkrieg]

http://deadline.com/2017/07/spider-man-homecoming-box-office-opening-1202124834/

4.) Wonder Woman (WB), 3,091 theaters (-313) / $2.9M Fri. (-33%)/ 3-day cume: $9.9M (-37%)/ Total: $368.6M / Wk 6

 

[iEquinox]

Wonder Woman grossed an estimated $10.14M this weekend. 38-Day total stands at $368.79M.

https://***********/BORReport/status/884061618920800257

Thought it was funny that I used this exact number in this post :P

$10.14M would be a weekend drop of 35.4%.

Also:

#WonderWoman held up quite well against #SpiderMan. $10.1M wknd, off only 35%. New totals $368.8M dom, $745.8M global going to $800M+.

https://***********/GiteshPandya/status/884062798438965250

So it looks like the international total is now at $377M with the weekend estimate included. That would put the OS weekend at $7.2M if the weekday estimates stayed the same.

http://deadline.com/2017/07/spider-man-homecoming-box-office-opening-1202124834/

That's outdated, Spider-Man is still at 125-127M on that list. But it pretty much stayed the same for Wonder Woman anyway