The Dark Knight Rises Details on Catwoman in TDKR

[dark_b]

I agree, but I also think that she said all that she was allowed to say. If she'd been that direct about it, it would have been little different than saying, "Oh, don't worry. It does have cat ears." Nolan/WB would crucify her over it. She's trying to please both parties by giving a very vague reassurance.

WB/Nolan would ''crucify'' her for saying that the suit has ears but they will not because she said that there is more to the suit then in this image?

come on

 

[DaveMoral]

Neither is Catwoman . Considering her costume has changed so many times over the years .

That's a ludicrous assertion. The majority of Catwoman's appearances in all media has her with a cowl and her earliest appearance without quickly changed and her look mimicking the Newmar costume was very brief.

Wolverine kn the other hand has had numerous costume changes but his single most iconic look is him without the mask. Catwoman without an overtly cat like look is the opposite of iconic and it's a contradiction of her character as ir is a defining trait, especially since 1988-89, that she dons the costume cowl and all at all. The same cannot be said of Wolverine, as he is identifiable with out the costume while Catwoman is not if you are being truly honest.

 

[KRIM]

I agree, but I also think that she said all that she was allowed to say. If she'd been that direct about it, it would have been little different than saying, "Oh, don't worry. It does have cat ears." Nolan/WB would crucify her over it. She's trying to please both parties by giving a very vague reassurance.

Perhaps, but I don't see that much for interpretation. The fact that she complimented the fans that were pleased with the picture, is just short of confirmation that this is final. If her only reassurance to the doubters was "it can do stuff", well, that doesn't address anything.

I'd love to be wrong because I'm incredibly underwhelmed.

 

[floreairfoot]

Perhaps, but I don't see that much for interpretation. The fact that she complimented the fans that were pleased with the picture, is just short of confirmation that this is final. If her only reassurance to the doubters was "it can do stuff", well, that doesn't address anything.

I'd love to be wrong because I'm incredibly underwhelmed.

Then I'm afraid to say, you have bad taste, good sir.

 

[Bathead]

If the photo is the final costume, I'm okay with it. It doesn't scream "Catwoman"... or anything cat oriented... but whatever.

I'm in the group that doesn't expect this photo shows the finalized costume.

I think there's more.

That's just it, who says it is the final costume? Since we don't really know, it seems kinda silly to me to get our collective knickers in a twist about it.

 

[Bathead]

Why are we assuming there is more to giveaway?

Why are some assuming there isn't?

 

[KalMart]

Why are some assuming there isn't?

Well....with every other major character in this movie series, whenever we've gotten 'official' looks, it's pretty much been all there is once we've seen full shots et al. So it's a pretty fair bet to think that we are getting the full look. So if that's the case, we'll have to wait to see how the movie utilizes the look/character in full context. Also, judging by what we've gotten in earlier films, that's what these movies do best, as opposed to getting a 'comic-like' character look...so in that respect, there's a lot to look forward to.

But sure, we may only be seeing one 'function/format' of the entire character look/suit from this one photo of one piece of the action that the character is involved in. However, I doubt the production would be comfortable releasing it if they knew it'd be 'incomplete' or misleading. It isn't really how they've rolled thus far.

 

[Frodo]

I think there are valid points on both ends of the cowl or not to cowl debate. It's true that Catwoman's look has changed over 70 years and a mask or cowl have not always been present . However, by the same token ,I think it's fair to say that to even most non fanboys Catwoman has some feature which implies she has a cat like nature such as the mask, (that Hathaway, Newmar and Kitt have), Cat Ears(Like Newmar and Co) or a cowl(Like in BR). Like Superman and Batman, Catwoman is a pop culture icon so it's hard to argue that people don't have a set image of her in their minds whether that's fair or not. It no doubt differs from person to person but it's not like she is a character like Peggy Carter who was introduced to the public at large in CA.

For me, the googles alone don't scream Catwoman because visually it could actually be Talia, Emma Peel, or Black Widow. However, with Hathaway's mask on I can buy it and say ,"Yeah, that's Catwoman". It's a subtle change to be sure , but it does make a difference imo . I think the addition of a mask seperates her from just being some woman in a leather jump suit. On the bright side of this whole debate , it seems that fans don't seem to have a problem with Hathaway in the role anymore.

 

[Sith Scotti]

That's a ludicrous assertion. The majority of Catwoman's appearances in all media has her with a cowl and her earliest appearance without quickly changed and her look mimicking the Newmar costume was very brief.

Wolverine kn the other hand has had numerous costume changes but his single most iconic look is him without the mask. Catwoman without an overtly cat like look is the opposite of iconic and it's a contradiction of her character as ir is a defining trait, especially since 1988-89, that she dons the costume cowl and all at all. The same cannot be said of Wolverine, as he is identifiable with out the costume while Catwoman is not if you are being truly honest.

Thats more nonsesense . Julie Newmar is arguably the most famous Catwoman and she has no cowl ? If you people prefer the mask or cowl that is your right , but to say the costume has to have it is nonesense considering the most famous ( or right behind MP on Returns) does not .

It still amazes me that people can justify no costume for Wolverine but are going nuts over the lack of a cowl .... Its hypocracy . I am sorry you can try and say the Clawd are the costume all you want . It is far differenrt look from the comic book appearances.

 

[Solidus]

I think there are valid points on both ends of the cowl or not to cowl debate. It's true that Catwoman's look has changed over 70 years and a mask or cowl have not always been present . However, by the same token ,I think it's fair to say that to even most non fanboys Catwoman has some feature which implies she has a cat like nature such as the mask, (that Hathaway, Newmar and Kitt have), Cat Ears(Like Newmar and Co) or a cowl(Like in BR). Like Superman and Batman, Catwoman is a pop culture icon so it's hard to argue that people don't have a set image of her in their minds whether that's fair or not. It no doubt differs from person to person but it's not like she is a character like Peggy Carter who was introduced to the public at large in CA.

For me, the googles alone don't scream Catwoman because visually it could actually be Talia, Emma Peel, or Black Widow. However, with Hathaway's mask on I can buy it and say ,"Yeah, that's Catwoman". It's a subtle change to be sure , but it does make a difference imo . I think the addition of a mask separates her from just being some woman in a leather jump suit. On the bright side of this whole debate , it seems that fans don't seem to have a problem with Hathaway in the role anymore.

Very good post and I agree pretty much. The exclusion of the cat ears does pain me some what because it is such an iconic figure in the comics. However there is parts of the iconic look there, just not the ears. I think the suit is 90% superb but with a big notch taken out without ears. The goggles may do way more too which Anne said that may be interesting if they flip up in some ear form. I do agree the goggles do separate her enough to just being a woman in leather. And I think seeing the goggles in action and doing some of the actions she says they will do it becomes more clear.

As for Kal's post above, I agree in parts, but Scarecrow even his first image, was not the final look of Scarecrow in at the end with the straight jackets giving him more of the Scarecrow look. And with the Joker a lot of the initial shots had him out of the purple and green typical suit. This pic was rushed it seemed by marketing, and its seems pretty clear they took it the day before. I would really like to hear Gill's comments on it, because he said they had a Catwoman promo pic since early June, and I have a feeling that is not it. I think there is massive room for evolution of the character/costume through out, like Dent it may be more of surprise to show the full reveal of her. And from rumors we have heard I think there is a good chance there will be more.

If not, I will be slightly disappointed but I'm sure in context it will work fine, that is one thing Nolan so far to me has not disappointed in. I mean Burton made the most radical change of all and lots here (including me) liked the film Batman Returns. Penguin is an A-List rouge, and Burton gutted the core aspects of the characters motivation and drive. He kept the main elements I do agree of the visuals (minus the black blood, monster teeth, and flipper hands) kept some of the elements. However he went from a gentleman of crime, a man of lavish taste and of high society , and a man that just wanted to be as wealthy as he could through illegal means. In BR he was a mutant monster that was abandoned by his parents, and lived with circus freaks in the sewer, while raising and army of penguins to extract revenge on all of Gotham by killing kids (which Penguin was not really a homicidal psychopath in the comics) but that radically flipped in BR. Now I love that interpretation but it was a massive overhaul from the original character, massive. And yet I still liked it in its context.

So I figure these changes won't be that big, and these characters have a lot more to show. I'm actually more intrigued now about Bane and his voice and what could come of it, they are taking some different routes but the main aspects of these characters seem to be intact with some tweaks here and there. Bane seems highly intelligent, and strategical, with massive strength by using a drug, to whomp on Batman. I am so excited to see a full trailer with Bane and Catwoman in action.

 

[jabroni2kz]

the quote a lot of you have been waiting for

http://www.shockya.com/news/2011/08...graphers-on-the-set-of-the-dark-knight-rises/

Anne: even the picture that he released of me, that’s not everything. That’s like a tenth of what the catsuit is.

“I’m having a lot of fun working on Chris Nolan’s ‘Batman,’ the latest Batman movie. I’m having an absolute blast doing it, but it’s very big. The thing that’s wonderful about Chris is that he is the most successful person in Hollywood at the moment, but his movies aren’t Hollywood. It feels like you’re making an indie. He’s actually a really alternative filmmaker. He just happens to have like a seven billion figure budget. [Laughs] I like to call him Hitchcock, but he blows things up.”

They just released your first official still, but we also got a ton of unofficial material from the fans hanging around the set. How does that make you feel? Is it stealing your thunder and is there any concern about revealing too much about that final product?
It’s disappointing. I think everyone feels a slight frustration with it because those stills so undercut the work that’s being done. No, no one’s nervous about it. I mean, honestly, like, wait till you see this movie. Chris is doing insane things in it. And it’s gonna be marvelous and it’s gonna be way beyond what anyone imagines that it could be. You can’t imagine the things that he’s doing, at least I couldn’t until I read the script and I was like, ‘You’re really? Okay, you’re going there!” And it’s Chris Nolan; even the picture that he released of me, that’s not everything. That’s like a tenth of what the catsuit is. And I’ve got to say, I find it frustrating and I know he finds it frustrating, but I also think that he’s having fun with it, kind of like spooning out secrets. He has a lot more control than you think.

 

[Solidus]

the quote a lot of you have been waiting for

http://www.shockya.com/news/2011/08...graphers-on-the-set-of-the-dark-knight-rises/

Anne: even the picture that he released of me, that’s not everything. That’s like a tenth of what the catsuit is.

“I’m having a lot of fun working on Chris Nolan’s ‘Batman,’ the latest Batman movie. I’m having an absolute blast doing it, but it’s very big. The thing that’s wonderful about Chris is that he is the most successful person in Hollywood at the moment, but his movies aren’t Hollywood. It feels like you’re making an indie. He’s actually a really alternative filmmaker. He just happens to have like a seven billion figure budget. [Laughs] I like to call him Hitchcock, but he blows things up.”

They just released your first official still, but we also got a ton of unofficial material from the fans hanging around the set. How does that make you feel? Is it stealing your thunder and is there any concern about revealing too much about that final product?
It’s disappointing. I think everyone feels a slight frustration with it because those stills so undercut the work that’s being done. No, no one’s nervous about it. I mean, honestly, like, wait till you see this movie. Chris is doing insane things in it. And it’s gonna be marvelous and it’s gonna be way beyond what anyone imagines that it could be. You can’t imagine the things that he’s doing, at least I couldn’t until I read the script and I was like, ‘You’re really? Okay, you’re going there!” And it’s Chris Nolan; even the picture that he released of me, that’s not everything. That’s like a tenth of what the catsuit is. And I’ve got to say, I find it frustrating and I know he finds it frustrating, but I also think that he’s having fun with it, kind of like spooning out secrets. He has a lot more control than you think.

Guess that shines some light on it, we probably will be seeing much more.

 

[Victarion]

the quote a lot of you have been waiting for

http://www.shockya.com/news/2011/08...graphers-on-the-set-of-the-dark-knight-rises/

Anne: even the picture that he released of me, that’s not everything. That’s like a tenth of what the catsuit is.

“I’m having a lot of fun working on Chris Nolan’s ‘Batman,’ the latest Batman movie. I’m having an absolute blast doing it, but it’s very big. The thing that’s wonderful about Chris is that he is the most successful person in Hollywood at the moment, but his movies aren’t Hollywood. It feels like you’re making an indie. He’s actually a really alternative filmmaker. He just happens to have like a seven billion figure budget. [Laughs] I like to call him Hitchcock, but he blows things up.”

They just released your first official still, but we also got a ton of unofficial material from the fans hanging around the set. How does that make you feel? Is it stealing your thunder and is there any concern about revealing too much about that final product?
It’s disappointing. I think everyone feels a slight frustration with it because those stills so undercut the work that’s being done. No, no one’s nervous about it. I mean, honestly, like, wait till you see this movie. Chris is doing insane things in it. And it’s gonna be marvelous and it’s gonna be way beyond what anyone imagines that it could be. You can’t imagine the things that he’s doing, at least I couldn’t until I read the script and I was like, ‘You’re really? Okay, you’re going there!” And it’s Chris Nolan; even the picture that he released of me, that’s not everything. That’s like a tenth of what the catsuit is. And I’ve got to say, I find it frustrating and I know he finds it frustrating, but I also think that he’s having fun with it, kind of like spooning out secrets. He has a lot more control than you think.

Methinks Chris wants the fanbase riled up over the pic of Catwoman that was released.

Then comes the trailer with Catwoman in full and all the fans swoon and sing hosannahs to him.

 

[Blue Sugar]

Nolan found it frustrating to have to release that rushed Selina picture. I understand him. But there was nothing else to do considering the huge amount of spy pics out there.

 

[kvz5]

The context of the two quotes are so different even if it's just a small difference in how it was worded. In the MTV one, it's 1/10th of what the suit can DO but in that ShockYa interview, it's 1/10th of what the suit IS. The former talks about the functionality but the latter implies the look. I'm assuming that both are direct quotes from Anne so it's a bit confusing. I don't think we can fully conclude that what she meant was the functionality or the look itself.

 

[KRIM]

The context of the two quotes are so different even if it's just a small difference in how it was worded. In the MTV one, it's 1/10th of what the suit can DO but in that ShockYa interview, it's 1/10th of what the suit IS. The former talks about the functionality but the latter implies the look. I'm assuming that both are direct quotes from Anne so it's a bit confusing. I don't think we can fully conclude that what she meant was the functionality or the look itself.

Yeah, looks like we're back to square one. Hopefully an inquisitive interviewer manages to steer a question in such a way that the whole matter can be far more clearer.

 

[Stringer]

Sounds a bit more rational to me that she's talking about a tenth of what it LOOKS like not what it can do. Seems like there's more aesthetic pieces missing from the costume than functions they could add to it.

 

[Knightwing]

I find it amusing that people are making such long, useless posts debating over a simple cowl.... one with CAT EARS at that. Nolan has proven himself capable of delivering on all levels when it comes to filmmaking, and you guys bickering over a mask is honestly actually making laugh right now. Oh, the stupidity. You want a grey and blue suit for Batman while we're at it? Tights instead of kevlar?

 

[KalMart]

I find it amusing that people are making such long, useless posts debating over a simple cowl.... one with CAT EARS at that. Nolan has proven himself capable of delivering on all levels when it comes to filmmaking, and you guys bickering over a mask is honestly actually making laugh right now. Oh, the stupidity. You want a grey and blue suit for Batman while we're at it? Tights instead of kevlar?

If you'd been here longer, you'd probably find it more par-the-course than amusing.

 

[TheVerbos]

I keep looking at the suit and I'm trying to care about the loss of cat ears and it's just not happening.

I can understand the initial dissapointment but carrying on this long and much is overwrought.

 

[Sith Scotti]

I find it amusing that people are making such long, useless posts debating over a simple cowl.... one with CAT EARS at that. Nolan has proven himself capable of delivering on all levels when it comes to filmmaking, and you guys bickering over a mask is honestly actually making laugh right now. Oh, the stupidity. You want a grey and blue suit for Batman while we're at it? Tights instead of kevlar?

Need I remind you of the reaction to Heath Ledger playing the Joker . Brokeback Joker rants galore . The internet brings out the insanity

 

[KalMart]

Sounds a bit more rational to me that she's talking about a tenth of what it LOOKS like not what it can do. Seems like there's more aesthetic pieces missing from the costume than functions they could add to it.

Agreed....we're not seeing the zippers, the velcro, the elastic inseams, the breathable inner lining that whisks away moisture, the chest support that lifts AND separates, the gelled inner soles, the hidden double-stitching, the reinforced calve area, the no-fold elastic cuffs, and the pockets inside the boots.

 

[Travesty]

The context of the two quotes are so different even if it's just a small difference in how it was worded. In the MTV one, it's 1/10th of what the suit can DO but in that ShockYa interview, it's 1/10th of what the suit IS. The former talks about the functionality but the latter implies the look. I'm assuming that both are direct quotes from Anne so it's a bit confusing. I don't think we can fully conclude that what she meant was the functionality or the look itself.

I think she's just talking about only being able to see a 1/10th of what the suit is capable of doing. I mean, just think about it, she's already in a full-on leather suit, and has goggles on. If that's just a 1/10th of the suit, she'll be wrapped over 8x.

 

[kvz5]

I think she's just talking about only being able to see a 1/10th of what the suit is capable of doing. I mean, just think about it, she's already in a full-on leather suit, and has goggles on. If that's just a 1/10th of the suit, she'll be wrapped over 8x.

Maybe she'll have jigsaw pieces all over her suit too.

I'm leaning towards the functionality too but if both are direct quotes from her then we don't really know what she really meant since the two quotes can mean different things.

 

[Blue Sugar]

Maybe it's both do and is? Tadaaa!