The Dark Knight Rises You Have My Permission To Lounge - Part 2

[shauner111]

Hey Batlobster, i got another one for yuh...for your alternate universe idea.

Where does Batman get the idea of "branding" and judge, jury, executioner from...once he goes down that dark path? Ras Al Ghul/Ducard. This version of Bruce grows older, becoming more like Ras. Ras would be proud of his recent behavior and the way he's handling criminals.

Wasn't that suggested before Rises came out? That maybe Bruce would become more like Ras as he got older, sinking into an abyss?

 

[titansupes]

I usually refrain from watching clips... But Dat Civil War scene.

 

[Brother Jack]

Wasn't that suggested before Rises came out? That maybe Bruce would become more like Ras as he got older, sinking into an abyss?

I never thought it was coincidental that Bruce had similar facial hair and a cane at the beginning. The music in that scene even evokes Ra's and the league in Begins. Also relevant: the house coat he wears is Thomas Wayne's.

 

[shauner111]

As for the Civil War clip:

It's a really good scene. I know i made the stupid comment last week about how i'll still enjoy B v S over anything Marvel does. Well, that still goes for the majority of Marvels films, but Winter Soldier is a much better film than B v S. I certainly enjoyed Guardians more but i won't include that because one is a comedy set in space that i pretty much shut my brain off for. The DC movies attempt to be more serious and i try to pay attention to details. The Russo Brothers did well with Cap and i guess i was in my "Batman" mood when i made those comments.

Getting a tad excited for Civil War. Not gonna lie. Winter Soldier had some problems but Civil War will probably be more cohesive, fun, mature and true to the characters than Snyders experiment.

 

[shauner111]

I never thought it was coincidental that Bruce had similar facial hair and a cane at the beginning. The music in that scene even evokes Ra's and the league in Begins.

For sure, but i mean Bruce realizing that Ras was actually right along.

 

[BatLobster]

Hey Batlobster, i got another one for yuh...for your alternate universe idea.

Where does Batman get the idea of "branding" and judge, jury, executioner from...once he goes down that dark path? Ras Al Ghul/Ducard. This version of Bruce grows older, becoming more like Ras. Ras would be proud of his recent behavior and the way he's handling criminals.

Wasn't that suggested before Rises came out? That maybe Bruce would become more like Ras as he got older, sinking into an abyss?

Ha! You blew my mind this time shauner, didn't make any sort of connection there. And yes, Ra's would be proud.

In all seriousness though, I do wonder who Ra's is in this universe. He could very well be the Lazarus Pit dipping one. Although if a Lazarus Pit exists in this universe and Batman doesn't consider bringing Supes there after his sacrifice, maybe he's okay with Supes being dead after all.

 

[shauner111]

That would have been dope as f**k if they kept Supes dead at the end, and Bruce brought Supermans body to the new Ras Al Ghul in the beginning of Justice League. Why didn't they think of this!? F. Murray Abraham should be Ras. Berenice Marlohe as Talia.

Another quick thing. The JL scene where Diana opens the e-mail from Bruce, starts watching footage of Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg? That would have been good as a post-credit scene. Stupid Snyder.

 

[BatLobster]

To be fair, it seems like the main reason they wanted to kill Supes off was so Batman would have more of a reason to seek out the other metas.

And I agree, the scene where Diana starts watching footage of each of them really hurt the flow of the movie and felt like a post-credits scene shoved into the movie.

I will say though...for some reason, I actually freaking loved the part during Bruce's training montage where he's sitting at the Bat-computer looking at the files, despite how silly it is that Lexcorp gave them all logos. There's this really cool music there that shows up nowhere else in the movie and it's not on the soundtrack release, but I'm wondering if that was Zimmer hinting at the Justice League theme.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

So Warner/THR just confirmed Affleck directing The Batman. As we've previously said, the only reservations I have for this are Geoff Johns. Outside of that, I feel like Affleck is smart enough to acknowledge the problems people had with Batman's BvS characterization. Hopefully the end of BvS and then SS see that through anyway.

Who's still hoping for an Under the Red Hood adaptation?

The comic story is not as good as the animated film adaption of UTRH, I wouldn't wish for an adaption of that to the big screen.

And as this gentleman said...

Personally I would love an original story that borrows elements from different stories from the comics. There is so much material to be mined.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

As for the Civil War clip:

It's a really good scene. I know i made the stupid comment last week about how i'll still enjoy B v S over anything Marvel does. Well, that still goes for the majority of Marvels films, but Winter Soldier is a much better film than B v S. I certainly enjoyed Guardians more but i won't include that because one is a comedy set in space that i pretty much shut my brain off for. The DC movies attempt to be more serious and i try to pay attention to details. The Russo Brothers did well with Cap and i guess i was in my "Batman" mood when i made those comments.

Getting a tad excited for Civil War. Not gonna lie. Winter Soldier had some problems but Civil War will probably be more cohesive, fun, mature and true to the characters than Snyders experiment.

Me too man. Like, I enjoy The Iron Giant over BvS. It's a superior film by every measurable index. But it's just a kids film that is severely scarred with humor; so it can't be better than the dark and dramatic BvS.

 

[shauner111]

Hah! Sooo dark and dramatic

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Jared Leto sent his costars used condoms and anal beads. WTF?

 

[Greens]

Yeah, now we know why referred to anal beads at the MTV Movie Awards. He sent sticky Playboys as well.

 

[The Joker]

Jared Leto sent his costars used condoms and anal beads. WTF?

Apparently people are ripping him to pieces on twitter over this. Talk about getting angry over nothing.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Well, that's just rude. Sending used condoms, that is.

 

[Greens]

Apparently people are ripping him to pieces on twitter over this. Talk about getting angry over nothing.

I wonder how they feel about Ledger making fun of AIDS and dead babies in his Joker diary.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I thought it was blind babies? And yes, that is sickening. Guy was in full character.

 

[The Joker]

I wonder how they feel about Ledger making fun of AIDS and dead babies in his Joker diary.

Actually it was blind babies lol. Fun fact: he got all that from Grant Morrison's prose Joker story in Batman #663;

Heath Ledger’s Joker — no question it was an amazing performance. And if he were still with us, we could ask him about his various inspirations: what did he watch, what did he read, what did he observe, how did he inhabit his character? Well, one of the clues he left us was his Joker diary, which he kept four months before shooting.

In it, there’s a list of what would make the Joker laugh – including AIDS, landmines, geniuses suffering irreversible brain damage, brunch, and sombreros. “It gave me this chill,” Grant Morrison said, because it was word-for-word what Morrison had written in one of his Batman stories.

“There’s a Batman [Batman #663, “The Clown at Midnight”] that I did last year that hardly anyone read,” Morrison said.

As a response to his own “Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth,” Morrison had continued his themes of the duality of Joker and the Batman in “The Clown at Midnight.” Having established with “Arkham” that the Joker had a sort of “super-sanity” and that he shifted between personalities,” Morrison explored the idea further in “The Clown at Midnight,” by showing that each time the Joker escaped, one of those new personalities would emerge.

“It’s a really good story,” Morrison said, “but because it was prose, people didn’t want to read it.”

Except, apparently, Heath, who saw Morrison’s list and put it in his Joker diary. “He actually had a whole list — blind babies, doctors, accidents — really horrible stuff,” Morrison said. “Heath wrote it all down. So yeah, I can see there’s a lot of [‘Arkham’ and ‘Midnight’] in his Joker.”

http://www.mtv.com/news/2592648/ark...-morrison-opens-up-heath-ledgers-joker-diary/

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I wonder how they feel about Ledger making fun of AIDS and dead babies in his Joker diary.

He didn't send that diary to his costars.

 

[Greens]

He didn't send that diary to his costars.

Looks like they saw the fun in it, so does it really matter?

Actually it was blind babies lol. Fun fact: he got all that from Grant Morrison's prose Joker story in Batman #663;



http://www.mtv.com/news/2592648/ark...-morrison-opens-up-heath-ledgers-joker-diary/

Ah, yes. Disturbing nonetheless.

 

[shauner111]

Jared Leto sent his costars used condoms and anal beads. WTF?

He's a weirdo in and out of the movie business.

I don't really care, but Heath kept his "method" ways private. Leto's gifts sound a little too nuts like he's just trying to seek attention. I don't see how it's funny to send rats, used condoms, anal beads etc. Kinda dumb actually. Overboard.

 

[Greens]

He's a weirdo in and out of the movie business.

I don't really care, but Heath kept his "method" ways private. Leto's gifts sound a little too nuts like he's just trying to seek attention. I don't see how it's funny to send rats, used condoms, anal beads etc. Kinda dumb actually. Overboard.

I think Leto is a guy who just kind of.... does whatever he likes. He wears unconventional clothing all the time. Maybe it's for attention, maybe he's impulsive and just doesn't give a ****.

 

[shauner111]

I'm sure it's more for attention. If they found it funny, cool, but he's always been like that. That rockstar mentality. He always talks about his band and roles like he's doing the most important thing on the planet. Great actor though.

 

[Greens]

As long as he keeps putting on great performances I'm happy.

Not a fan of his band, though. lol

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Civil War reviews trickling out. To say they are glowing is underselling them. Empire, Total Film, Cinema Blend, all five stars.