Chapter 7: "Out of Time" Discussion 11/5/07

[web-head5]

Right, plus, didn't the other older heroes lock Adam away or something?

probably the same place they put Peter b/c they saw him as a threat. and then, voila! so meets Adam and Peter.

 

[Lurk]

If Adam killed Kaito as revenge against Hiro, why did he wait this long? Why now? He's been in the group all along and Hiro betrayed him centuries prior.

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

Does that mean you guys can't complain about my *****ing anymore?

No because your whining & *****ing is & will still be annoying

 

[Anubis]

He was imprisoned most likely by all the people he's marked for death. So when he got loose recently, the first one he went after was Kaito. He wasn't getting revenge against Hiro, he was getting revenge against the *****e bag who locked him.

 

[chitownballer]

If Adam killed Kaito as revenge against Hiro, why did he wait this long? Why now? He's been in the group all along and Hiro betrayed him centuries prior.

Keep in mind we have no idea how long they have had Adam locked away. It could have been for quite a few years for all we know. Plus with the time travel issue their could be a billion ways to explain it,none of which I will attempt. Or maybe I will a little, he waited for so long due to the fact that Adam knew the point in the timeline from which Hiro left and would return and Adam of the future didn't gain knowledge of Hiro until that point in the the timeline?

 

[Anubis]

It's more likely that Adam got to this time the long way, I.E. by living through it, founding the original group, attempting to take over the world or whatever, before being taken down and imprisoned by some of his fellow teammates or whatever you wanna call them. So, he's possibly been locked away for decades.

 

[chitownballer]

yes and he had to gain the 1st generations trust before he could turn on them, most likely he had killed off some in the photo before he was captured thats why it was spoken by Hiros dad that only 9 were left. Also in the photo was adam even in it or was he the one taking the photo maybe?

 

[Matt]

No, because he says EXACTLY what I've been saying back to you.

"We assumed the audience wanted season 1 — a buildup of intrigue about these characters and the discovery of their powers. We taught [them] to expect a certain kind of storytelling."

How many times did I tell you this? And yet you kept b****ing that the "dynamics" were supposed to change.

And Kring is acknowledging that they SHOULD HAVE changed the dynamic.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Pretty good episode, probably the best of a lackluster season 2 atm.

 

[Knives122]

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html

So yeah, the creator agrees with me. Does that mean you guys can't complain about my *****ing anymore?

So even he hates Wes or whatever the hell his name is. I guess we know which of the few nubs will be dead.

 

[Eddie Brock]

That's it. I couldn't not sig it!

(Double-negatives for emphasis!)

 

[b. goose]

So even he hates Wes or whatever the hell his name is. I guess we know which of the few nubs will be dead.

hey if they can kill off west *yay*, this can give claire a whole new direction in terms of character. being all sad and pissed off and actually doing something productive other than lying to her dad and cheerleading...

it was fine that claire had to find out who she was, learning to trust people and running away from sylar all season. but how the hell do u go from all that, to going into cheerleading and an annoying smart ass bf? she couldve been much more after the first season...

and in regards to the episode...im very glad they are back into the groove.

 

[Katsuro]

If Adam killed Kaito as revenge against Hiro, why did he wait this long? Why now? He's been in the group all along and Hiro betrayed him centuries prior.

Bob said they had Adam locked away until recently. He killed Keito because he was part of the group that locked him away.

 

[b. goose]

Bob said they had Adam locked away until recently. He killed Keito because he was part of the group that locked him away.

god knows how long hes been locked away too...

 

[Golgo-13]

Well it had to be within the older Heroes life times, so about 40-50 years tops. Which isn't that long for a guy that's sopposedly immortal, imo.

 

[KALEL114]

Yeah. Adam brought the 1st gen together. And then Bob said they all worked together until Adam started to get too full of himself (Changing the weather??). They then locked him away for the better good. From the scenes for the next ep. I believe, the company found Peter and locked him away also. Adam must have talked Peter into escaping by telling him a bigger threat is on the way and only they can stop it. Somewhere along the way he meets Elle (sent to find Peter). The Haitian catches up to him also and gives him amnesia and sends him off to Ireland. Should be a fun ep.

 

[b. goose]

An Adam and Peter tag-team would be awesome...

 

[Sebastos]

Well it had to be within the older Heroes life times, so about 40-50 years tops. Which isn't that long for a guy that's sopposedly immortal, imo.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

 

[Golgo-13]

Yeah. Adam brought the 1st gen together. And then Bob said they all worked together until Adam started to get too full of himself (Changing the weather??). They then locked him away for the better good. From the scenes for the next ep. I believe, the company found Peter and locked him away also. Adam must have talked Peter into escaping by telling him a bigger threat is on the way and only they can stop it. Somewhere along the way he meets Elle (sent to find Peter). The Haitian catches up to him also and gives him amnesia and sends him off to Ireland. Should be a fun ep.

If it went down just like this, i'd be happy.

 

[Abaddon]

yes and he had to gain the 1st generations trust before he could turn on them, most likely he had killed off some in the photo before he was captured thats why it was spoken by Hiros dad that only 9 were left. Also in the photo was adam even in it or was he the one taking the photo maybe?

9 were left because Linderman, Devereaux, were dead and Kaito expected to die as well.

hey if they can kill off west *yay*, this can give claire a whole new direction in terms of character. being all sad and pissed off and actually doing something productive other than lying to her dad and cheerleading...

it was fine that claire had to find out who she was, learning to trust people and running away from sylar all season. but how the hell do u go from all that, to going into cheerleading and an annoying smart ass bf? she couldve been much more after the first season...

She joined cheerleader because she had to back up her lie. She likes West because they have things in common. Neither of these things is a step back in terms of character development.

Yeah. Adam brought the 1st gen together. And then Bob said they all worked together until Adam started to get too full of himself (Changing the weather??). They then locked him away for the better good. From the scenes for the next ep. I believe, the company found Peter and locked him away also. Adam must have talked Peter into escaping by telling him a bigger threat is on the way and only they can stop it. Somewhere along the way he meets Elle (sent to find Peter). The Haitian catches up to him also and gives him amnesia and sends him off to Ireland. Should be a fun ep.

It looked like The Company found Peter and Elle was in charge of watching him. He managed to manipulate her(which explains the kiss) and free himself, along with Adam. Not sure how the Haitian is involved, but obviously he was working against the Company.

 

[Abaddon]

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html

So yeah, the creator agrees with me. Does that mean you guys can't complain about my *****ing anymore?

I agree with everything, except that it seems natural for Claire to find herself in a relationship. They just don't need to spend too much time on it.

 

[Syncos]

9 were left because Linderman, Devereaux, were dead and Kaito expected to die as well.

There were 9 left because Linderman, Deveaux and Mr Petrelli, were dead. That's what Kaito said, anyway. He wasn't counting himself.

 

[Abaddon]

oh, right forgot about Petrelli.

 

[Obi-Ron]

So even he hates Wes or whatever the hell his name is. I guess we know which of the few nubs will be dead.

He won't die, he'll just fly away when somebody [BLACKOUT]asks him to play by someone else's rules that aren't his own[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Matt]

I agree with everything, except that it seems natural for Claire to find herself in a relationship. They just don't need to spend too much time on it.

Claire should have a relationship, but does it really have to be that *****e bag that every high school has? You know, the one with the attitude of "oooh, look at me. I'm so anti-establishment! That makes me better than all of you?"

Also, does Claire's boyfriend really have to have such bad dialogue?