The Dark Knight Rises You Have My Permission To Lounge - Part 9

[BatLobster]

I've been avoiding taking the plunge because I was worried about spending a whole bunch of cash re-buying a lot of films, but seeing these new TDKT transfers, even with their downconversion flaws, is really convincing me on the potential of the format and how it really may be worth it for some movies.

I do wish they were putting out remastered Blu-rays for the trilogy to hold me over until I'm set up. Begins is getting one apparently but not the other 2. Oh well, gives me motivation to get my setup going haha. I may not be able to look at the TDK Blu-ray again...

 

[OutOfBoose]

I bought a cheap 4K HDMI chord to connect my 4K player to my TV. Do I need to get an expensive? Would that make any difference?

I have a cheap one and it works fine.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I've been avoiding taking the plunge because I was worried about spending a whole bunch of cash re-buying a lot of films, but seeing these new TDKT transfers, even with their downconversion flaws, is really convincing me on the potential of the format and how it really may be worth it for some movies.

I do wish they were putting out remastered Blu-rays for the trilogy to hold me over until I'm set up. Begins is getting one apparently but not the other 2. Oh well, gives me motivation to get my setup going haha. I may not be able to look at the TDK Blu-ray again...

I got myself a setup for $1000 (TV + player) this Summer and I'm pretty satisfied with it. Not having truest blacks or dolby vision advantage is perhaps a let-down, but not for $3000 price. Deadpool, Leon, Dracula, Ex Machina, Blade Runner look fantastic and I can't freaking wait for Nolan and Harry Potter movies to arrive.

 

[The Shape]

I've been avoiding taking the plunge because I was worried about spending a whole bunch of cash re-buying a lot of films, but seeing these new TDKT transfers, even with their downconversion flaws, is really convincing me on the potential of the format and how it really may be worth it for some movies.

I do wish they were putting out remastered Blu-rays for the trilogy to hold me over until I'm set up. Begins is getting one apparently but not the other 2. Oh well, gives me motivation to get my setup going haha. I may not be able to look at the TDK Blu-ray again...

Honestly, since I upgraded to a 4K Smart TV, I haven't really double-dipped or re-purchased a lot of films I've previously owned, aside from a select few. But it's still great for the select amount of new movies that I've wanted to add to my collection or watch, as well as for something like Netflix, since pretty much all of Netflix original content is now streamed in 4K UHD. For the extremely easy access to apps and streaming services as well as the picture quality, buying a 4K Smart TV is a no-brainer for me -- putting aside the need/desire to rebuild our film collections with UHD Blu-rays. I can also obviously still watch any and all of the DVDs/Blu-rays I previously owned, so "taking the plunge" is not nearly as disruptive or costly as it once was to make the jump from VHS to DVD.

Aside from picking up some UHD Blu-rays, I've became a pretty avid user of VUDU (which came loaded on my TV along with my PS4). It's a pay-as-you-go service with no monthly fees that allows you to rent or buy movies and TV series. New 4K UHD and regular HD movies often pop up on VUDU as "exclusives" a few weeks prior to DVD/Blu-ray releases. I've built up a small collection of films I own on VUDU, which I can now take with me anywhere I go and watch on any TV or device.

VUDU is also basically Blockbuster on steroids. You can find virtually any film or TV series on there from any time period, as opposed to other streaming services which have a smaller selection that rotates and varies from time to time, or VOD services that primarily only have recent releases available. VUDU allows you to search by genre but also by dozens of sub-genres, which is cool ("Thrillers" separates into categories like Detective/Police Thrillers, Murder & Mystery, Psychological Thrillers, Classics, Techno-thrillers, etc). You can also filter by release date, most watched, top picks, and even by Rotten Tomatoes scores.

Since it's a pay-as-you-buy/rent service, it makes for a nice supplement to other streaming services like Netflix/Hulu and to making physical Blu-ray purchases for your more "important" movies to own. It also probably has the best and biggest collection of 4K movies in one place with easy access.

 

[Patchwork Man]

I see what they're doing. They're making everything too bright. They need to knock it off with that crap.

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[BatLobster]

I see what they're doing. They're making everything too bright. They need to knock it off with that crap.

I've explained this like 5x already lol, but I'm going to keep repeating it for anybody wandering into this thread.

What you're seeing is the result of the iTunes HDR to SDR conversion. This isn't the true 4k thing. HDR means the the highlights are going to be brighter and the darks are going to be darker. So in a down-converted 1080 version, the extreme bright shots seem like they've just been "brightened" altogether (giving it a washed out look), but it's not the case.

In short, it will look the way it's meant to look, and closer to what it looked like in the theater, with a proper 4k setup.

Honestly, since I upgraded to a 4K Smart TV, I haven't really double-dipped or re-purchased a lot of films I've previously owned, aside from a select few. But it's still great for the select amount of new movies that I've wanted to add to my collection or watch, as well as for something like Netflix, since pretty much all of Netflix original content is now streamed in 4K UHD. For the extremely easy access to apps and streaming services as well as the picture quality, buying a 4K Smart TV is a no-brainer for me -- putting aside the need/desire to rebuild our film collections with UHD Blu-rays. I can also obviously still watch any and all of the DVDs/Blu-rays I previously owned, so "taking the plunge" is not nearly as disruptive or costly as it once was to make the jump from VHS to DVD.

Aside from picking up some UHD Blu-rays, I've became a pretty avid user of VUDU (which came loaded on my TV along with my PS4). It's a pay-as-you-go service with no monthly fees that allows you to rent or buy movies and TV series. New 4K UHD and regular HD movies often pop up on VUDU as "exclusives" a few weeks prior to DVD/Blu-ray releases. I've built up a small collection of films I own on VUDU, which I can now take with me anywhere I go and watch on any TV or device.

VUDU is also basically Blockbuster on steroids. You can find virtually any film or TV series on there from any time period, as opposed to other streaming services which have a smaller selection that rotates and varies from time to time, or VOD services that primarily only have recent releases available. VUDU allows you to search by genre but also by dozens of sub-genres, which is cool ("Thrillers" separates into categories like Detective/Police Thrillers, Murder & Mystery, Psychological Thrillers, Classics, Techno-thrillers, etc). You can also filter by release date, most watched, top picks, and even by Rotten Tomatoes scores.

Since it's a pay-as-you-buy/rent service, it makes for a nice supplement to other streaming services like Netflix/Hulu and to making physical Blu-ray purchases for your more "important" movies to own. It also probably has the best and biggest collection of 4K movies in one place with easy access.

Yeah, that makes sense. I guess I'm mostly thinking that knowing myself, I may want to buy the 4K Blu Rays for a lot of my favorite movies to ensure the best possible experience. But VUDU does sound good.

The one thing I'm curious about is if VUDU will automatically update with new transfers, like iTunes is doing for the Nolan re-releases.

 

[titansupes]

Gosh. I'm going to have to start looking into all this 4K stuff in the next year or so. These look so great. Heck, I've never even seen the TDKT on bluray yet! I've been avoiding them because of the aspect ratio changes, which I know will take me right out of it.

 

[Patchwork Man]

I've explained this like 5x already lol, but I'm going to keep repeating it for anybody wandering into this thread.

What you're seeing is the result of the iTunes HDR to SDR conversion. This isn't the true 4k thing. HDR means the the highlights are going to be brighter and the darks are going to be darker. So in a down-converted 1080 version, the extreme bright shots seem like they've just been "brightened" altogether (giving it a washed out look), but it's not the case.

In short, it will look the way it's meant to look, and closer to what it looked like in the theater, with a proper 4k setup.

Okie dokie. I thought they were fiddling with these movies the way they recolored BvS.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I wonder if SW is ahead of yet another ****storm.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I wanna see Batman Returns in 4k. It already looks beautiful on bluray.

 

[OutOfBoose]

One of my biggest requests for 4K release is Batman Returns. Up there with The Matrix and LOTR theatrical.

 

[Iceman]

One of my biggest requests for 4K release is Batman Returns. Up there with The Matrix and LOTR theatrical.

I want all of those. LOTR Extended is the version I’d watch though.

 

[OutOfBoose]

No offence, but extended LOTR is a disgrace.

 

[DoomRulz]

I've nearly finished reading E. Paul Zehr's book Becoming Batman: The Possibility of a Superhero. It's really quite intriguing, all of the analyzing of the science and such behind Batman's possible real-world existence. Has anyone else read it?

 

[The Shape]

The day I get to watch Batman '89 in 4K will also be the day that I'll know I will die a happy man.

 

[DoomRulz]

The day I get to watch Batman '89 in 4K will also be the day that I'll know I will die a happy man.

The movie is so dark though. What'd be the point?

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

Superman and Memento (also Titanic, Die Hard, Dumbo etc.) were added to National Film Registry.

https://www.loc.gov/item/prn-17-178/

 

[The Batman]

Now, we just gotta get "Batman" and "The Dark Knight" in there.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Die Hard

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Batman '89 definitely deserves to be on the registry. Sadly, it's remembered more as a cultural phenomenon than for any merits the movie might have (Performances, Production/Set design, Score, Make-up/Costumes).

 

[OutOfBoose]

Reposting from blu-ray.com (thanks, nunyabiziz). UHD photos, for those worried it will be too bright:

 

[OutOfBoose]

OLED:

 

[Iceman]

No offence, but extended LOTR is a disgrace.

t: I much prefer them. Especially on the later 2 films.

 

[OutOfBoose]

t: I much prefer them. Especially on the later 2 films.

I hate it just as much as T2 extended/special edition. Completely ruins pace, tone. Weights down an already busy narrative and doesn't add anything worthy that would justify such increase in length. LOTR's Oscar for editing is deserved for a reason. I hope in time more people will realize extended LOTR is a piece of **** that spoils a cinematic masterpiece.

 

[Iceman]

I hate it just as much as T2 extended/special edition. Completely ruins pace, tone. Weights down an already busy narrative and doesn't add anything worthy that would justify such increase in length. LOTR's Oscar for editing is deserved for a reason. I hope in time more people will realize extended LOTR is a piece of **** that spoils a cinematic masterpiece.

The extended edition is not supposed to be cinematic or well paced. These scenes were cut for a reason. It's for fans who want to spend a life age of the earth in that world. I doubt people's opinion of something that old and aimed at fans is going to change a whole lot going forward. And it doesn't spoil the theatrical masterpiece of LotR because those still exist in the same format for the majority. Those are the films. These are separate adapted versions for home viewing only aimed at specific people, and most of those people were overjoyed (as in life materially improved ) by those editions. It obviously was not aimed at you which is cool.