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It's clear you don't know much. Here, have some factinions:
1. In all likelihood the rights to FF revert this time next year exactly. Which means Fox is working on a very specific deadline. They don't have a year and a half, it doesn't work like that. They have a year to get this film into production or the rights revert.
2. It takes MANY MANY months to do a script and get it finalized. Joss began writing his Avengers 2 script last December and he didn't say it was finished, much less finalized, until just this past summer. Kinberg being brought in to do a rush job reworking of the script that is being basically described as nearly an overhaul, for a script that has been in the works since 2010, is NOT good. It will take him 2-3 months to get it finalized, if he gets it finalized at all. Which means the film probably won't go forward until January-February, at the earliest...and this would be a complete rush job.
3. What the above means is that they would have 7-8 months to immediately begin casting and get cameras rolling on a NEW movie, not a sequel, which means the casting process will (or SHOULD) be longer and more arduous, when films like this typically begin casting the main characters many months out before filming.
4. Even IF they do manage to get the cameras rolling by next summer, which would be right before the rights expire so they would have barely made it, post production time would surely push the movie back from its current release date, and it's questionable if they're even able to do that, and even if they are it would be suicide because of how packed that summer is.
5. All of this is even assuming they manage to come up with a script that's within the budget they're aiming for, which is surely less than $150m, and it's honestly very hard to think how they could make a FF film acceptable by today's standards with a budget like that, and I'm almost certain that's where they're having trouble with the script at. They don't want to make an expensive FF film because they don't think it's worth the risk or just plain don't want to take it, but it's extremely hard to write a GOOD FF movie that doesn't balloon into the high hundred millions.
6. What all this points to is that we're probably past the point where this would be a quality FF film no matter what. There are so many things pointing to this turning out a disaster. Fox is being cheap, they've had over 6 writers try and work on a script for the past FOUR YEARS, they're going to have to rush this into production even if they get it off the ground, and if they even are able to push the release date back to the summer of 2015 that would be suicide in and of itself.
And keep in mind, the ONLY reason they're making this movie in the first place is to keep the rights, so they're coming at it from the wrong place to begin with.
I was never one to use language like this, you can go back in the rights hope thread and see I was one of the more skeptical ones and wouldn't jump to conclusions about stuff like Trank not wanting to stay on or the film shaping up to be a disaster, because I didn't think we had enough to go on. But this latest move tells me A LOT about what's happening behind the scenes. And honestly I think this film is ****ed no matter what at this point. I literally see no good side to this. They're not even respecting Trank's vision and just going with what he did. And Trank was the only good sign this film had.
1. In all likelihood the rights to FF revert this time next year exactly. Which means Fox is working on a very specific deadline. They don't have a year and a half, it doesn't work like that. They have a year to get this film into production or the rights revert.
2. It takes MANY MANY months to do a script and get it finalized. Joss began writing his Avengers 2 script last December and he didn't say it was finished, much less finalized, until just this past summer. Kinberg being brought in to do a rush job reworking of the script that is being basically described as nearly an overhaul, for a script that has been in the works since 2010, is NOT good. It will take him 2-3 months to get it finalized, if he gets it finalized at all. Which means the film probably won't go forward until January-February, at the earliest...and this would be a complete rush job.
3. What the above means is that they would have 7-8 months to immediately begin casting and get cameras rolling on a NEW movie, not a sequel, which means the casting process will (or SHOULD) be longer and more arduous, when films like this typically begin casting the main characters many months out before filming.
4. Even IF they do manage to get the cameras rolling by next summer, which would be right before the rights expire so they would have barely made it, post production time would surely push the movie back from its current release date, and it's questionable if they're even able to do that, and even if they are it would be suicide because of how packed that summer is.
5. All of this is even assuming they manage to come up with a script that's within the budget they're aiming for, which is surely less than $150m, and it's honestly very hard to think how they could make a FF film acceptable by today's standards with a budget like that, and I'm almost certain that's where they're having trouble with the script at. They don't want to make an expensive FF film because they don't think it's worth the risk or just plain don't want to take it, but it's extremely hard to write a GOOD FF movie that doesn't balloon into the high hundred millions.
6. What all this points to is that we're probably past the point where this would be a quality FF film no matter what. There are so many things pointing to this turning out a disaster. Fox is being cheap, they've had over 6 writers try and work on a script for the past FOUR YEARS, they're going to have to rush this into production even if they get it off the ground, and if they even are able to push the release date back to the summer of 2015 that would be suicide in and of itself.
And keep in mind, the ONLY reason they're making this movie in the first place is to keep the rights, so they're coming at it from the wrong place to begin with.
I was never one to use language like this, you can go back in the rights hope thread and see I was one of the more skeptical ones and wouldn't jump to conclusions about stuff like Trank not wanting to stay on or the film shaping up to be a disaster, because I didn't think we had enough to go on. But this latest move tells me A LOT about what's happening behind the scenes. And honestly I think this film is ****ed no matter what at this point. I literally see no good side to this. They're not even respecting Trank's vision and just going with what he did. And Trank was the only good sign this film had.
