The Dark Knight Rises You Have My Permission To Lounge - Part 2

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From Batman, to Birdman to (maybe) Vulture; Keaton is soaring.

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^ And Gwen Stacy was his daughter in that movie.
 
I'm more excited to see who's cast as Darkseid, and what he looks like, than anything to do with the heroes in Justice League. Ezra Miller might be able to add some humor actually.
 
the entire sequence was awkward lol
 
I thought it was a pretty cool sequence because it was so out there. But it should not have been in the film. Movie grinds to a halt to accommodate it and it has almost no bearing on the story that couldn't have been covered with a few lines of dialogue.
 
Yeah it's a cool sequence for a future Justice League. I would like to see an entire movie in that Mad Max setting. It could be a change from what we expect with Avengers. But of course, the tone, dialogue, film-making will probably end up being a problem. That's why im bummed out that George Miller couldn't take over right now from Zack, but use the same costume designs. Just direct the **** out of that concept, maybe do a second draft on the script.
 
If Vulture really is the villain for the new Spider-Man movie it would be quite interesting, since it is possible Spidey wouldn't even be in the MCU if Sony just let Raimi use him in Spider-Man 3 like he wanted to instead of forcing Venom into the film instead.
 
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I can imagine the mood it will cast over the JL set when Civil War gets the praise and success WB had been hoping to get for BvS.
 
Zack probably can't look Chris in the eye "I can't do it with one film, how did he do it with threeeeee!??? :csad: :thf: :waa:
 
"I made the films super dark, I made them talk about philosophy, that's what they loved about TDK no? Why are they hating this. WHY?"
 
I wish we had a better movie of the meeting of the two titans, one that is not only good, but is great, and does transcend the genre.

Instead of walking on a marble floor, we had quicksands under our feet.
 
Instead the first meeting between the two is where Superman let's the goons get away -- what's left of them anyways after Batman killed some of them -- and warns Batman with a not so veiled threat.

Sigh.....
 
I'm ready to let it go at this point. From the moment I knew that Zack Snyder would be the only director in history to get a "first crack" at doing a Bats/Supes film, my hopes for this movie never really got too high. And to me, the novelty factor is like the biggest appeal in even putting those characters together. You want to feel like these two worlds are colliding, but with the tone of Man of Steel was and knowing Snyder's affinity for Dark Knight Returns, it just always felt like they were trying to cram Superman into Batman's world. Clearly that was the intention, Snyder wanted them to feel like they organically exist in the same world, he's said as much. And he did achieve that. But to me the biggest sin of this movie is only paying lip service to the whole "black and blue, day vs. night" thing.

That's the movie that most people probably would've liked, if they'd delivered it. Maybe it wouldn't have been a great movie, but it might've been more enjoyable one that felt truer to the more classic versions of the characters. It was just way too early in the DCEU for a movie like BvS, IMO. Maybe the other films will give it some context over time, but for now it's just hard for me to like it, even though I don't hate it and enjoyed aspects of it.

Onto greener pastures for now. I'm getting legit excited for Civil War and Suicide Squad.
 
I can't let it go until i see the Ultimate Cut. Im anxious to either make fun of it endlessly or to applaud some of the changes. I won't however get over how stupid Snyder is as a person/film-maker even if he comes off nice sometimes. His lack of understanding of film and characterization is truly baffling.

We ALL should have known better, with a title like BATMAN VS SUPERMAN.

Yeah im also legit excited for Civil War and Suicide Squad. They're among some of my most anticipated movies this year. Along with Killing Joke, The Neon Demon (first trailer dropped and it looks stunning), Silence, Light Between Oceans, Story of Your Life, Rogue One. The trailer for Dr Strange didn't look shabby either, even though i have no idea what's going on.
 
I'll certainly give the ultimate cut a shot. I'm just moving on from hoping the theatrical cut grows on me. I've seen it twice, and was even pondering going to see it again, cause I wanted to check out the new AMC Prime near me and see if that theater experience lived up to the hype. But they already gave it the boot from the nice Dolby Theater to make way for Hardcore Henry.

Crazy to see how quickly this movie has lost traction. It's almost the anti-Batman Begins in a way, from a business standpoint. Begins had a decidedly low-key marketing approach. They were careful not to oversell the movie knowing there was a bad taste lingering from B&R. The movie opened modestly, but was a total sleeper hit. Word of mouth kept it going through the crowded summer season.

BvS was totally front-loaded. HUGE, expensive marketing campaign. Flashy title advertising Batman, Superman and the Justice League. Big opening weekend, then it falls off a cliff despite a lack of real competition.
 
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Not to harp on the film anymore, but am I the only one who found the action/spectacle of BvS pretty meh? Outside of the warehouse fight and I guess the initial fight between Bats and Supes I was pretty underwhelmed. I truly thought at least Snyder, of all people, would get the action right.

I'd take anything from the Nolan trilogy over what Snyder gave us in BvS when it comes to the big action pieces.
 
Right. The theatrical cut won't grow on me. Im disliking it more and more as i think about it. Damn shame too because Ben brings it in certain scenes and they all look phenomenal. It's sad more than anything.

JackWhite, the Batman/Superman fight didn't really do much for me after the first viewing. I still don't like the batmobile chase at all. Even if he wasn't killing folks, it's not a very good action/chase scene. Very CGI and not very well shot or edited.
 
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