The Relationship Thread: Because Superhero Forums are Full of Sexperts! - - - - - - - - - - Part 29

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Not necessarily a no widow rule, but if he's only looking to marry a virgin, just throwing out a hypothetical of being with a woman who in theory was chaste until marriage, got married and was widowed. Would he have an issue with dating someone like that?
 
What I want to mention, is having those long term plans don't always work out the way you envision. And there's so many different scenarios that can happen.

This is the point I keep stressing. There is no fail-safe for marriage or one right way to ensure that is lasts.
 
Not necessarily a no widow rule, but if he's only looking to marry a virgin, just throwing out a hypothetical of being with a woman who in theory was chaste until marriage, got married and was widowed. Would he have an issue with dating someone like that?

That situation is different because she waited to have sex with her husband. Its not like she knew he would die prematurely that is something beyond her control. And if she did not have sex with anyone else until she got remarried that is fine. It's not like a situation where she felt like she HAD to sleep with every dude she ever dated like others who believe it is necessary. To put in simple, I just think sex is something shared in the context of marriage. Other people disagree and that's their opinion.
 
Good for you trying to get your weight down spidey2. Don't put so much pressure on yourself to be in a relationship. It'll come in time if you put yourself out there. Being in a relationship cures loneliness, but you can say goodbye to your alone time and doing things your way. Relationships are good and bad. Enjoy your time by yourself. Keep working on building you and women will want in.

While I have had 26 years of alone time lol. Its just hard because I fell lonely a lot and really only have a few friends so it just gets old when you almost always do stuff by your self no matter if it is playing video game, watching a movie or going to the movie or going out to dinner or going to the park ect. Also I here that people get married latter then they used to yet for about 2 years ever one I know my age or a few years older or younger is getting married. Its like ever one I know is getting married between 22-28 and even some having kids. I thought people didn't get married in till like 30 now lol.
 
There's also the matter of sexual compatibility. It's a given that you should know everything there is to know about someone before you marry him or her. That's the only way to know if you're truly compatible. Part of that includes knowing what they're like in bed. If you marry someone, and then find out that, between the sheets, you two are DEFINITELY not a match for one another, that is a huge strain on a relationship. A healthy sex life is a key component to any successful, long term relationship. When there is trouble in that area, that's when you see people stepping outside the bounds of their relationship to "get what they need".

Highly disagree. My parents been married for twenty six years and they didn't have sex until they were married. Also some of my friends who are in their mid to late twenty's also waited until marriage before having sex. I don't ask about their sex lives, but from what they have hinted at among friends they seem to have a good one. Again, relationships are much more than sex. I can date a girl and NOT have sex with her to figure out if I want to continue dating her/ marry her. If I am physically and emotionally attracted to her the sex will be good.
 
I think I found my future wife browsing plentyoffish.com:oldrazz:

Don't have a profile myself, I just occasionally search around, see who's out there. But this girl, to me, seemed like a really laid back person.
 
It's hard to say what someone's sexual behavior is going to be until they have sex.

You can wait until you get married and what happens if the sex isn't good for one of the partners. What if it doesn't get better?

Again, I'm not advocating sex before marriage or waiting for sex. I'm just stating the chance that 2 people regardless of how much they love each other may not be sexual compatible. It's like being compatible personality wise. If it's not there, they may be nothing you can do.

And before you say, there's more to marriage/love than just sex. There is, but to say that intimacy is not an important aspect of relationships unless you're asexual is naive.
 
Communication is by far the most important thing when it comes to sex, but so is similar levels of open-mindedness. If one person has a particular kink or wants to try something new and the other is like, "NOPE" then there will be an issue. And if one person has a higher sex drive than another, that can be a serious issue too.

A friend of mine used to look for sex on Craigslist and some guys she did it with were married. She told me a lot of those men genuinely loved their wives and didn't want to leave the relationship, but they had much higher sex drives and were forced to go elsewhere for it. They didn't want to force their wives to have sex with them, but they had to expend their sexual energy elsewhere. That's a hard situation to be in, and a good example of how sexual compatibility can be more difficult than we take it to be.

It feels easy with my husband, but that's because we communicate, we have similar sex drives and similar open-ness to try new things. Nobody's yearning for anything more.
 
Also, post-coital cuddling is the best kind of cuddling. Just saying. :awesome:
 
Highly disagree. My parents been married for twenty six years and they didn't have sex until they were married. Also some of my friends who are in their mid to late twenty's also waited until marriage before having sex. I don't ask about their sex lives, but from what they have hinted at among friends they seem to have a good one. Again, relationships are much more than sex. I can date a girl and NOT have sex with her to figure out if I want to continue dating her/ marry her. If I am physically and emotionally attracted to her the sex will be good.

Spoken like someone who's never actually had it. I say that without a single desire to insult you, because you shouldn't take it as an insult. Relationships are more than sex, but sex is a huge part of a long-term relationship. It's a key component to intimacy, and without that relationships stagnate and fall apart, unless the two people involved are completely asexual. And no, being attracted to someone is not enough to make the sex between you good. Chemistry and compatibility are a real thing, and can't be forced. You won't truly know about a person until you have it. If you choose to wait, that's absolutely your call, but it's basically leaving everything up to chance on wedding night. Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't. But if it doesn't, then you're in a pickle.
 
Spoken like someone who's never actually had it. I say that without a single desire to insult you, because you shouldn't take it as an insult. Relationships are more than sex, but sex is a huge part of a long-term relationship. It's a key component to intimacy, and without that relationships stagnate and fall apart, unless the two people involved are completely asexual. And no, being attracted to someone is not enough to make the sex between you good. Chemistry and compatibility are a real thing, and can't be forced. You won't truly know about a person until you have it. If you choose to wait, that's absolutely your call, but it's basically leaving everything up to chance on wedding night. Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't. But if it doesn't, then you're in a pickle.

Exactly. There are no guarantees and sexual incompatibility absolutely is a relationship killer. Who wants to be stuck having unfulfilling sex for the rest of their life?
 
Realizing how selfish and cold I can be I decided to text her as a friend. If I've truly moved on it's no big deal. We chatted and she said there's an invitation to visit whenever I'd like. I can't see myself ever driving 8hrs. Ever. I've working on not being so selfish. I worked over 60 hrs last week, but went to help my family do construction on a house on my off day.
 
Also, post-coital cuddling is the best kind of cuddling. Just saying. :awesome:

That's because of the oxytocin released apparently:

http://www.womenshealthmag.com/sex-and-relationships/the-benefits-of-cuddling-after-sex


Doing This One Thing Right After Sex Can Improve Your Relationship


Who isn't tired of the relationship cliché that women love spooning after sex while men prefer passing the eff out? But research out of the University of Toronto Mississauga shows that a little post-nooky snuggle sesh can help improve your relationship.

The study, published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, shows that "kissing, caressing, and loving talk" after intercourse are all associated with greater sexual and relationship satisfaction.

Kat Van Kirk, Ph.D., a licensed marriage and sex therapist, says that oxytocin is likely the main driver behind this phenomenon. In fact, many people refer to oxytocin as the "love hormone"; it's released as a result of pleasurable physical contact and has been shown to increase bonding.

Staying physically close after sex can also act as a form of nonverbal communication. "It can help you relax, inhibit any sensations of pain—emotional or physical—and help reinforce to your partner that you are invested and committed to them," says Van Kirk.

Other benefits include the simple fact that closeness can lead to more sex. "Cuddling can help keep you aroused for another roll in the hay," says Van Kirk.

Interestingly, parents in the study gained the most from post-romp closeness, and women also seem to have benefited to a greater extent (although men reported improved relationships and sex lives, too). So how much time exactly should you devote to post-coital cuddling? Aim for more than 15 minutes—that's what the people in the study who said they were happiest with their relationships did.
 
Spoken like someone who's never actually had it. I say that without a single desire to insult you, because you shouldn't take it as an insult. Relationships are more than sex, but sex is a huge part of a long-term relationship. It's a key component to intimacy, and without that relationships stagnate and fall apart, unless the two people involved are completely asexual. And no, being attracted to someone is not enough to make the sex between you good. Chemistry and compatibility are a real thing, and can't be forced. You won't truly know about a person until you have it. If you choose to wait, that's absolutely your call, but it's basically leaving everything up to chance on wedding night. Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't. But if it doesn't, then you're in a pickle.

Like I said that's all well and good if you feel you need to have sex with every single person you date. That's how you choose to life your life more power to you. I personally don't feel it's needed. Like I said I have a LARGE of number of people in my personal life who have waited until marriage for sex and none walked around saying it was horrible or they wish they done it before hand. And considering its like or 12 people, I doubt they all got lucky. Besides, I doubt anyone decent would call for a divorce if their partner isn't pulling some freaky porn star moves on their wedding night.
 
But it's not about porn star moves. :huh:

If you can acknowledge that there is such thing as personality compatibility, there is such a thing as sexual compatibility. And it's not like stuff you see in a porno.

Maybe if both partners are inexperienced, they won't know better at first. But if they start not looking forward to sex because it does nothing for them. What if after you wait 3 years, she's just not into sex as much as you want to be and that doesn't really change. That's an example of incompatibility.
 
So my relationship is over. I'm starting to come to terms with it. I was trying to keep things alive but its clear I'm the only one trying, and I'm looking more for closure than love at this point.

Today, my girlfriend was supposed to see me after work and we had plans for some alone time since my mom was going to be away for a few hours. But right when my girlfriend was going to leave her house, she said her dog was throwing up blood. Now the fact that this type of thing always seems to happen to her at the last minute when we have plans, I grew curious. When she was at the vet, I asked about the dog and I asked to see a pic of her, but she started dodging it and got very defensive.

Now while I don't suspect her of cheating, I can't help but feel like the way she was blowing up on me for asking was because she was hiding something. She finally sent me a pic an hour later when she "got home" from the vet, but she covered up the date of the medication. At this point, I needed to be convinced that she wasn't lying but she wouldn't budge and she wouldn't appease. Instead, she's mad at me for not trusting her, when she has a history of lying to everyone, and I've seen her lie to people, so I know what signs to look for because she's not a great liar at that.

But yeah, now she's not talking to me, and I tried to get her best friend to help us, but it seems clear that she's covering for her, so now I feel like her ex did last year when she was sleeping with me behind his back.
 
This may sound very cynical but there is a saying, "if they do it with you, they'll do it to you."
 
This may sound very cynical but there is a saying, "if they do it with you, they'll do it to you."
Unfortunately true, a vast majority of the time.

I mean, even beyond the cheating thing, the fact that you knew she lies to get out of trouble and thinks nothing of it...she just can't be trusted. By anyone. Let alone someone in a relationship with them.
 
I really like this chick I started talking to. Not really sure what we are right now but I'm just taking it slow. She's cute but what really gets me is she is super cool and intelligent. I've never met a girl that I have connected with like this before which is more than a physical thing. We talked and played Magic till 5 am and then I crashed on her couch. She is a psych major and that is something that has always interested me. Right now I wouldn't say we are dating or anything but just getting to know each other which is cool and new to me. She is early in sobriety so I'm giving her space but still there for her. This is all kind of new for me, but we seem to be connecting really well. We have lots of stuff in common. She likes nerd stuff and is also a big Bucs fan like me. I'm interested to see where this goes
 
Like I said that's all well and good if you feel you need to have sex with every single person you date. That's how you choose to life your life more power to you. I personally don't feel it's needed. Like I said I have a LARGE of number of people in my personal life who have waited until marriage for sex and none walked around saying it was horrible or they wish they done it before hand. And considering its like or 12 people, I doubt they all got lucky. Besides, I doubt anyone decent would call for a divorce if their partner isn't pulling some freaky porn star moves on their wedding night.

Point out in any of my posts where I said to have sex with every person you date? Because I never said that. You seem to have a very naive, black-and-white view of sex. It's either people are completely chaste, or they're running up a tally of sex partners in the triple digits. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground to you. Every post I've made has referenced LONG-TERM relationships. As in, you've been with the person for a while. Not jumping into bed on the first date.

Also, the fact that you think I meant "porn star" moves kinda proves my point. You have a fundamental lack of understanding about what sex is. When I say "sexual compatibility", I don't mean "rock her world like a bouncy castle inside an earthquake". I, and others in this thread, have explained that it means that you two have compatible desires towards sex. That means comparable sex drives, comparable opinions on sex, and just an overall sense of chemistry. Chemistry is difficult to explain. It's the feeling that what is happening is "right". And you don't get that feeling until you do it. Or you do it, and you find out there's no chemistry whatsoever. Some of this you can discuss beforehand. But a big part of it is learning about each other during the act. No, by no means am I saying that you have to do any of this. If you want to save it until marriage, that's entirely your choice. All the power to you. But I will say that your posts here reveal a lack of basic understanding of the emotional impacts of sex. Yes, promiscuity can cause negative emotional effects too. But so can a poor sex life in a committed relationship. In this area, what you're looking for is a healthy, balanced relationship. To simply say "everything will work out fine once we're married" is kinda naive. Sure, it DOES work. A lot of times it does. But it absolutely isn't a guarantee.
 
But ya know, if ShadowBoxer wants to continue generalizing entire swaths of people by an arbitrary characteristic and put people into a box, that's up to him. Not like I or any of my peers are gonna date a guy like that.
 
Hopeful dreamer, Anita18,

I have added a few more jokes and situational photos to my profile, we'll see what happens. Thank you for the comments.
 
Point out in any of my posts where I said to have sex with every person you date? Because I never said that. You seem to have a very naive, black-and-white view of sex. It's either people are completely chaste, or they're running up a tally of sex partners in the triple digits. There doesn't seem to be a middle ground to you. Every post I've made has referenced LONG-TERM relationships. As in, you've been with the person for a while. Not jumping into bed on the first date.

Also, the fact that you think I meant "porn star" moves kinda proves my point. You have a fundamental lack of understanding about what sex is. When I say "sexual compatibility", I don't mean "rock her world like a bouncy castle inside an earthquake". I, and others in this thread, have explained that it means that you two have compatible desires towards sex. That means comparable sex drives, comparable opinions on sex, and just an overall sense of chemistry. Chemistry is difficult to explain. It's the feeling that what is happening is "right". And you don't get that feeling until you do it. Or you do it, and you find out there's no chemistry whatsoever. Some of this you can discuss beforehand. But a big part of it is learning about each other during the act. No, by no means am I saying that you have to do any of this. If you want to save it until marriage, that's entirely your choice. All the power to you. But I will say that your posts here reveal a lack of basic understanding of the emotional impacts of sex. Yes, promiscuity can cause negative emotional effects too. But so can a poor sex life in a committed relationship. In this area, what you're looking for is a healthy, balanced relationship. To simply say "everything will work out fine once we're married" is kinda naive. Sure, it DOES work. A lot of times it does. But it absolutely isn't a guarantee.

I am fully aware of sexual compatibility as it most people. My statement is you don't HAVE to have sex with someone to know if your compatible or not regardless of your dating long term or short term. A lot of you all say other wise and that it is hence the reason some have sexual partner numbers up past double digits. Sexual compatibility is both partners desired frequency, excitement, and kinkyness. You can simply have a converstation with this person ( no matter how uncomfortable it is) and find out if you match, no sex required. All I am saying is that if you really connect and match with someone in many other areas like personality, hobbies, life goals etc, it's highly unlikely you will be a mismatch in the bedroom.
 
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I am fully aware of sexual compatibility as it most people. My statement is you don't HAVE to have sex with someone to know if your compatible or not regardless of your dating long term or short term. A lot of you all say other wise and that it is hence the reason some have sexual partner numbers up past double digits. Sexual compatibility is both partners desired frequency, excitement, and kinkyness. You can simply have a decision with this person ( no matter how uncomfortable it is) and find out if you match, no sex required. All I am saying is that if you really connect and match with someone in many other areas like personality, hobbies, life goals etc, it's highly unlikely you will be a mismatch in the bedroom.

You are staggeringly naive. My ex-wife and I on paper are the perfect couple. Same interests, same values, same sense of humor, same tastes. We were not sexually compatible. There were other issues too, but that only furthers my point. We should have worked but all those things in common and it DID NOT MATTER.
 
Unfortunately true, a vast majority of the time.

I mean, even beyond the cheating thing, the fact that you knew she lies to get out of trouble and thinks nothing of it...she just can't be trusted. By anyone. Let alone someone in a relationship with them.
The thing that stops me from running right away is that I see a reason why she is acting like this. I almost feel like it's more genetic than personality. She's not mean-spirited, she just acts like that because she feels backed into a corner.

I mean, regardless she's wrong and hasn't handled anything the right way, and if she does find success, it's because someone else is doing the heavy lifting for her, but I kinda feel bad for her and I want to be there for her as she gets helps. I just don't think that's an option to her.
 
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