RoboCop Reboot - Part 2

[marvelman2006]

I dig the design just wish there were some gray to break it up a bit.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

It looks more like a body suit compared to a man who is mostly machine. Looks like a generic gi joe suit, like here:

The Mantis

Can't help it, restores memories

 

[TheVileOne]

Here are my main problems with this suit and this is just from the set photos. It's very possible the final product will better and more detailed:

It's all one color. I don't like the one toned color look and that it's just a bland, black, dark grey look.

It looks so rubbery and plastic. I prefer the original because it had this weighty metal look.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I like it all black
See the rubbery thing

 

[LordofhouseEl]

Was just curious but is it mandatory to have his mouth shown, I mean wouldn't it be more practical to cover his entire body.

 

[Viper81]

Exactly, Snuff. TR was a disaster from the get-go, this ones seems to be in the hands of more capable artists. As always, though, people are judging things out of context.

Calling Total Recall a "disaster" is a bit harsh. If there had been no original movie to compare it to, the new one would be considered a decent flick. I thought the visuals of Total Recall were pretty great, and the story was decent. It's not a super awesome movie, and it's not as good as the original, but it's far from a disaster.

 

[so-tite]

That's because that IS a robot. Not a Cyborg.

Given how much of the original RoboCop was actually organic, does that really matter, though? Like I said earlier:

Grew up with Robocop. Loved it. Watched it again for the first time in forever this weekend. Holds up okay, but incredibly dated. Classic 80's action flick, complete with nudity and swearing. Plot's not all that complex, which in this case is a bad thing. Not very hard to put pieces together as to what's going on. The summary of the remake, if accurate, strikes me as a little more intriguing. The performances make up for it to a certain degree, however. Though campy and over the top, they do pack a lot of personality.

As for the nuts-and-bolts of the design (no pun intended), I love what we're seeing. I honestly can't understand the level of whining. Set photos aren't going to show the suit as it's intended to look while lit, in action, on a big screen. Oh no, his hand is showing too! So what? His mouth is showing. What's the freaking difference? He's not a robot anyway. He's got a s**t ton of prostheses. To me, that would naturally lend itself to looking like a suit. Hey, that's what we're getting! It makes sense!

Damn, I'm getting madder and madder writing this. Bottom line, people need to ease up the reactions. It's not bad at all. The original isn't so immaculate as to warrant such reverence by the filmmakers as is being demanded by some of you. This is a few out-of-context peeks that are hardly the whole story. Chill out.

Actually, it's the opposite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN9hhmVByqY

In the physical sense, RoboCop was almost entirely robot vs. actual human.

...going further:

The movie's depiction of Murphy's struggles in reasserting his humanity also deals with themes of identity. This is even touched upon in the cyborg's construction. On the Robocop: 20th Anniversary Collector's Edition DVD, Paul Sammon states:

"Rob Bottin and Paul Verhoeven, and Ed Neumeier had all come up with a concept that there would be such a potential for psychological disruption. Even if you had supposedly wiped someone's memories and emotions they'd still might have some kind of residual humanity where if they'd looked at themselves as a complete robot with no relation to their past organic form, they'd completely freak out and have a psychotic breakdown. So the idea was that surgeons had literally skinned off Alex Murphy's face and then placed it on the cyborg. So it's not like they transplanted his head, they just took his face off and laid it on the cyborg, and that was to give him his own little sense of identity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCop

The original RoboCop was basically a brain-in-a-jar.

It's like this new design completely misses the point entirely.

im talking beneath that... both story wise and aesthetically wise

Aside from the satire and social commentary, for me, it's about what it means to be human. Again, the original RoboCop was a human brain in a robot body. I feel the movie asks the question of how much humanity can you strip from someone and how that humanity can still reassert itself.

 

[Alpha Born]

Those aren't successful in making you believe it was a man first. Those look like Androids, not Cyborgs. Robocop is a cyborg. Those take away TOO much humanity.

Yeah but Robocop was just an Android with a face made of flesh. He didn't have any other original body parts.

 

[SpideyFan866]

Yeah but Robocop was just an Android with a face made of flesh. He didn't have any other original body parts.

Yeah. but those designs lack human proportions all together.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Yeah but Robocop was just an Android with a face made of flesh. He didn't have any other original body parts.

They kept his brain

 

[Gold Samurai]

And he needs to eat a brown paste to sustain his organic systems.

Looking back it's really degrading for him to eat paste that looks like brown crap.

 

[Gianakin_]

Calling Total Recall a "disaster" is a bit harsh. If there had been no original movie to compare it to, the new one would be considered a decent flick. I thought the visuals of Total Recall were pretty great, and the story was decent. It's not a super awesome movie, and it's not as good as the original, but it's far from a disaster.

To me it's a disaster. And it has nothing to do with the original existing. It had Wiseman directing, 2 mediocre (at best) actresses, Farrel who's terrible in every non-UK movie and run of the mill visuals.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

To me it's a disaster. And it has nothing to do with the original existing. It had Wiseman directing, 2 mediocre (at best) actresses, Farrel who's terrible in every non-UK movie and run of the mill visuals.

Farrel was awesome as Bullseye
Dances around himself, gets hit in the forehead by the billy club

Back to this reboot
So is the new dude going to eat brown $#%^ like paste?

 

[Alpha Born]

They kept his brain

That doesn't make sense. Murphy got his brains blown the f**k out. So it would've been pointless to keep a dead brain. Unless they were somehow able to re-grow the missing pieces of it.

 

[Alpha Born]

Yeah. but those designs lack human proportions all together.

Those designs were humanoid enough. As long as we see his face those designs are fine. But I woundn't use'em in the movie.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

That doesn't make sense. Murphy got his brains blown the f**k out. So it would've been pointless to keep a dead brain. Unless they were somehow able to re-grow the missing pieces of it.

He lost his arm, not brain
He was able to see CPU people messing with him

 

[Bruce Malone]

I think his point was it was stupid seeing him get shot in the head. When that would have messed up his brain.

If they only needed a human brain you think they'd have gone after one without a bullet in it?

 

[Alpha Born]

He lost his arm, not brain
He was able to see CPU people messing with him

Murphy got shot in the head by the dude in the glasses. Which means that his brains can no longer function. So again, why would the doctors save his brain???

 

[Gianakin_]

You can survive a shot in the head. They salvaged what they could from his brain and put it in the robotic body. That was the point of Murphy's memories and consequently humanity getting out, they stemmed from HIS brain.

 

[<(o_o)>]

And he needs to eat a brown paste to sustain his organic systems.

Looking back it's really degrading for him to eat paste that looks like brown crap.

It was baby food anyways.

 

[Slushy]

You can survive a shot in the head. They salvaged what they could from his brain and put it in the robotic body. That was the point of Murphy's memories and consequently humanity getting out, they stemmed from HIS brain.

Agreed. Gabrielle Giffords is a testament to that. Her recovery is amazing considering she shouldn't have survived.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Agreed. Gabrielle Giffords is a testament to that. Her recovery is amazing considering she shouldn't have survived.

She should have come back as a kick ass justice enforcing cyborg

 

[Alpha Born]

You people do realize that those people who survived a bullet to the head were still alive right??? Their brain was still functioning. Murphy was dead after that head shot. There's a big difference between the two. I know Robocop is a Sci-Fi movie, but my point still remains.

 

[Gianakin_]

He was proclaimed clinically dead in the hospital AFTER they spent entire minutes trying to save him. He didn't die when they shot him. And even then, your brain doesn't die at once (it takes around 20 minutes I think).

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

No it doesn't. Murphy wasn't dead after the head shot, he died at the hospital.
The brain doesn't stop working after your death, there is still activity for few seconds. Right after he is declared dead Murphy was promptly taken cared of by OCP Security Concept team who prevented his body and brain to decay.