The Dark Knight Rises Details on Catwoman in TDKR

[Wheels]

Well, from what we've seen so far, I'll take Returns-Catwoman over TDKR-Catwoman any day....

You mean Crowwoman?

 

[RKO]

I hope he does! The Bat-Pod/Joker truck chase is the best action scene ever put into a Batman movie.

Me too! Like the Inception Hallway Scene, which is one of the greatest action pieces ever.

 

[helloiamben]

Even if the story about the stripper characterization is wrong Chris, who cares? Atleast you posted possible news without waiting until after it's revealed to say "see, see that, I knew that months ago!".

You get leads, you fish out the BS, and you post news. That's all you can do. If the story is legit, great, if it ends up not being true, well you still have your integrity and that's all you need to be good in my book.

 

[AnneFan]

Catwoman's strip club could be called "The scratching post". It's the name they gave in the elseworlds story Thrillkiller - the only time Catwoman has been a stripper. In that story she wore a cowl while dancing. The rest of the time she dressed in ordinary clothing and was an informant for Batman.

 

[Just_Human]

Well, from what we've seen so far, I'll take Returns-Catwoman over TDKR-Catwoman any day....

Sure

The weak chick who should have died after that huge fall, but instead turns into a super high flying confident villain after being licked by cats

Nolan is such a noob

 

[Travesty]

Sure

The weak chick who should have died after that huge fall, but instead turns into a super high flying confident villain after being licked by cats

Nolan is such a noob

Yup, that's what I said.

Look, Ma, no hands!

 

[ultimatefan]

I love Michelle Pfeiffer in BR, but not the character of Selina/Catwoman. I know she´s supposed to be based on the golden age CW, but the whole thing with her being seemingly resurrected by the cats, then overnight becoming a master acrobat and fighter, being a feminist psycho avenger instead of a master thief, and the whole nine lives thing... There´s an implied supernatural element I really hate. It was what inspired the God-awful 2004 movie BTW, they just made the supernatural thing explicit. But hey, she had the cowl, so that´s all that matters, right...

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

The cowl isnt what made catwoman in BR for me, it was Michellez amazing performance

 

[DaveMoral]

I love Michelle Pfeiffer in BR, but not the character of Selina/Catwoman. I know she´s supposed to be based on the golden age CW, but the whole thing with her being seemingly resurrected by the cats, then overnight becoming a master acrobat and fighter, being a feminist psycho avenger instead of a master thief, and the whole nine lives thing... There´s an implied supernatural element I really hate. It was what inspired the God-awful 2004 movie BTW, they just made the supernatural thing explicit. But hey, she had the cowl, so that´s all that matters, right...

It's funny that you are incapable of forming an actual argument so you resort to a strawman. Nolan could nail the character of Selina and it still wouldn't be a faithful representation of her without the cowl because the very act of donning a cat costume, eared cowl and all, is a critical element of her character. As critical as Bruce donning a bat themed costume.

Michelle Pfiefer was great, but the character was all wrong. I say the same for the Penguin in Returns. The whole sewer freak thing sucks, no matter how much I enjoy that movie.

 

[ultimatefan]

It's funny that you are incapable of forming an actual argument so you resort to a strawman. Nolan could nail the character of Selina and it still wouldn't be a faithful representation of her without the cowl because the very act of donning a cat costume, eared cowl and all, is a critical element of her character. As critical as Bruce donning a bat themed costume.

Michelle Pfiefer was great, but the character was all wrong. I say the same for the Penguin in Returns. The whole sewer freak thing sucks, no matter how much I enjoy that movie.

The part about the cowl wasn´t meant to be an argument, as much as a little sarcasm, and don´t give me nonsense about turning it personal or insulting or whatever, it was perfectly on topic, and I didn´t say anything about the posters, just the argument. The tone of your reply was totally unnecessary My focus argument, which you even seem to agree with, is that the character of Selina was wrong in the movie.

If you want an argument out of that, here it is. The cat theme can be represented in many ways, the Julie Newmar kinda mask, which the new one is meant to evoke, was cat-themed as well, it was meant to evoke the eyes of cat - and, by similarity, the eyes of a sexy woman. All that my remark was meant to say is I still prefer if Nolan nails the character of Selina/Catwoman even if she´s missing the cowl, a thousand times more than having the cowl, like in BR and the 2004 CW movie, but getting it all wrong.

Batman-news.com is reporting that there will be a cowl anyway, so this whole thing can well turn out to be moot.

 

[filmboy33]

Catwoman's strip club could be called "The scratching post". It's the name they gave in the elseworlds story Thrillkiller - the only time Catwoman has been a stripper. In that story she wore a cowl while dancing. The rest of the time she dressed in ordinary clothing and was an informant for Batman.

I like that idea alot. Selina working for the Batman, feeding him info on the mob's activites. Her access would be kind of limited, but I do like the idea of her being an informant to start, then perhaps a fellow vigilante by the end.

 

[Sharkboy]

Catwoman having a faithful representation (to a degree) is actually a lot more important than Bane, who isn't a major iconic character so they can take as many liberties if they want. Catwoman on the other hand, is what i like to call part of the holy trinity of batman icons. Where the characters transcend the source material themselves and are a worldwide known icon in themselves. That would be Batman (obviously) Joker, and Catwoman.

It's no understatement that Catwoman will get the most buzz in this film. So if Nolan wants to take liberties with the character and look, thats fine, im sure they work well within the construct of his story. He needs to adhere to the main points of Catwoman though. As joker was a different character with new mannerisms, they still had the purple suit, the white face, the green hair.

For Catwoman they need the ears, the claws and (but not nessesarily) the whip.

 

[Mister Meddle]

Catwoman having a faithful representation (to a degree) is actually a lot more important than Bane, who isn't a major iconic character so they can take as many liberties if they want. Catwoman on the other hand, is what i like to call part of the holy trinity of batman icons. Where the characters transcend the source material themselves and are a worldwide known icon in themselves. That would be Batman (obviously) Joker, and Catwoman.

It's no understatement that Catwoman will get the most buzz in this film. So if Nolan wants to take liberties with the character and look, thats fine, im sure they work well within the construct of his story. He needs to adhere to the main points of Catwoman though. As joker was a different character with new mannerisms, they still had the purple suit, the white face, the green hair.

For Catwoman they need the ears, the claws and (but not nessesarily) the whip.

 

[DaRkVeNgeanCe]

If you can have all those awesome iconic parts of he character And have her work the same exact way in the story with no change then why leave out those elements?

 

[GregComicFan]

Batman Returns is my favorite from the original 4 films (B89, BR, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin)... but even though I thought the Michelle Pfiefer's Catwoman was great fun, and she was excellent in the role, there's "Burton" written all over that interpretation of the character... you gotta admit that.

To be honest, I never understood BR's Catwoman's motivation. The way Burton showed it she was just a boring, nerdy, single, aging woman who got so down on her luck that she flipped out, tore up her house, and then got tossed out the window by Max Shrek. Basically, I saw her as someone who totally snapped and just decided to flip out and go around Gotham City causing a ruckus just for kicks... all of Burton's characters, including Batman, are psychos. That's a major difference between Nolan and Burton; obviously, Bruce Wayne has issues, but Burton's interpretation of all the characters was to bring out the "psycho" in all of them... Batman, Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, etc... I can't watch B89 or BR and not view all the characters as psycho in their own way. However, when I watch Batman Begins or The Dark Knight, I don't feel Batman is a psychopath... I don't think Harvey Dent was psycho (just vengeful)... Ras didn't seem psycho (he just seemed like a political terrorist)... hell, even the Joker seemed less psycho than the Jack Nicholson version in my opinion. The Heath Ledger Joker seemed less bonkers/psycho and more so just a guy who had something to prove about the inherent selfishness and evil qualities of every day people. Yeah, he was cruel, ruthless... but he seemed to know right from wrong... and just decided to go down the path of wrongdoing... whereas Burton's characters all seemed to be living in an altered reality... their own little worlds... out of their minds.

That being said, I think Nolan's Catwoman will be radically different. The Pfiefer version is a chick who snapped... she's a nutball. Why else would she tell Batman at the end "I just couldn't live with myself" and then apparently commits suicide... wow... if that's not a chick with issues, what is?

I don't think Hathaway will be a crazy psycho babe lol

 

[TheBatman072]

I date women like Burton's Catwoman.

It doesn't last long.

 

[Victarion]

^What usually happens?

 

[Dragon_316ca]

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1668688/dark-knight-rises-anne-hathaway-catwoman.jhtml

Video included. She said this is just 1/10th of what the suit can do.

 

[Batty-Leaks]

Ha, Perez Hilton picked up this story:
http://perezhilton.com/2011-08-08-n...-catwoman-character-in-the-dark-knight-rises/

Congrats.

 

[TheBatman072]

^What usually happens?

They freak the hell out and we break up?

 

[Doc Samson]

I still question whether Selina Kyle will ever run around calling herself Catwoman to begin with. If that's her little stripper alias or something (if she's even going to be stripper), I guess that's one thing but unless she's blatantly going for a symbol like Bruce or the Joker was, that would explain the lack of "Cat" like inclusions to her costume.

Technically, Dent never was Two-Face either, at least not the way we expected. Besides a nickname he despised, he never called himself that and never acted that way really, he was just out for revenge and once he got it, was willing to die right then on the spot. He wasn't going to tailor a perfectly two-tone suit and rob the 2nd National Bank at 2 O'clock on Feb. 2nd. I surmise Selina Kyle's "Catwoman" might be in the same vein...

 

[TheBatman072]

I still question whether Selina Kyle will ever run around calling herself Catwoman to begin with. If that's her little stripper alias or something (if she's even going to be stripper), I guess that's one thing but unless she's blatantly going for a symbol like Bruce or the Joker was, that would explain the lack of "Cat" like inclusions to her costume.

Technically, Dent never was Two-Face either, at least not the way we expected. Besides a nickname he despised, he never called himself that and never acted that way really, he was just out for revenge and once he got it, was willing to die right then on the spot. He wasn't going to tailor a perfectly two-tone suit and rob the 2nd National Bank at 2 O'clock on Feb. 2nd. I surmise Selina Kyle's "Catwoman" might be in the same vein...

Two-Face acted exactly as he did in The Long Halloween. Went on a killing spree killing those he(and his coin) deemed guilty.

He wasn't really called Two-Face in TLH either. But he also looked and acted like Two-Face. So far, Catwoman doesn't look like Catwoman. We won't know if she acts like Catwoman until the trailers/movie, but if this is her final look, they've already gotten 1 out of 2 wrong.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

I got permission from Hunter Rider to create this new thread. Here are some exclusive details on Catwoman from a reliable source:
http://batman-news.com/2011/08/06/exclusive-details-on-catwoman-in-the-dark-knight-rises/

I'd be surprised, really very surprised if Catwoman/Selina Kyle was a "stripper", this sounds like some needlessly dark take. I kind of doubt a Nolan movie about Batman that while adult is a PG-13 movie that tries to capture the teen market as much as the adults would featuring "stripping" as one of it's major plot points. Movies like this seem to like to skirt taboos as much as possible.

Look at The Dark Knight, rich people are not depicted as doing coke, murders are cutaway scenes, and even the Russian drug dealer is only dealing these psuedo-science, ficitious scarecrow drugs. I'd be surprised if an "abused stripper", and typical R rated topic, will be featured at all in these movies. Also the "more well written than the Joker" is a dubious statement, not because it couldn't be true, but because Joker is a far different kind of character.

 

[Doc Samson]

Two-Face acted exactly as he did in The Long Halloween. Went on a killing spree killing those he(and his coin) deemed guilty.

He wasn't really called Two-Face in TLH either. But he also looked and acted like Two-Face. So far, Catwoman doesn't look like Catwoman. We won't know if she acts like Catwoman until the trailers/movie, but if this is her final look, they've already gotten 1 out of 2 wrong.

And TLH isn't usually how Two-Face acted up to that point, which is what made it riveting.

All I'm saying is, before we suggest these photos don't look like Catwoman let's find out if, indeed, she's using that for her alter ego, or if she just happens to be Selina Kyle: female thief/vigilante. Not saying it's right, just saying...

 

[Doctor Who]

I'm happy with the new Catwoman; I feel alone in the dark on this one....