RoboCop Reboot - Part 2

[JokerLedger]

the side view reminds me of this

 

[TheBeastWithin]

the side view reminds me of this

I think the profile of the visor looks more like Gatchaman or Silverhawks but mostly I think it looks rad.

 

[ThePunisher]

That what if scenario can be applied to many movies.
There is a chance of this movie being a success. Or not. It all depends on how the movie is made AND how it's going to be promoted. The later is very important. If the flick is good on i's own , then the big task will be to get the audience in the first weeks. Succeed with that , then WOM will help the movie

Now the question is: are the new generations prepare for a new RoboCop?

This movie in the 80's was epic, with a lot of FX and good acting (if I can say, 80's was a great time for movies), but now we have all the crapfest (remakes, reboots, sequels, etc) combined with popcorns and all the merchandise that hollywood put on is way. The result? pure crap...

Too bad that Dredd 3D couldn't make it, in Mexico City cinemas, the movie only was for 5 days!!!!

 

[JokerLedger]

I think the profile of the visor looks more like Gatchaman or Silverhawks but mostly I think it looks rad.

also this

 

[MadVillainy]

That what if scenario can be applied to many movies.
There is a chance of this movie being a success. Or not. It all depends on how the movie is made AND how it's going to be promoted. The later is very important. If the flick is good on i's own , then the big task will be to get the audience in the first weeks. Succeed with that , then WOM will help the movie

i think being released in Feb might help. There isnt much competition in Feb. besides rom coms usually

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

I hope that in the scenes where robo takes of the visor, we get to see something which is as shocking and well done as in the original when we see Murphy's face for the first time after he removes the helmet.

It really looked as if he was a part of that mechanical skull and neck. Perfect make-up effects.

The new movie has a lot of expectations to live up to. I for one hope that they meet and surpass them.

 

[TheBeastWithin]

I hope that in the scenes where robo takes of the visor, we get to see something which is as shocking and well done as in the original when we see Murphy's face for the first time after he removes the helmet.

It really looked as if he was a part of that mechanical skull and neck. Perfect make-up effects.

The new movie has a lot of expectations to live up to. I for one hope that they meet and surpass them.

It's now a retractable visor giving him a face to show to the public.

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

It's now a retractable visor giving him a face to show to the public.

Spoiler

What a cop out, if you'll excuse the pun...

 

[Gold Samurai]

I'm sure Keaton can share some stories about his time in a rubber suit




Keaton- You're lucky. I couldn't even turn my head.

 

[TheBeastWithin]

Hahaha. "Ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?"

 

[ChickenScratch]

From the shape and how shiny the visor is I know at some point in the movie we are gonna catch a reflection of the camera or some other stuff the crew is using.

 

[Kane52630]

Post production?

 

[ChickenScratch]

Things slip through. Always happens in an effects heavy movie ... except Avatar.

 

[dark_b]

It's now a retractable visor giving him a face to show to the public.

this is how he will look without the helmet in the movie? i thought he was without the helmet when they were on breaks.

so the face will not weird/scary? it will look normal?

 

[Gold Samurai]

This Robocop is made to be public friendly.

-The exposed hand

-A non freakish appearance when his visor is retracted.


It's a shame because that was one of the most shocking things in the 87 movie

The air tubing and all the kibble and bits made the melding of human and machine more gruesome

Look at the detailing! I could actually believe that.


The 2013 movie seems "watered down" to me.

In the movie Robocop has to look friendly. Some of it is sadly bleeding through to the actual movie. We're living in a more PC world than the 80's.

Robocop 2013 isn't threatening. He's marketable. I wouldn't be surprised if this movie gets a PG-13 rating.

 

[Travesty]

I thought they were going for PG-13?

 

[Wookie-Balls]

They even say Robo will be programmed to PG13 in the script. Then he just goes about tasering people for 2/3 of the script...

I doubt there will be much blood and gore in this version at all...

 

[TheBeastWithin]

this is how he will look without the helmet in the movie? i thought he was without the helmet when they were on breaks.

so the face will not weird/scary? it will look normal?

Yes this is his look when the visor is retracted in the film. This is from his introduction to the public scene.

 

[Super Kal]

looks like another "man-in-a-suit" movie to me... nothing unique or special about it.

the 87 movie had something unique about it: it had the thought of trying to bring cybernetic technology and human body together.

that's what made it look actually real.

i look at this suit now, i dont see a human brain woven within a construct of cybernetic machinery... it's just another "iron man" to me. it's too human. it's not supposed to be user-friendly. that's what made the first robocop work. the mix between cybernetics and the human body has never been smooth, or user friendly.

 

[Balthus Dire]

So, is he just gonna have the visor on for patrol and stuff, then? And then retract it during dialogue scenes?

if so, that's completely lame as balls.

 

[TheBeastWithin]

 

[Dyson]

This Robocop is made to be public friendly.

-The exposed hand

-A non freakish appearance when his visor is retracted.


It's a shame because that was one of the most shocking things in the 87 movie

The air tubing and all the kibble and bits made the melding of human and machine more gruesome

Look at the detailing! I could actually believe that.


The 2013 movie seems "watered down" to me.

In the movie Robocop has to look friendly. Some of it is sadly bleeding through to the actual movie. We're living in a more PC world than the 80's.

Robocop 2013 isn't threatening. He's marketable. I wouldn't be surprised if this movie gets a PG-13 rating.

Spoilers!!!!!




I agree that the reveal of RoboCop’s face in the original was a ‘shocking’ scene in the original and one the best moments of that film. No doubt about it!

However, the direction this RoboCop is taking makes more sense for modern times. By allowing the public to see his face and another part of his body i.e. his hand, he isn’t has intimidating until his visor is down. Characters in the January 2012 script want him to be marketable while being intimidating and likeable at the same time. This plays into the theme of what makes us human. This company, OmniCorp, takes the life of a man, destroys him physically, and tinkers with his emotions and memories all to just sale a product! The script does stretch that point out in a good way as the script is not just a mindless action movie as this could have been. This could be Total Recall all over again but honestly, from what we have seen and read so far, this will NOT be a mess like Total Recall.

Yes, the new RoboCop is designed to be PG-13ish and that is suggested in the script by a character BUT...

Like the scene that revealed RoboCop’s face, there are two key moments in the scene that if filmed right, could live up to that raw emotion of that original scene: after Murphy is told he was gunned down and Norton with his crew are attaching a robotic body what’s left of him, he is shown what little left of him there is. All that’s left is about 75% of his head, his neck, about 35% of his chest and shoulders and his right arm and hand. Murphy is shocked and begins to tear up at the sight of him. He thinks he is a monster. He asks Norton to end his life but Norton convinces him that becoming RoboCop is the best thing for him.

The next moment is after RoboCop is revealed to the public Ellen Murphy finally gets to see her husband behind closed doors. When she sees him, Norton and his crew have taken off the robotic body. Murphy is hung up like a slab of dead meat. Norton has also screwed around with Murphy’s voice box. Ellen gets emotional from the sight Alex’s ruined body. She talks to him but when he opens his mouth to talk, all that comes out are twisted noises. She runs out crying.

Also, RoboCop does use a taser gun for a chuck of the script, but once he starts to remember who he really is again, he trashes the taser gun for a handgun with bullets. The script then goes into full R rated mode.

This movie isn't "watered down" but just different and this is coming from a big fan of the original!

 

[Van Petrol]

Regarding the gruesome/gore sense of his actual appearance,

Spoiler

there is a scene in the script where Murphy is actually shown all that is physically left of him before he is rebuilt into Robo. So there may be something there that may offer the shocking reality of what has happened to him and what there is physically left of him that will eventually be built into the Robo unit.

Edit - Dyson has already gone into detail about what I am referring to.

 

[Super Kal]

we'll have to wait and see if this generates a positive response financially wise for this movie

 

[The Guard]

Re: The visor.

When Murphy removed his visor/headpiece in the original, he was usually off duty.

I'm betting that more comes off and that there's more to uncover than just his visor retracting. I'm sure there will be "gruesome" elements to Robocop.