JackWhite
Third Man
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Agreed about disposableSnoke and Phasma. Not that i ever cared about them, but Snoke was built up and then he's some flashy dumb looking idiot who dies in his second scene.
That's nothing though. I'm a supporter of diversity in cinema no doubt about it, but after watching Finn and Rose be irritating and useless, hogging up the screentime for some stupid sub plot, im convinced they're there only for diversity's sake.Finn should have sacrificed himself like he wanted to, it made sense. Rose saving him made zero sense. Her line to Finn right after was absolutely ******ed.
I loved the island scenes, but after Luke is a whiny ***** for most of the movie (and his reasoning for shutting himself off is like okay fine, whatever you say)...his arc is just not that beleivable to me. The Yoda scene was nice, but just fan service. All of a sudden he has inspiration again to fight the good fight, but now he has extra super powers? My friends complained that there was no light saber battle between him and Kylo, and that didn't bother me, it was more about Luke pulling that off just because of plot armor. And then he dies for no reason. So underwhelming. But hey,
he'll come back as a ghost in the next one when the plot calls for Rey to get inspiration to "dig deep" right?
There is no progress. Sorry batlobster, i disagree.Kylo and Rey are exactly where they were when Force Awakens ended. Or almost exactly.
What changed? Besides Kylo being in charge, yet he's not believable in a leadership role right now, because he's still a bipolar mess. He has too much weakness to be the next Vader in my opinion. Love the guy, but mostly because of his performance. Same with Rey. They could have done what good writers do, and back themselves into a corner that they have to pull out of. I desperately wanted Rey to take Kylo's hand, because what he said made sense AND it would lead to a huge WHAT THE F IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE THIRD? question. Instead it's back to basic good vs evil, Rey vs Kylo like Force Awakens. Which is fine if they can execute it well next time, but im NOT excited anymore for it. Rey learned nothing in this movie besides I'M NOBODY. What a cop out, and how is she a jedi after one movie? It took Luke and Anakin three films to become one. I wouldn't even call that island stuff training. Why does she have a strong force inside her like that?
Leia should have died. They had their chance and blew it halfway. Now they have to write her off in a dumb way. How does Leia float in space? Dumbest scene in the movie. PLot armor.
Chewbacca is useless without Han, at least he's funny. Porgs are cute. Casino scene should have been cut even if the visuals were breathtaking. Poe has more to do thank god, but he doesn't really get to do much. The final shot of the movie sucked.
I loved most of the first half of this movie. Everything made sense, it was exciting, i LOVED the Kylo/Rey connection scenes on the island and her being sucked into the black hole. They set up risky **** and then Rian Johnson fell victim to the studio committee mentality, by turning it all into a safe environment in the last half, where we're left with NO progress. Knights of Ren was ignored, so who cares about continuity?
Third movie is just another episode as far as i can see it right now. Same old ****. Will watch in the cinema out of curiosity, but right now i'd rather see Tarantino take one of these STAR franchises into risky directions. And now i can't help but feel like the next Avengers is going to feel the same.
Pretty much agree with all of this. I just got back from seeing it and I'm kinda bummed I didn't like it more.
Going back tomorrow with another buddy of mine for a second viewing.
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