The Dark Knight Rises You Have My Permission To Lounge - Part 9

[OutOfBoose]

Fair enough.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Colors.

BD:

UHD+HDR:

 

[Kane52630]

No offence, but extended LOTR is a disgrace.

 

[OutOfBoose]

What's even worse, extended LOTR has a reputation that it's the definitive version and the one to watch. And then people complain how overlong it is, and boring, and bloated... Ugh.

 

[shauner111]

I will never be able to sit through the extended versions. I just don't care enough.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I can't sit through the theatrical versions either. Bores me senseless.

 

[shauner111]

Lmao I thought I was the only one. There's things I like about each movie but Game of Thrones is more cup of tea.

 

[Ryan]

Well I bit the bullet and ordered the 4k dark knight trilogy. Looking forward to seeing these films again in this format.

 

[OutOfBoose]

So envious of you, guys. Hope you'll have fun watching it and and it lives up to your expectations, if there are any. I'll be able to get it only somewhere in January.

 

[Kane52630]

It's actually cheaper buying them separately.

 

[Brother Jack]

Colors.

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BD:

UHD+HDR:

Holy crap. I'm gonna need to get a 4K TV.

 

[batfreakforever]

I recently bought a 65inch 4K tv. A 4K av receiver and a 4K UHD Blu ray player just for large amount of 4K DC films. Now my kids and Wife will get this Trilogy for me this Christmas. I am truly spoiled this Christmas.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

So, what a gorgeous, moving, deep, complex, and delightfully unexpected The Last Jedi was. The fanboy outrage over it is a mystery.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

well, it looked gorgeous, I'll give it that.

I wouldn't call it outrage for me, just didn't agree with some decisions made regarding certain characters. no biggie. and most of the main characters just aren't terribly interesting to me. Poe and Ben Solo are great though.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

Empire asked people to vote for the greatest movie villains.

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/vote-greatest-movie-villains/

 

[shauner111]

Jedi was so frustrating. Beautiful looking movie with some nice scenes but just terrible writing, boring/useless subplots, characters have plot armor a la max (and not just one instant for one character either). Finally, after teasing some epic risk taking, the movie ends with no real progression to the overall story or characters. We're basically ending it similar to where we were at the end of the last movie, and now they shot themselves in the foot for the third movie which will likely be a predictable rehash.

I enjoyed it but when it was done, I kept thinking of that joke from the Sheen roast "It's all been very Christian Slater-ish. He sucks but he's good but he sucks at the same time". Lmfao.

Pros: cinematography, effects, island scenes, better acting this time around.

Cons: too long, Finn/Rose were irritating and useless, characters suddenly have extra super-powers that just don't add up, hyping risky s**t with no real risks as a result, Benicio Del Toro wastes his talent on a hammy character that meant nothing.

 

[The Joker]

Empire asked people to vote for the greatest movie villains.

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/vote-greatest-movie-villains/

Done.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

Jedi was so frustrating. Beautiful looking movie with some nice scenes but just terrible writing, boring/useless subplots, characters have plot armor a la max (and not just one instant for one character either). Finally, after teasing some epic risk taking, the movie ends with no real progression to the overall story or characters. We're basically ending it similar to where we were at the end of the last movie, and now they shot themselves in the foot for the third movie which will likely be a predictable rehash.

I enjoyed it but when it was done, I kept thinking of that joke from the Sheen roast "It's all been very Christian Slater-ish. He sucks but he's good but he sucks at the same time". Lmfao.

Pros: cinematography, effects, island scenes, better acting this time around.

Cons: too long, Finn/Rose were irritating and useless, characters suddenly have extra super-powers that just don't add up, hyping risky s**t with no real risks as a result, Benicio Del Toro wastes his talent on a hammy character that meant nothing.

Agree with all of this. A very frustrating experience that dampens any excitement for Episode IX.

 

[BatLobster]

Trouble in paradise! I actually loved TLJ guys. I think all things considered it may have been my most fulfilling and emotional rollercoaster-like franchise blockbuster experience I've had since TDKR, no joke. The movie played with my insides, threw me around, but I never feel like it went off track and by 3rd act I was invested HARDCORE which is where I'm usually mentally checking out of a movie these days. I walked out caring about the journey I got in this film, and NOT being asked to care about sequel bait for a change. I care about where the characters and overall conflict is going, but much less about whether X, Y or Z theory is true. And I was delighted to see Luke Skywalker get the biggest arc in this film.

The ending kind of reminded me a lot of how I felt at the end of TDK, where I knew there'd probably be another one but I also felt it left its chips on the table, made a strong thematic statement and felt like it could be a pretty solid conclusion to the saga in its own right if there wasn't a third one. Even though there's still obvious unfinished business in both cases.

If the third movie turns out to be a predictable rehash, I'll be disappointed, but I feel like the door is pretty wide open now. With Abrams involved I have some reservations, but I'm hoping he understands that the worst thing he could do at this point would be another predictable rehash. It's gonna be a fine line he has to walk, but we'll see if he can pull it off. I don't have total confidence but I don't have a complete lack of faith either. We'll see.

I think it's true that the main characters are only a little bit further along than they were in TFA, but that little bit further makes all the difference to me and made it worth the journey. Finn and Poe especially felt like cardboard cutouts in TFA and I feel like this movie gave them more 3 dimensional and took them where they inevitably needed go. I think Rey and Kylo faced the stuff she needed to face in this film and their connection was really exciting to watch for me. Finn and Rose's subplot definitely dragged the movie for me on the first viewing, but much less so the second viewing. I think it had enough thematic significance to justify itself, even if it wasn't exactly riveting. Then again, I've never had an issue with slower subplots in SW movies and felt it was a nice break from the constant hyper kinetic Abrams pacing of TFA. This movie threw a lot at you, but it never felt rushed or like it didn't have time to breathe either.

Agree to disagree though guys, it's interesting seeing all the different reactions. I have friends who I thought would love it and hated it and vice versa. It's all over the place.

(BTW- the bootleg 4K shots of TDK still look incredible and prove that the iTunes stuff is not what you go by, haha)

 

[OutOfBoose]

Empire asked people to vote for the greatest movie villains.

https://www.empireonline.com/movies/features/vote-greatest-movie-villains/

Voted.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Jedi was so frustrating. Beautiful looking movie with some nice scenes but just terrible writing, boring/useless subplots, characters have plot armor a la max (and not just one instant for one character either). Finally, after teasing some epic risk taking, the movie ends with no real progression to the overall story or characters. We're basically ending it similar to where we were at the end of the last movie, and now they shot themselves in the foot for the third movie which will likely be a predictable rehash.

I enjoyed it but when it was done, I kept thinking of that joke from the Sheen roast "It's all been very Christian Slater-ish. He sucks but he's good but he sucks at the same time". Lmfao.

Pros: cinematography, effects, island scenes, better acting this time around.

Cons: too long, Finn/Rose were irritating and useless, characters suddenly have extra super-powers that just don't add up, hyping risky s**t with no real risks as a result, Benicio Del Toro wastes his talent on a hammy character that meant nothing.

Agree and much more. I'd also add that Poe's story was really uninteresting too (turns out, outside Kyle and Rey, the rest of the new character is really MEH), Spaceballs humor, Luke treatment till [BLACKOUT]he shows up to protect the resistance[/BLACKOUT], disposable Snoke, disposable Phasma...

 

[Greens]

Agreed about TLJ. It kinda killed my hype for the rest of the trilogy. Hopefully it wins me back.

 

[shauner111]

Agreed about disposable

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Snoke and Phasma. Not that i ever cared about them, but Snoke was built up and then he's some flashy dumb looking idiot who dies in his second scene.

That's nothing though. I'm a supporter of diversity in cinema no doubt about it, but after watching Finn and Rose be irritating and useless, hogging up the screentime for some stupid sub plot, im convinced they're there only for diversity's sake.

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Finn should have sacrificed himself like he wanted to, it made sense. Rose saving him made zero sense. Her line to Finn right after was absolutely ******ed.

I loved the island scenes, but after Luke is a whiny ***** for most of the movie (and his reasoning for shutting himself off is like okay fine, whatever you say)...

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his arc is just not that beleivable to me. The Yoda scene was nice, but just fan service. All of a sudden he has inspiration again to fight the good fight, but now he has extra super powers? My friends complained that there was no light saber battle between him and Kylo, and that didn't bother me, it was more about Luke pulling that off just because of plot armor. And then he dies for no reason. So underwhelming. But hey,
he'll come back as a ghost in the next one when the plot calls for Rey to get inspiration to "dig deep" right?

There is no progress. Sorry batlobster, i disagree.

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Kylo and Rey are exactly where they were when Force Awakens ended. Or almost exactly.
What changed? Besides Kylo being in charge, yet he's not believable in a leadership role right now, because he's still a bipolar mess. He has too much weakness to be the next Vader in my opinion. Love the guy, but mostly because of his performance. Same with Rey. They could have done what good writers do, and back themselves into a corner that they have to pull out of. I desperately wanted Rey to take Kylo's hand, because what he said made sense AND it would lead to a huge WHAT THE F IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE THIRD? question. Instead it's back to basic good vs evil, Rey vs Kylo like Force Awakens. Which is fine if they can execute it well next time, but im NOT excited anymore for it. Rey learned nothing in this movie besides I'M NOBODY. What a cop out, and how is she a jedi after one movie? It took Luke and Anakin three films to become one. I wouldn't even call that island stuff training. Why does she have a strong force inside her like that?

Leia should have died. They had their chance and blew it halfway. Now they have to write her off in a dumb way. How does Leia float in space? Dumbest scene in the movie. PLot armor.

Chewbacca is useless without Han, at least he's funny. Porgs are cute. Casino scene should have been cut even if the visuals were breathtaking. Poe has more to do thank god, but he doesn't really get to do much. The final shot of the movie sucked.

I loved most of the first half of this movie. Everything made sense, it was exciting, i LOVED the Kylo/Rey connection scenes on the island and her being sucked into the black hole. They set up risky **** and then Rian Johnson fell victim to the studio committee mentality, by turning it all into a safe environment in the last half, where we're left with NO progress. Knights of Ren was ignored, so who cares about continuity?

Third movie is just another episode as far as i can see it right now. Same old ****. Will watch in the cinema out of curiosity, but right now i'd rather see Tarantino take one of these STAR franchises into risky directions. And now i can't help but feel like the next Avengers is going to feel the same.

 

[Shikamaru]

Saw Star Wars too but had too much on my mind to enjoy it. I wanna see it again before I make an opinion on it.

I'll say that I'm split between the Jedi scenes and everything else. The former I loved, the stuff with Poe and Finn I thought was boring. That and it felt like they Marvel-ized Star Wars in a lot of places with the humor. Hard to tell what to think when I was so out of it, though.

The Disney-Fox merger didn't exactly leave a good taste in my mouth either. The fan in me was giddy to think we might get the theatrical versions of the OT and Peter Parker and Johnny Storm together, the citizen in me is disturbed by the drastic rise in Big Business. That was yet another reason my mind wasn't on the movie that much.

 

[Brother Jack]

I think that it has problems, particularly Finn and Rose's subplot, but I loved a lot about it as well. So kind of a mixed bag. I definitely need to see it again to process my own feelings on it. I admire the risks it took, even if not all of them work, but I'm sympathetic to the people who felt cheated and let down by the movie.